Hi There,
I'm following up on a question asked on this list last year about retired
records. In geonetwork 2.10 these are still active and visible to users
searching the catalogue- but this is potentially confusing as the end user
doesn't know at a glance that the record is retired/superceded- presumably
they can also be harvested as well.
Is there any way of setting the behaviour so that retired records are not
visible to searches/harvests- otherwise what's the point in having retired
as a status?
Thanks
Jo
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Hi Jo
That status is a bit strange, I don't know really the use case. There's a
constant in the Java code for that status, but seem not used in any place.
I see only a usage of retired status in the metadata change status form, to
disable that status for editor users.
In case you want to unpublish a metadata set to draft, at least that
removes the permissions to the ALL group, so it's not available, except for
users with rights to view/edit the records.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi There,
I'm following up on a question asked on this list last year about retired
records. In geonetwork 2.10 these are still active and visible to users
searching the catalogue- but this is potentially confusing as the end user
doesn't know at a glance that the record is retired/superceded- presumably
they can also be harvested as well.
Is there any way of setting the behaviour so that retired records are not
visible to searches/harvests- otherwise what's the point in having retired
as a status?
Thanks
Jo
--
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Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey, KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
*****************************************
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Hi Jose,
Thanks for the quick response. I think there's definitely a need for a
"retired" status- it should probably work in the same way as "draft" and
set the record to be not published or searchable. Setting them to draft
won't really work in this case because we already have a workflow that uses
the "draft" status.
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Jo
That status is a bit strange, I don't know really the use case. There's a
constant in the Java code for that status, but seem not used in any place.
I see only a usage of retired status in the metadata change status form, to
disable that status for editor users.
In case you want to unpublish a metadata set to draft, at least that
removes the permissions to the ALL group, so it's not available, except for
users with rights to view/edit the records.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi There,
I'm following up on a question asked on this list last year about retired
records. In geonetwork 2.10 these are still active and visible to users
searching the catalogue- but this is potentially confusing as the end user
doesn't know at a glance that the record is retired/superceded- presumably
they can also be harvested as well.
Is there any way of setting the behaviour so that retired records are not
visible to searches/harvests- otherwise what's the point in having retired
as a status?
Thanks
Jo
--
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Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey, KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
*****************************************
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Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no.
864201149.
Hi Jo
I see your point. I think at least should be searchable for the
administrators and the metadata owner, so can be changed the status later
in case want to remove the retired status.
I think this could be managed in DefaultStatusActions.statusChange code
removing all permissions for the metadata for all groups (not only for the
ALL group as in draft status), this way administrators and metadata owner
will still be able to update the status later.
Lets see if other developers provide some input to this also, to implement
it properly.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Jose,
Thanks for the quick response. I think there's definitely a need for a
"retired" status- it should probably work in the same way as "draft" and
set the record to be not published or searchable. Setting them to draft
won't really work in this case because we already have a workflow that uses
the "draft" status.
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jo
That status is a bit strange, I don't know really the use case. There's a
constant in the Java code for that status, but seem not used in any place.
I see only a usage of retired status in the metadata change status form, to
disable that status for editor users.
In case you want to unpublish a metadata set to draft, at least that
removes the permissions to the ALL group, so it's not available, except for
users with rights to view/edit the records.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi There,
I'm following up on a question asked on this list last year about retired
records. In geonetwork 2.10 these are still active and visible to users
searching the catalogue- but this is potentially confusing as the end
user
doesn't know at a glance that the record is retired/superceded-
presumably
they can also be harvested as well.
Is there any way of setting the behaviour so that retired records are not
visible to searches/harvests- otherwise what's the point in having
retired
as a status?
Thanks
Jo
--
*Jo Cook*
Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey,
KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
*****************************************
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Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no.
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Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no.
864201149.
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<http://www.geocat.net/>Veenderweg 136721 WD BennekomThe NetherlandsT: +31
(0)318 416664 <+31318416664>M: +31 (0)655 818332 <+31655818332>
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Hi Jose,
Thanks, that's great. Would it be helpful for me to ask this on the
developers list, or to submit a github issue?
Regards
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Jo
I see your point. I think at least should be searchable for the
administrators and the metadata owner, so can be changed the status later
in case want to remove the retired status.
I think this could be managed in DefaultStatusActions.statusChange code
removing all permissions for the metadata for all groups (not only for the
ALL group as in draft status), this way administrators and metadata owner
will still be able to update the status later.
Lets see if other developers provide some input to this also, to implement
it properly.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jose,
Thanks for the quick response. I think there's definitely a need for a
"retired" status- it should probably work in the same way as "draft" and
set the record to be not published or searchable. Setting them to draft
won't really work in this case because we already have a workflow that uses
the "draft" status.
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jo
That status is a bit strange, I don't know really the use case. There's
a constant in the Java code for that status, but seem not used in any
place. I see only a usage of retired status in the metadata change status
form, to disable that status for editor users.
