Hi,
Please could anyone help me with the following questions:-
1) How to add user comments to metadata in Geonetwork?
2) And how to maintain the history of these comments?
Kind Regards,
Saher
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Saher,
The latest trunk versions of GeoNetwork include a "metadata status". This
status tracking also includes comments. I have used this in a recent project
to provide a sort of audit trail on the metadata. Because all status changes
are logged in a history and because comments can be added at anytime by an
editor without changing the status, I could build an interface that
displayed a sort of running history with comments for each metadata record
entered in the system. However, because it is in the edit interface, only
editors could add comments.
Does this match your needs? Or would you like something that would allow the
public to add comments?
Cheers,
Byron Cochrane
LISAsoft
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Hi Byron,
Thank you for the quick reply.
I want the public to add comments.
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Saher
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Hi Byron,
I want the public to add comments.
Please any idea how to do this?
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Saher
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Hi Byron,
I want the public to add comments.
Please any idea how to do this?
Kind Regards,
Saher
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Saher,
The latest trunk versions of GeoNetwork include a "metadata status". This status tracking also includes comments. I have used this in a recent project to provide a sort of audit trail on the metadata. Because all status changes are logged in a history and because comments can be added at anytime by an editor without changing the status, I could build an interface that displayed a sort of running history with comments for each metadata record entered in the system. However, because it is in the edit interface, only editors could add comments.
Does this match your needs? Or would you like something that would allow the public to add comments?
Cheers,
Byron Cochrane
LISAsoft
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Currently in GeoNetwork, the only way I can think that the public can give
feedback is in the rating system. But this does not come close to providing
what you are looking for. I think this would require some enhancement.
Perhaps a comment field could be attached to the ratings dropdown that
populates a comments table for that metadata. Submit a enhancement ticket
for it. I think it is a good idea. Get a little crowd sourcing into
GeoNetwork.
Cheers,
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I agree its good to have feedback, particularly if its related to providing information of identified errors related to the metadata.
However, I don't know whether its necessary to complicate the software to provide a full feedback module where someone can simply identify the 'Point of Contact' in the metadata and email them, or simply use the feedback form already in place if its a problem relating to the catalog representation or display of the metadata.
Even the rating system seems pointless to me. What are they rating - the data, the metadata, based upon what values? The data may be of a certain quality, but that level of quality may or may not be adequate for a particular project.
Maybe the data can rate itself - The summary results could show measurement accuracy, spatial accuracy, temporal accuracy, scale, completeness etc. And it would be good to be able to search or filter against these.
[sorry - I don't know whether this list is more for Q&A or for discussion]
Richard (Abe) Coughlin
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On 8/9/2012 10:06 AM, ByronCinNZ wrote:
Currently in GeoNetwork, the only way I can think that the public can give
feedback is in the rating system. But this does not come close to providing
what you are looking for. I think this would require some enhancement.
Perhaps a comment field could be attached to the ratings dropdown that
populates a comments table for that metadata. Submit a enhancement ticket
for it. I think it is a good idea. Get a little crowd sourcing into
GeoNetwork.Cheers,
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hi Richard,
you're very welcome to use this list as a forum for discussions,
brainstorming, venting .. I think it is most valuable to get ideas from
GeoNetwork users out here, the more the better.
I think some widely-used metadata standards contain sections where the
quality of the data can be described. Of course this is quite something
else than having a facility for users to give public feedback. Also, you
have a good point about differentiating with the quality of the *meta*data
-- that is not addressed by that. The existing rating system, as you hint,
is more of like anonymous Like-button, and doesn't make clear what that is
really about.
My 2¢,
kind regards
Heikki Doeleman
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Richard (Abe) Coughlin <rac88@anonymised.com>wrote:
I agree its good to have feedback, particularly if its related to
providing information of identified errors related to the metadata.However, I don't know whether its necessary to complicate the software
to provide a full feedback module where someone can simply identify the
'Point of Contact' in the metadata and email them, or simply use the
feedback form already in place if its a problem relating to the catalog
representation or display of the metadata.Even the rating system seems pointless to me. What are they rating - the
data, the metadata, based upon what values? The data may be of a certain
quality, but that level of quality may or may not be adequate for a
particular project.Maybe the data can rate itself - The summary results could show
measurement accuracy, spatial accuracy, temporal accuracy, scale,
completeness etc. And it would be good to be able to search or filter
against these.[sorry - I don't know whether this list is more for Q&A or for discussion]
Richard (Abe) Coughlin
SPATIAL DATA & APPLICATIONS SPECIALIST
*Pacific Islands Ocean Observing System*
*University of Hawaii 1-808-956-0822 *
www.pacioos.org <http://www.pacioos.org>
On 8/9/2012 10:06 AM, ByronCinNZ wrote:
> Currently in GeoNetwork, the only way I can think that the public can
give
> feedback is in the rating system. But this does not come close to
providing
> what you are looking for. I think this would require some enhancement.
