[GeoNetwork-devel] Last chance before cancelling: OSGeoHacking event in a monastry near Bolsena (Italy)!?

Hi Miguel,
No, the event is not yet closed. In fact, there’s renewed interest after my previous email :slight_smile:

So to all: If the event will be on, it will be in the week of 16-20 June since that has most people confirmed until now. I will remove the other options.
Don’t hesitate to still sign up quickly.

Cheers,
Jeroen

On Feb 13, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Miguel Montesinos wrote:

I agree with “there are tons of companies which are exploiting the GFOSS world itself, without giving anything or very little in return”

But I disagree with

There are also other companies that strongly believe that an OS

developer should ask for less money than any other non OS

developers, or no money at all, because "he does that for the

community".

Maybe people not working with OS may think that, but I think that people with some experience with OS thinks the opposite way. You need to have high-skilled abilities to understand core products in order to being able to adapt them, and that implies >= money than just using closed APIs.

Jeroen, is the event definitely closed? Two collegues from Prodevelop wanted to assist, but they haven´t signed in the wiki.

Miguel


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Subject: Re: [Gfoss] [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Last chance before

cancelling: OSGeoHacking event in a monastry near Bolsena (Italy)!?

From my limited experience I can say that the number of GFOSS

developers is not small, not at all; the problem is that GFOSS

developers usually are quiet because they spend all the time

they have coding GFOSS software hence talking about what they

do is often considered a waste time (I am not supporting this

statement but that’s what I have heard often…). I guess that,

to some extent, this is true for any software developer…

IMHO, the limiting factor of the GFOSS is that there are tons

of companies which are exploiting the GFOSS world itself,

without giving anything or very little in return (IMHO saying

“we use GFOSS software so we support it” is not the best form

of support, but then again, it’s a personal opinion). There

are also other companies that strongly believe that an OS

developer should ask for less money than any other non OS

developers, or no money at all, because "he does that for the

community".

I think that the ongoing discussion on Service Provider

Prioritization should try to address these issues somehow.

Simone.

On Feb 12, 2008 6:31 PM, Paolo Cavallini <cavallini@…356…> wrote:

Simone Giannecchini ha scritto:

Could you please explain what you mean to a “poor” OS developer?

My feeling is that the number of available developers is small, and

cannot be easily raised by reasonable amounts of money (ok, with 12

MEUR that’s different…). I think there’s an "availability

pit": you

can find some productive developers willing to work for free/limited

additional resources/based on their own resources, you can also find

(many?) productive developers if you have lots of money, but in the

middle there is a gap, so transition is not smooth.

It would be nice to model all this in a more formal way (I’m a

behavioural ecologist, after all…), but now these are just

thoughts,

less than hypotheses.

All the best.

pc

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Jeroen Ticheler wrote:

Hi Miguel,
No, the event is not yet closed. In fact, there's renewed interest after my previous email :slight_smile:

So to all: If the event will be on, it will be in the week of *16-20 June *since that has most people confirmed until now. I will remove the other options.

Jeroen,

Thanks. This is important information.
Now, I'm sure I won't be able to attend, unfortunately.
I'm attending another event in Poland that will occur at the same time.
So, I'm removing myself from the list.

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2008/2/13, Mateusz Loskot <mateusz@anonymised.com>:

Jeroen Ticheler wrote:
> Hi Miguel,
> No, the event is not yet closed. In fact, there's renewed interest after
> my previous email :slight_smile:
>
> So to all: If the event will be on, it will be in the week of *16-20
> June *since that has most people confirmed until now. I will remove the
> other options.

Jeroen,

Hi,

I'm talking on behalf of Victor Olaya from SEXTANTE project[1] (he has
promised me to join the list).

He has confirmed in the wiki page his attendance to the hacking week
so, if tentative people confirm, you are 20!

Congratulations Jeroen for the effort.

[1] http://www.sextantegis.com
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Hi all,

since I would like to participate in the hacking week in Bolsena I put
my name on the wiki page. I can confirm my attendance for now.

Best regards, Martin Landa

2008/2/18, Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas <xurxosanz@anonymised.com>:

I'm talking on behalf of Victor Olaya from SEXTANTE project[1] (he has
promised me to join the list).

He has confirmed in the wiki page his attendance to the hacking week
so, if tentative people confirm, you are 20!

Congratulations Jeroen for the effort.

[1] http://www.sextantegis.com
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