[Geoserver-devel] Better visibility for the Marlin renderer

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1

Hi,
I would like to give Marlin (http://www.geo-solutions.it/blog/developerss-corner-achieving-extreme-geoserver-scalability-with-the-new-marlin-vector-rasterizer/)
better visibility for the GeoServer users, in order to support the sole developer of the library, and show that
more and more software packages are offering it as an option (gvsig-ce is going to have it in the next release,
as it greatly speeds up rendering of point clouds, lidar data I presume).

The ideal thing would be to have an extension module, as it would end up showing in the downloads,
but Marlin is something that requires almost nothing of GeoServer, it needs to be installed in the JRE/JDK
instead and then some startup options need to be provided.

I guess the second best option would be to write a tutorial on how to use it, with detailed instructions
on how to make it work with Windows installations for example.

What do you think, ideas?

Cheers
Andrea

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+1
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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Andrea Aime
<andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I would like to give Marlin
(http://www.geo-solutions.it/blog/developerss-corner-achieving-extreme-geoserver-scalability-with-the-new-marlin-vector-rasterizer/)
better visibility for the GeoServer users, in order to support the sole
developer of the library, and show that
more and more software packages are offering it as an option (gvsig-ce is
going to have it in the next release,
as it greatly speeds up rendering of point clouds, lidar data I presume).

The ideal thing would be to have an extension module, as it would end up
showing in the downloads,
but Marlin is something that requires almost nothing of GeoServer, it needs
to be installed in the JRE/JDK
instead and then some startup options need to be provided.

I guess the second best option would be to write a tutorial on how to use
it, with detailed instructions
on how to make it work with Windows installations for example.

What do you think, ideas?

Cheers
Andrea

--

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55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
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fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 339 8844549

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Coming from a primarily Windows based environment, I like the tutorial for Windows installation. I, personally, would also greatly benefit from a Linux tutorial as that is one of the environments we deploy to. Not sure if my plus counts, but here it is in any case. +1

Chris Snider

Senior Software Engineer

Intelligent Software Solutions, Inc.

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Hi,

I would like to give Marlin (http://www.geo-solutions.it/blog/developerss-corner-achieving-extreme-geoserver-scalability-with-the-new-marlin-vector-rasterizer/)

better visibility for the GeoServer users, in order to support the sole developer of the library, and show that

more and more software packages are offering it as an option (gvsig-ce is going to have it in the next release,

as it greatly speeds up rendering of point clouds, lidar data I presume).

The ideal thing would be to have an extension module, as it would end up showing in the downloads,

but Marlin is something that requires almost nothing of GeoServer, it needs to be installed in the JRE/JDK

instead and then some startup options need to be provided.

I guess the second best option would be to write a tutorial on how to use it, with detailed instructions

on how to make it work with Windows installations for example.

What do you think, ideas?

Cheers

Andrea

–

==

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@geowolf

Technical Lead

GeoSolutions S.A.S.

Via Poggio alle Viti 1187

55054 Massarosa (LU)

Italy

phone: +39 0584 962313

fax: +39 0584 1660272

mob: +39 339 8844549

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4

I actually like the idea of doing an extension module for it. Even the module is really just a tutorial and instructions, I think it could raise the visibility of it substantially. Since many people just go to the download page, especially if they’ve been using GeoServer for awhile. I think it’s ok if it’s very little or even no code - it is a functionality that extends and enhances GeoServer.

And it sounds like the module could perhaps adjust the start up options, and maybe complain in your GeoServer if you didn’t successfully get it in the jdk/jre?

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:22 AM, Chris Snider <chris.snider@anonymised.com…> wrote:

Coming from a primarily Windows based environment, I like the tutorial for Windows installation. I, personally, would also greatly benefit from a Linux tutorial as that is one of the environments we deploy to. Not sure if my plus counts, but here it is in any case. +1

Chris Snider

Senior Software Engineer

Intelligent Software Solutions, Inc.

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From: Andrea Aime [mailto:andrea.aime@anonymised.com]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 6:41 AM
To: Geoserver-devel
Subject: [Geoserver-devel] Better visibility for the Marlin renderer

Hi,

I would like to give Marlin (http://www.geo-solutions.it/blog/developerss-corner-achieving-extreme-geoserver-scalability-with-the-new-marlin-vector-rasterizer/)

better visibility for the GeoServer users, in order to support the sole developer of the library, and show that

more and more software packages are offering it as an option (gvsig-ce is going to have it in the next release,

as it greatly speeds up rendering of point clouds, lidar data I presume).

