[GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

tony.hunter · July 4, 2008, 7:34am

Hi Oscar,

I'm interested in doing the same type of operation.
However the methods I'm using at the moment is by using parentIdentifier as
the link to a series of metadata records.

This is a bit clunky and I'm implementing it at the database level by
including a separate column in the metadata table called parent_id. I can
then easily find all metadata records that are in the series.

This is just a work around that hopefully will be addressed more elegantly in
the future.

Tony Hunter
GIS Professional - Asia Pacific (GISP - Asia Pacific)
Risk & Impact Analysis Group
Geospatial & Earth Monitoring Division
Geoscience Australia
GPO Box 378, Canberra, ACT 2601, Australia
( +61 2 62499362 Fax: +61 2 62499911
x Tony.Hunter@anonymised.com
Internet: http://www.ga.gov.au

-----Original Message-----
From: geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Oscar
Gomez
Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 4:49 PM
To: Hockaday John
Cc: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi John,

It's ok, I was just wondering whether it was possible or not.

So thank you for your answer, it saved a lot of time of searching, reading,
and testing.

Best,

Oscar

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:51 AM, <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Oscar,

Officially "no" but it looks like there is a need in the revised ISO 19115
metadata standard for something like "metadataFileIdentifier" in the
"LI_Source" that could have an "xlink" attribute to link to the full
metadata
record.

Sorry I can't give you a "yes".

John

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On
> Behalf Of Oscar Gomez
> Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:05 PM
> To: Geonetwork Users
> Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets
>
>
> Hi!
>
> I have one question. With ISO19139, under lineage, you can
> specify that for
> creating a dataset, other datasets as "source" have been used.
>
> If the "source" metadata would already exist in GeoNetwork,
> is there any
> chance to point (and hyperlink) to the source dataset from the current
> metadata? I would like to be able to "trace upstream" to the original
> datasets.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Oscar
> European Commission, JRC
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Oscar_Gomez · July 4, 2008, 7:49am

Hi Tony,

Thank you for the tip. For me that workaround you're implementing will
definitely work. I think it's the only way through.

Once you have implemented it at database level, do you have implemented
something at presentation level (I mean, on the web interface) for being
able to navigate from one metadata to his parent (or derived) dataset(s)?

Best Regards,

Oscar

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On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM, <Tony.Hunter@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Oscar,

I'm interested in doing the same type of operation.
However the methods I'm using at the moment is by using parentIdentifier as
the link to a series of metadata records.

This is a bit clunky and I'm implementing it at the database level by
including a separate column in the metadata table called parent_id. I can
then easily find all metadata records that are in the series.

This is just a work around that hopefully will be addressed more elegantly
in
the future.

Tony Hunter
GIS Professional - Asia Pacific (GISP - Asia Pacific)
Risk & Impact Analysis Group
Geospatial & Earth Monitoring Division
Geoscience Australia
GPO Box 378, Canberra, ACT 2601, Australia
( +61 2 62499362 Fax: +61 2 62499911
x Tony.Hunter@anonymised.com
Internet: http://www.ga.gov.au

-----Original Message-----
From: geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
[mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Oscar
Gomez
Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 4:49 PM
To: Hockaday John
Cc: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Hi John,

It's ok, I was just wondering whether it was possible or not.

So thank you for your answer, it saved a lot of time of searching, reading,
and testing.

Best,

Oscar

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:51 AM, <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com> wrote:

> Hi Oscar,
>
> Officially "no" but it looks like there is a need in the revised ISO
19115
> metadata standard for something like "metadataFileIdentifier" in the
> "LI_Source" that could have an "xlink" attribute to link to the full
> metadata
> record.
>
> Sorry I can't give you a "yes".
>
>
> John
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
> > [mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On
> > Behalf Of Oscar Gomez
> > Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:05 PM
> > To: Geonetwork Users
> > Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have one question. With ISO19139, under lineage, you can
> > specify that for
> > creating a dataset, other datasets as "source" have been used.
> >
> > If the "source" metadata would already exist in GeoNetwork,
> > is there any
> > chance to point (and hyperlink) to the source dataset from the current
> > metadata? I would like to be able to "trace upstream" to the original
> > datasets.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Oscar
> > European Commission, JRC
> > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > -----------
> > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW!
> > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project,
> > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness
> > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08
> > _______________________________________________
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> > GeoNetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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> > GeoNetwork OpenSource is maintained at
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/geonetwork
> >
>
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Francois-Xavier_Prun · July 4, 2008, 7:58am

Hi Tony and Oscar,

On ven, 2008-07-04 at 09:49 +0200, Oscar Gomez wrote:

Hi Tony,

Thank you for the tip. For me that workaround you're implementing will
definitely work. I think it's the only way through.

we are also working on managing parent/child relationship in GeoNetwork.