In case you want to unpublish a metadata set to draft, at least that
removes the permissions to the ALL group, so it's not available, except for
users with rights to view/edit the records.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi There,
I'm following up on a question asked on this list last year about
retired
records. In geonetwork 2.10 these are still active and visible to users
searching the catalogue- but this is potentially confusing as the end
user
doesn't know at a glance that the record is retired/superceded-
presumably
they can also be harvested as well.
Is there any way of setting the behaviour so that retired records are
not
visible to searches/harvests- otherwise what's the point in having
retired
as a status?
Thanks
Jo
--
*Jo Cook*
Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey,
KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
*****************************************
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Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no.
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Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no.
864201149.
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<http://www.geocat.net/>Veenderweg 136721 WD BennekomThe NetherlandsT: +31
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Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey, KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
*****************************************
Company registration no. 5410695. Registered in England and Wales.
Registered office: 120 Manor Green Road, Epsom, Surrey, KT19 8LN VAT no.
864201149.
Hi Jo
Check in the developers list, I guess others can provide there feedback
about the actual purpose of retired status and the proposal to remove all
permissions.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Jose,
Thanks, that's great. Would it be helpful for me to ask this on the
developers list, or to submit a github issue?
Regards
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jo
I see your point. I think at least should be searchable for the
administrators and the metadata owner, so can be changed the status later
in case want to remove the retired status.
I think this could be managed in DefaultStatusActions.statusChange code
removing all permissions for the metadata for all groups (not only for the
ALL group as in draft status), this way administrators and metadata owner
will still be able to update the status later.
Lets see if other developers provide some input to this also, to
implement it properly.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jose,
Thanks for the quick response. I think there's definitely a need for a
"retired" status- it should probably work in the same way as "draft" and
set the record to be not published or searchable. Setting them to draft
won't really work in this case because we already have a workflow that uses
the "draft" status.
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jo
That status is a bit strange, I don't know really the use case. There's
a constant in the Java code for that status, but seem not used in any
place. I see only a usage of retired status in the metadata change status
form, to disable that status for editor users.
In case you want to unpublish a metadata set to draft, at least that
removes the permissions to the ALL group, so it's not available, except for
users with rights to view/edit the records.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi There,
I'm following up on a question asked on this list last year about
retired
records. In geonetwork 2.10 these are still active and visible to users
searching the catalogue- but this is potentially confusing as the end
user
doesn't know at a glance that the record is retired/superceded-
presumably
they can also be harvested as well.
Is there any way of setting the behaviour so that retired records are
not
visible to searches/harvests- otherwise what's the point in having
retired
as a status?
Thanks
Jo
--
*Jo Cook*
Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey,
KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
*****************************************
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864201149.
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Hi Jose,
That's done- if I got something wrong in the email to the developers list
then feel free to clear it up there.
Thanks
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:45 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Jo
Check in the developers list, I guess others can provide there feedback
about the actual purpose of retired status and the proposal to remove all
permissions.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jose,
Thanks, that's great. Would it be helpful for me to ask this on the
developers list, or to submit a github issue?
Regards
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jo
I see your point. I think at least should be searchable for the
administrators and the metadata owner, so can be changed the status later
in case want to remove the retired status.
I think this could be managed in DefaultStatusActions.statusChange code
removing all permissions for the metadata for all groups (not only for the
ALL group as in draft status), this way administrators and metadata owner
will still be able to update the status later.
Lets see if other developers provide some input to this also, to
implement it properly.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jose,
Thanks for the quick response. I think there's definitely a need for a
"retired" status- it should probably work in the same way as "draft" and
set the record to be not published or searchable. Setting them to draft
won't really work in this case because we already have a workflow that uses
the "draft" status.
Jo
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jose Garcia <jose.garcia@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi Jo
That status is a bit strange, I don't know really the use case.
There's a constant in the Java code for that status, but seem not used in
any place. I see only a usage of retired status in the metadata change
status form, to disable that status for editor users.
In case you want to unpublish a metadata set to draft, at least that
removes the permissions to the ALL group, so it's not available, except for
users with rights to view/edit the records.
Regards,
Jose García
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Jo Cook <jocook@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi There,
I'm following up on a question asked on this list last year about
retired
records. In geonetwork 2.10 these are still active and visible to
users
searching the catalogue- but this is potentially confusing as the end
user
doesn't know at a glance that the record is retired/superceded-
presumably
they can also be harvested as well.
Is there any way of setting the behaviour so that retired records are
not
visible to searches/harvests- otherwise what's the point in having
retired
as a status?
Thanks
Jo
--
*Jo Cook*
Astun Technology Ltd, The Coach House, 17 West Street, Epsom, Surrey,
KT18
7RL, UK
t:+44 7930 524 155
iShare - Data integration and publishing platform
<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
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<http://www.isharemaps.com/>
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864201149.
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