> Perhaps a comment field could be attached to the ratings dropdown that
> populates a comments table for that metadata. Submit a enhancement ticket
> for it. I think it is a good idea. Get a little crowd sourcing into
> GeoNetwork.
>
> Cheers,
> Byron
>
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Hi Richard, Heikki et al,
I think that a comment field along with the star rating would be a good
idea. I have seen something similar on other feed back systems such as,
the Ubuntu Software Centre interface.
If the user is willing to make a rating, via the stars, then the user
may also wish to make a comment on why they have made that rating. Eg. a
comment on the metadata or the data. This would "kill two birds with one
stone". It will allow someone to make comments on any of the
information, data or metadata, without affecting the metadata record
itself. It wouldn't be appropriate for any user to be able to edit the
metadata but they may suggest changes to the metadata or data.
I see great use of the ability to not only turn on ratings, in the
administration interface, but also allow comments to be added to that
rating. There should also be a method of allowing all logged in users to
be able to list all the comments about the metadata for which these
users are responsible.
This later functionality would allow any comments about suggested
changes to the metadata to be addressed in the metadata record by the
appropriate administrator, reviewer, editor etc. or allow an
administrator to suggest to editors that they may need to address
certain issues with their metadata.
My two cents worth.
John Hockaday
On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 23:42 +0200, heikki wrote:
hi Richard,
you're very welcome to use this list as a forum for discussions,
brainstorming, venting .. I think it is most valuable to get ideas from
GeoNetwork users out here, the more the better.I think some widely-used metadata standards contain sections where the
quality of the data can be described. Of course this is quite something
else than having a facility for users to give public feedback. Also, you
have a good point about differentiating with the quality of the *meta*data
-- that is not addressed by that. The existing rating system, as you hint,
is more of like anonymous Like-button, and doesn't make clear what that is
really about.My 2¢,
kind regards
Heikki DoelemanOn Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Richard (Abe) Coughlin <rac88@anonymised.com>wrote:
> I agree its good to have feedback, particularly if its related to
> providing information of identified errors related to the metadata.
>
> However, I don't know whether its necessary to complicate the software
> to provide a full feedback module where someone can simply identify the
> 'Point of Contact' in the metadata and email them, or simply use the
> feedback form already in place if its a problem relating to the catalog
> representation or display of the metadata.
>
> Even the rating system seems pointless to me. What are they rating - the
> data, the metadata, based upon what values? The data may be of a certain
> quality, but that level of quality may or may not be adequate for a
> particular project.
>
> Maybe the data can rate itself - The summary results could show
> measurement accuracy, spatial accuracy, temporal accuracy, scale,
> completeness etc. And it would be good to be able to search or filter
> against these.
>
> [sorry - I don't know whether this list is more for Q&A or for discussion]
>
>
> Richard (Abe) Coughlin
>
> SPATIAL DATA & APPLICATIONS SPECIALIST
> *Pacific Islands Ocean Observing System*
> *University of Hawaii 1-808-956-0822 *
> www.pacioos.org <http://www.pacioos.org>
> On 8/9/2012 10:06 AM, ByronCinNZ wrote:
> > Currently in GeoNetwork, the only way I can think that the public can
> give
> > feedback is in the rating system. But this does not come close to
> providing
> > what you are looking for. I think this would require some enhancement.
> > Perhaps a comment field could be attached to the ratings dropdown that
> > populates a comments table for that metadata. Submit a enhancement ticket
> > for it. I think it is a good idea. Get a little crowd sourcing into
> > GeoNetwork.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Byron
> >
> >
> >
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FWIW,
Reflecting on this after my last post, I came to much the same idea as John
has posted. What I see that it could be useful for is a sort of crowd
sourced QC. This could be a place where users could report issues with the
metadata. This would be particularly useful if you metadata contains a lot
of external links that need to be checked for validity occasionally. Because
these comments would be tied directly to the metadata, it would be easy for
a metadata custodian to track and act upon these comments as part of a
standard workflow.
Cheers,
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