What has been made so far:
* in the editor, added a popup to the parentIdentifier field in order
to do a search in the local catalogue and set the parentIdentifier to
the uuid of the selected record.
* in the metadata view, added an hyperlink to go to the metadata of the
parent (using the uuid)
* in the index, allow search on parentIdentifier in order to search for
child
* in the search results, added a button to search for child of each
records.

This is still under development but will be able to share this in the
comming weeks.

Tony, why did you add a column to the table ?

Ciao. Francois

Once you have implemented it at database level, do you have implemented
something at presentation level (I mean, on the web interface) for being
able to navigate from one metadata to his parent (or derived) dataset(s)?

Best Regards,

Oscar

*
*****************************************************************************************************************************
*

*Oscar GOMEZ PRIETO*

*Joint Research Centre
European Commmission *

*Institute for Environment and Sustainability
Rural, Water and Ecosystem Resources Unit *

*Building 26A Office nº132 TP 262
Via Enrico Fermi 2749
I-21027, ISPRA(VA) Italy

Tel. **+39 - 03.32.78.38.24
E-mail: **oscar.gomez@anonymised.com* <oscar.gomez@anonymised.com>*
Unit Web site: **http://agrienv.jrc.it/* <blocked::http://agrienv.jrc.it/>\*
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On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM, <Tony.Hunter@anonymised.com> wrote:

> Hi Oscar,
>
> I'm interested in doing the same type of operation.
> However the methods I'm using at the moment is by using parentIdentifier as
> the link to a series of metadata records.
>
> This is a bit clunky and I'm implementing it at the database level by
> including a separate column in the metadata table called parent_id. I can
> then easily find all metadata records that are in the series.
>
> This is just a work around that hopefully will be addressed more elegantly
> in
> the future.
>
> Tony Hunter
> GIS Professional - Asia Pacific (GISP - Asia Pacific)
> Risk & Impact Analysis Group
> Geospatial & Earth Monitoring Division
> Geoscience Australia
> GPO Box 378, Canberra, ACT 2601, Australia
> ( +61 2 62499362 Fax: +61 2 62499911
> x Tony.Hunter@anonymised.com
> Internet: http://www.ga.gov.au
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Oscar
> Gomez
> Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 4:49 PM
> To: Hockaday John
> Cc: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Hi John,
>
> It's ok, I was just wondering whether it was possible or not.
>
> So thank you for your answer, it saved a lot of time of searching, reading,
> and testing.
>
> Best,
>
> Oscar
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:51 AM, <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Oscar,
> >
> > Officially "no" but it looks like there is a need in the revised ISO
> 19115
> > metadata standard for something like "metadataFileIdentifier" in the
> > "LI_Source" that could have an "xlink" attribute to link to the full
> > metadata
> > record.
> >
> > Sorry I can't give you a "yes".
> >
> >
> > John
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > [mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On
> > > Behalf Of Oscar Gomez
> > > Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:05 PM
> > > To: Geonetwork Users
> > > Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > I have one question. With ISO19139, under lineage, you can
> > > specify that for
> > > creating a dataset, other datasets as "source" have been used.
> > >
> > > If the "source" metadata would already exist in GeoNetwork,
> > > is there any
> > > chance to point (and hyperlink) to the source dataset from the current
> > > metadata? I would like to be able to "trace upstream" to the original
> > > datasets.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > >
> > > Oscar
> > > European Commission, JRC
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > -----------
> > > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW!
> > > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source project,
> > > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic lameness
> > > and boredom. Vote Now at http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > GeoNetwork-users mailing list
> > > GeoNetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geonetwork-users
> > > GeoNetwork OpenSource is maintained at
> > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/geonetwork
> > >
> >
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Oscar_Gomez · July 4, 2008, 8:06am

Hi Francois,

I'll be more than happy if you can share. Thanks in advance for it.

Ciao,

Oscar

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Francois-Xavier Prunayre <
francois-xavier.prunayre@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Tony and Oscar,

On ven, 2008-07-04 at 09:49 +0200, Oscar Gomez wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> Thank you for the tip. For me that workaround you're implementing will
> definitely work. I think it's the only way through.
we are also working on managing parent/child relationship in GeoNetwork.

