[GeoNetwork-users] inquiry / usage of GN for MD maintenance out there

Dear GN-users,

I would like to learn more about how GN is used out there, especially in
an organizational environment where ISO19139 metadata needs to be created
and maintained.

It seems to me that, for all its qualities, the ISO19139 editor is still
pretty complicated. So one question is how users charged with maintaining
the metadata, who are often non-technical, deal with this?

I would also be very grateful if someone could share some experiences on
the sort of organizational structure around metadata management, for
example if different departments are supposed to maintain metadata. How do
you represent this in GN?

When it comes to managing metadata, it seems to me that an organizational
structure and processes are needed. This has nothing to do with the
software itself, but maybe someone can share some insights.

thanks very much and
best regards
Timo

Hello Timo,

Here at RAN Metoc services we have maintained a Geonetwork with
ISO19139 for some time now so I thought I would share our experiences.

You are right the ISO19139 editor is very detailed and technical. To make it
easier for non-technical users we use templates. Typically users only need to
enter of change a few items on the template i.e. Title, Abstract, bounding box,
keywords, creation date, 'edition details' and 'environment description'. However
in saying that the users need to to follow the 'instruction sheet' to the letter and not
accidently stray into the many other fields on the template. So this is not a error free
process.

For some other metadata creation we have an automatic process using parameters
passed to an XSL script e.g construct an abstract, title and bounding box. This automatic
creation is a lot easier and less error prone.

We have not hit the issue of different departments entering metadata as we are just one
here. I know that Geonetwork now has a 'logo management'
feature which could in theory be used to designate different branches in an organisation.
Metadata are tagged by different logo's and source-uuid and using the Advanced Search->RestrictTo->
Catalog drop down its possible to search by logo/source. Perhaps some other organisations with many departments could share their experiences on how they manage this.

There are 2 software projects I know of that are designed to make the process of metadata
entry much simpler. These software are editors that make standalone XML documents which can
later be imported into a corporate Geonetwork server.

Firstly there is the 'ANZMet Lite' editor (see http://www.osdm.gov.au/Metadata/ANZLIC+metadata+resources/ANZMet+Toolkit+(final+draft+-+07.2009)/default.aspx) which uses a wizard based tabbed workflow.
ANZMetLite was designed with the ISO19139-ANZLIC profile in mind.

Secondly there is the newer xMet editor under development (see blog at http://www.mymaps.gov.au/blogs/xmet/ ) which allows an administrator to
construct customised data entry forms. The xMET data entry form can focus on
exactly the data items needed to be entered making it very simple and non-technical. xMET
allows plugging in of different metadata standards and profiles of those. We have
done some testing with xMet Lite using the ISO19139-MCP profile.

Andrew

----- Original Message ----- From: "Timo Proescholdt" <timo@anonymised.com>
To: <geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:10 PM
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] inquiry / usage of GN for MD maintenance outthere

Dear GN-users,

I would like to learn more about how GN is used out there, especially in
an organizational environment where ISO19139 metadata needs to be created
and maintained.

It seems to me that, for all its qualities, the ISO19139 editor is still
pretty complicated. So one question is how users charged with maintaining
the metadata, who are often non-technical, deal with this?

I would also be very grateful if someone could share some experiences on
the sort of organizational structure around metadata management, for
example if different departments are supposed to maintain metadata. How do
you represent this in GN?

When it comes to managing metadata, it seems to me that an organizational
structure and processes are needed. This has nothing to do with the
software itself, but maybe someone can share some insights.

thanks very much and
best regards
Timo

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Timo,

As a former GIS Data Manager with many years experience in metadata, I
personally think the way GeoNetwork leverages templates is brilliant for
simplifying the metadata creation process. This is because for most GIS
professionals the next piece of data they create is going to have almost
identical metadata to the last. That being said, I do understand that the
metadata creation process feels way to complicated for most users - I often
feel this way myself.

We are about to embark on a project which aims to simplify, or should I say
rationalize, this by using BPM tools from Bonita. The idea is to implement
the metadata creation process as a workflow and in a workflow environment
while still leveraging GeoNetwork capabilities like templates and help
files. The thing I have against a lot of the "User Friendly" interfaces to
GeoNetwork I have seen is they sacrifice the best parts of the GeoNetwork
interface, like robust templates, to give the user what appears to be a more
friendly tool. This is all well and good for the first several batches of
metadata they create, but it becomes limiting, as compared to the GeoNetwork
editing interface, in creating metadata once they become comfortable with
the tasks.

If you like, I can keep you posted to our progress in implementing a BPM
approach to this problem.

Cheers,
Byron Cochrane
LISAsoft

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Hi Timo,

Further to Andrew's mention of the xMET tool that uploads and downloads
into any CSW system. The Office of Spatial Policy (OSP) located within
the Australian Government Department of Resources, Energy and Tourism,
have developed xMET with the help of the Australian National University.
We indend to make the Java application software available as Open Source
Software so that the community can contribute further enhancements to
xMET.

OSP also manages the http://www.mymaps.gov.au/ web site which we hope
will be a replacement for the ANZLIC Australian Spatial Data Directory
(ASDD) located at http://asdd.ga.gov.au/asdd/. The ASDD is a remote
search catalogue system which provides a web interface to search more
than 20 metadata repositories located around Australia.

