Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
Now that CITE tests have passed on master we can think about it 
Master has not quite had the testing it usually does.
Let me check if now is a good time to back port, what were the bug fixes associated with a sprint / jetty upgrade again? Or is just for better compatibility.
On 26 November 2015 at 09:25, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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No specific bug fixes associated with the upgrade, it’s just bringing the libraries up to a version that are actually maintained/supported by the respective projects. And since I have a mandate to do it at the moment I thought I would offer.
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On 26 November 2015 at 09:25, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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Nifty, I like the idea - but we should wait to hear back from others.
On 26 November 2015 at 14:18, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
No specific bug fixes associated with the upgrade, it’s just bringing the libraries up to a version that are actually maintained/supported by the respective projects. And since I have a mandate to do it at the moment I thought I would offer.
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:41 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
Now that CITE tests have passed on master we can think about it
Let me check if now is a good time to back port, what were the bug fixes associated with a sprint / jetty upgrade again? Or is just for better compatibility.
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On 26 November 2015 at 09:25, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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Hi Justin,
this one had me thinking a while
So, there are two separate things. The first one is the Spring upgrade. It’s an upgrade between
two minor versions, had a single commit, basically just the version number change in the pom files, worked fine.
The Spring integration is exercised by our tests and by the CITE tests, all of them seem to be working fine.
An upgrade of the library that wires everything is still risky, but given the above I’m not too concerned… let’s make that a +0?
I believe the Jetty upgrade is more contentious, more reward and more risk.
The Jetty we are shipping with on 2.8.x is a bit of an horror, old, inefficient, with known security risks, so an
upgrade is very much welcomed.
Testing wise however we are coming out pretty light though. We had the CITE tests running on master for a few
days, and I believe some people tested it interactively… but the stable series is meant for production, so I believe
we need more than that.
And then we have the installers: how many people have tried the windows and OSX installer with the new Jetty and can attest they are working?
Possibly a number <= 1, assuming Justin has had the time to check both when making the Jetty upgrade :-p
So… from this point of view I’d be -1 on the Jetty upgrade, but at the same time… it would be so good…
so what can be done to mitigate those risks?
Here is a few of ideas, hopefully others will add more/better ones:
What do you think?
Cheers
Andrea
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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I am willing to test a nightly build.
I note that OpenGeo Suite ships with a slightly newer version of Jetty and I would be in favour of upgrading both for consistency.
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Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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Fair enough. I will say that I have to do the back port regardless for a project but I can easily work from a branch in my own fork for now if folks decide it’s not worth the risk.
As for mitigating the risk, your suggestions all sound good. Regarding updating a demo server the only people I know that run a stable GeoServer demo are Boundless and GeoSolutions. So I’ll let those devs comment on if they want to do an upgrade. I can cut a 2.8.x build with the library upgrades or they can grab a nightly from master. Just let me know.
As for running benchmarks is there a test suite that is readily available and easy to set up? Depending on how much work is involved there I can volunteer some time to put to that.
As for a milestone release from master I can also put some time toward that as long as it’s something I can bust off in a few hours time frame. If there is going to be more ceremony around it not sure how much time I can devote to it at the moment.
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 6:25 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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wrote:
Fair enough. I will say that I have to do the back port regardless for a
project but I can easily work from a branch in my own fork for now if folks
decide it’s not worth the risk.As for mitigating the risk, your suggestions all sound good. Regarding
updating a demo server the only people I know that run a stable GeoServer
demo are Boundless and GeoSolutions. So I’ll let those devs comment on if
they want to do an upgrade. I can cut a 2.8.x build with the library
upgrades or they can grab a nightly from master. Just let me know.
I'll check internally. At the time of writing the demo servers are pretty
old, we have 2.6.x on both:
http://demo.geo-solutions.it/geoserver/web/
http://demo.opengeo.org/geoserver/web/
As for running benchmarks is there a test suite that is readily available
and easy to set up? Depending on how much work is involved there I can
volunteer some time to put to that.
Grabbing the data is the main pain point (tens of GB worth of). But I can
run the benchmarks locally if we get the other mitigation bits moving.
As for a milestone release from master I can also put some time toward
that as long as it’s something I can bust off in a few hours time frame. If
there is going to be more ceremony around it not sure how much time I can
devote to it at the moment.
I'd say, little or not ceremony needed, just run the release scripts on
master and make a quick blog post explaining why we did it? I can help with
a short description of the new features I've implemented so far
Cheers
Andrea
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Justin:
Following up on this one based on test results - the milestone release is mostly successful:
If we can figure out the above issue I am happy to backport.
On 26 November 2015 at 09:25, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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Justin:
Following up on this one based on test results - the milestone release is mostly successful:
- linux: bin download works
- windows: Jukka tested - my understanding is the bin download worked, but installer may be untested
- osx: both bin and app install did not work (moving JAI jars to jetty/lib folder allowed it to start)
If we can figure out the above issue I am happy to backport.
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On 26 November 2015 at 09:25, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hey folks, I wanted to get a feel for how devs would feel about back porting the recent jetty and spring upgrades to the 2.8.x branch? I’ve been working with them on master without any issues, not sure if anyone else has run into any hitches though.
If people do think this is a safe back port is now (with a 2.8 release pretty fresh out the door) a good time?
Thanks!
-Justin
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