What has been made so far:
* in the editor, added a popup to the parentIdentifier field in order
to do a search in the local catalogue and set the parentIdentifier to
the uuid of the selected record.
* in the metadata view, added an hyperlink to go to the metadata of the
parent (using the uuid)
* in the index, allow search on parentIdentifier in order to search for
child
* in the search results, added a button to search for child of each
records.

This is still under development but will be able to share this in the
comming weeks.

Tony, why did you add a column to the table ?

Ciao. Francois

>
> Once you have implemented it at database level, do you have implemented
> something at presentation level (I mean, on the web interface) for being
> able to navigate from one metadata to his parent (or derived) dataset(s)?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Oscar
>
>
> *
>
*****************************************************************************************************************************
> *
>
> *Oscar GOMEZ PRIETO*
>
> *Joint Research Centre
> European Commmission *
>
> *Institute for Environment and Sustainability
> Rural, Water and Ecosystem Resources Unit *
>
> *Building 26A Office nº132 TP 262
> Via Enrico Fermi 2749
> I-21027, ISPRA(VA) Italy
>
> Tel. **+39 - 03.32.78.38.24
> E-mail: **oscar.gomez@anonymised.com* <oscar.gomez@anonymised.com>*
> Unit Web site: **http://agrienv.jrc.it/* <blocked::
http://agrienv.jrc.it/>\*
> ***
>
> *DISCLAIMER:** The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may
> not in any circumstances
> be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission.*
>
> *P** ** **Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail***
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:34 AM, <Tony.Hunter@anonymised.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Oscar,
> >
> > I'm interested in doing the same type of operation.
> > However the methods I'm using at the moment is by using
parentIdentifier as
> > the link to a series of metadata records.
> >
> > This is a bit clunky and I'm implementing it at the database level by
> > including a separate column in the metadata table called parent_id. I
can
> > then easily find all metadata records that are in the series.
> >
> > This is just a work around that hopefully will be addressed more
elegantly
> > in
> > the future.
> >
> > Tony Hunter
> > GIS Professional - Asia Pacific (GISP - Asia Pacific)
> > Risk & Impact Analysis Group
> > Geospatial & Earth Monitoring Division
> > Geoscience Australia
> > GPO Box 378, Canberra, ACT 2601, Australia
> > ( +61 2 62499362 Fax: +61 2 62499911
> > x Tony.Hunter@anonymised.com
> > Internet: http://www.ga.gov.au
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
> > [mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of
Oscar
> > Gomez
> > Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 4:49 PM
> > To: Hockaday John
> > Cc: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: Re: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > It's ok, I was just wondering whether it was possible or not.
> >
> > So thank you for your answer, it saved a lot of time of searching,
reading,
> > and testing.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Oscar
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 1:51 AM, <John.Hockaday@anonymised.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Oscar,
> > >
> > > Officially "no" but it looks like there is a need in the revised ISO
> > 19115
> > > metadata standard for something like "metadataFileIdentifier" in the
> > > "LI_Source" that could have an "xlink" attribute to link to the full
> > > metadata
> > > record.
> > >
> > > Sorry I can't give you a "yes".
> > >
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > > [mailto:geonetwork-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On
> > > > Behalf Of Oscar Gomez
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 3 July 2008 11:05 PM
> > > > To: Geonetwork Users
> > > > Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] Ancilliary datasets
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > I have one question. With ISO19139, under lineage, you can
> > > > specify that for
> > > > creating a dataset, other datasets as "source" have been used.
> > > >
> > > > If the "source" metadata would already exist in GeoNetwork,
> > > > is there any
> > > > chance to point (and hyperlink) to the source dataset from the
current
> > > > metadata? I would like to be able to "trace upstream" to the
original
> > > > datasets.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > >
> > > > Oscar
> > > > European Commission, JRC
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > -----------
> > > > Sponsored by: SourceForge.net Community Choice Awards: VOTE NOW!
> > > > Studies have shown that voting for your favorite open source
project,
> > > > along with a healthy diet, reduces your potential for chronic
lameness
> > > > and boredom. Vote Now at
http://www.sourceforge.net/community/cca08
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > GeoNetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
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> > > > GeoNetwork OpenSource is maintained at
> > > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/geonetwork
> > > >
> > >
> >
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