The http://www.mymaps.gov.au/ web site is based on GeoNetwork and
harvests metadata records from about 23 different Z3950 servers. Many of
these are the same repositories and mentioned above. The process of
managing the information about these repositories is as follows:

1. a person 'registers' themselves as a 'harvesting node'. This is not
an option in the 'profile' list but I hope that someone will add it. I
guess I need to add a request of some sort?

2. The user is accepted by the mymaps manager and allocated a node
identifier and a node manager's group eg. 'aims-node'.

3. They user then fills out a service metadata record of the node they
wish to have harvested and stores it on the GN catalogue.

4. The mymaps manager then uses the service metadata content to harvest
metadata from that havesting node. A 'Category' is added for the
harveted node, the URL of the service is used for setting the harvesting
process eg. Z3950://asdd.ga.gov.au:6668/ga/ and how often the harvest is
to be done. Usually every day. The service itself is checked every hour
on the half hour so that if the node is down for let's say four
consecutive hours, then the node manager (email address in the
'register' information) is notified that there is a problem and then
they can fix the problem.

5. If the harvesting node details change then the node manager makes the
changes via the service metadata record.

6. Every hour on the half hour GN checks the service metadata records in
the harvesting group and then notifies the mymaps manager of any changes
needed for harvesting. This should then be adjusted in the harvesting
details but I think that this has to be done manually. Hence and email
needs to go to the mymaps.gov.au manager to tell them to edit the
harvesting details.

7. The mymaps manager makes the changes to the harvesting interface.

8. The mymaps GN harvests the metadata from the nodes according to the
settings made by the mymaps manager.

Simon Pigot has written much of the software that processes most of
these functions but there are a few things still missing. Simon and I
have discussed this work flow in detail and I hope to get some changes
to GN once I have the time. ;--)

There are different types of nodes. They are:

1. Where the metadata is provided by a service external to the mymaps GN
system.

2. Where the metadata is held on the mymaps GN system and the users use
xMET or ANZMET Lite to download and upload the metadata to the mymaps GN
CSW.

3. Where the entire GN system is backed up from another web site. We
have verbal agreement with LINZ in New Zealand to backup each others GN
system but I still haven't had enough time to properly set and test that
process.

I hope that this helps.

John Hockaday.

-----Original Message-----
From: andrew walsh [mailto:awalsh@anonymised.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 10:25 AM
To: Timo Proescholdt
Cc: geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [GeoNetwork-users] inquiry / usage of GN for MD
maintenanceoutthere

Hello Timo,

Here at RAN Metoc services we have maintained a Geonetwork with
ISO19139 for some time now so I thought I would share our experiences.

You are right the ISO19139 editor is very detailed and
technical. To make it
easier for non-technical users we use templates. Typically
users only need to
enter of change a few items on the template i.e. Title,
Abstract, bounding box,
keywords, creation date, 'edition details' and 'environment
description'.
However
in saying that the users need to to follow the 'instruction
sheet' to the letter
and not
accidently stray into the many other fields on the template.
So this is not a
error free
process.

For some other metadata creation we have an automatic process
using parameters
passed to an XSL script e.g construct an abstract, title and
bounding box. This
automatic
creation is a lot easier and less error prone.

We have not hit the issue of different departments entering
metadata as we are
just one
here. I know that Geonetwork now has a 'logo management'
feature which could in theory be used to designate different
branches in an
organisation.
Metadata are tagged by different logo's and source-uuid and
using the Advanced
Search->RestrictTo->
Catalog drop down its possible to search by logo/source.
Perhaps some other
organisations with many departments could share their
experiences on how they
manage this.

There are 2 software projects I know of that are designed to
make the process of
metadata
entry much simpler. These software are editors that make
standalone XML
documents which can
later be imported into a corporate Geonetwork server.

Firstly there is the 'ANZMet Lite' editor (see
http://www.osdm.gov.au/Metadata/ANZLIC+metadata+resources/ANZM
et+Toolkit+%28final+draft+-+07.2009%29/default.aspx)
which uses a wizard based tabbed workflow.
ANZMetLite was designed with the ISO19139-ANZLIC profile in mind.

Secondly there is the newer xMet editor under development
(see blog at
http://www.mymaps.gov.au/blogs/xmet/ ) which allows an
administrator to
construct customised data entry forms. The xMET data entry
form can focus on
exactly the data items needed to be entered making it very simple and
non-technical. xMET
allows plugging in of different metadata standards and
profiles of those. We
have
done some testing with xMet Lite using the ISO19139-MCP profile.

Andrew

----- Original Message -----
From: "Timo Proescholdt" <timo@anonymised.com>
To: <geonetwork-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:10 PM
Subject: [GeoNetwork-users] inquiry / usage of GN for MD
maintenance outthere

> Dear GN-users,
>
> I would like to learn more about how GN is used out there,
especially in
> an organizational environment where ISO19139 metadata needs
to be created
> and maintained.
>
> It seems to me that, for all its qualities, the ISO19139
editor is still
> pretty complicated. So one question is how users charged
with maintaining
> the metadata, who are often non-technical, deal with this?
>
> I would also be very grateful if someone could share some
experiences on
> the sort of organizational structure around metadata management, for
> example if different departments are supposed to maintain
metadata. How do
> you represent this in GN?
>
> When it comes to managing metadata, it seems to me that an
organizational
> structure and processes are needed. This has nothing to do with the
> software itself, but maybe someone can share some insights.
>
> thanks very much and
> best regards
> Timo
>
>
>
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