The ideal thing would be to have an extension module, as it would end up showing in the downloads,

but Marlin is something that requires almost nothing of GeoServer, it needs to be installed in the JRE/JDK

instead and then some startup options need to be provided.

I guess the second best option would be to write a tutorial on how to use it, with detailed instructions

on how to make it work with Windows installations for example.

What do you think, ideas?

Cheers

Andrea

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Technical Lead

GeoSolutions S.A.S.

Via Poggio alle Viti 1187

55054 Massarosa (LU)

Italy

phone: +39 0584 962313

fax: +39 0584 1660272

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How short can the instructions be made Andrea? Is it just copying a jar into the JRE?

We could add a blurb to the end of each release, similar to the “About GeoServer 2.5 Series”, highlighting "Try This’. I am sure we can rotate through things to try, but we could leave Marlin on rotation for 6 months.

Jody

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Jody Garnett

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I would like to give Marlin (http://www.geo-solutions.it/blog/developerss-corner-achieving-extreme-geoserver-scalability-with-the-new-marlin-vector-rasterizer/)
better visibility for the GeoServer users, in order to support the sole developer of the library, and show that
more and more software packages are offering it as an option (gvsig-ce is going to have it in the next release,
as it greatly speeds up rendering of point clouds, lidar data I presume).

The ideal thing would be to have an extension module, as it would end up showing in the downloads,
but Marlin is something that requires almost nothing of GeoServer, it needs to be installed in the JRE/JDK
instead and then some startup options need to be provided.

I guess the second best option would be to write a tutorial on how to use it, with detailed instructions
on how to make it work with Windows installations for example.

What do you think, ideas?

Cheers
Andrea

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55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
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Could an optional page be made for the windows installer? We already know the JAVA_HOME at that point and could copy the extension in?

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Jody Garnett

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I would like to give Marlin (http://www.geo-solutions.it/blog/developerss-corner-achieving-extreme-geoserver-scalability-with-the-new-marlin-vector-rasterizer/)
better visibility for the GeoServer users, in order to support the sole developer of the library, and show that
more and more software packages are offering it as an option (gvsig-ce is going to have it in the next release,
as it greatly speeds up rendering of point clouds, lidar data I presume).

The ideal thing would be to have an extension module, as it would end up showing in the downloads,
but Marlin is something that requires almost nothing of GeoServer, it needs to be installed in the JRE/JDK
instead and then some startup options need to be provided.

I guess the second best option would be to write a tutorial on how to use it, with detailed instructions
on how to make it work with Windows installations for example.

What do you think, ideas?

Cheers
Andrea

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I will definetly try this on my docker setup. Kudos!

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2014-08-01 20:06 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>:

Could an optional page be made for the windows installer? We already know the JAVA_HOME at that point and could copy the extension in?

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I would like to give Marlin (http://www.geo-solutions.it/blog/developerss-corner-achieving-extreme-geoserver-scalability-with-the-new-marlin-vector-rasterizer/)
better visibility for the GeoServer users, in order to support the sole developer of the library, and show that
more and more software packages are offering it as an option (gvsig-ce is going to have it in the next release,
as it greatly speeds up rendering of point clouds, lidar data I presume).

The ideal thing would be to have an extension module, as it would end up showing in the downloads,
but Marlin is something that requires almost nothing of GeoServer, it needs to be installed in the JRE/JDK
instead and then some startup options need to be provided.

I guess the second best option would be to write a tutorial on how to use it, with detailed instructions
on how to make it work with Windows installations for example.

What do you think, ideas?

Cheers
Andrea

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Chris Holmes <chomie@anonymised.com> wrote:

I actually like the idea of doing an extension module for it. Even the
module is really just a tutorial and instructions, I think it could raise
the visibility of it substantially. Since many people just go to the
download page, especially if they've been using GeoServer for awhile. I
think it's ok if it's very little or even no code - it _is_ a functionality
that extends and enhances GeoServer.

And it sounds like the module could perhaps adjust the start up options,
and maybe complain in your GeoServer if you didn't successfully get it in
the jdk/jre?

Hi Chris,
I like the idea.
Not sure how the module could/would change the startup options, but indeed
we could have a small GUI portion
that at the very least checks if Marlin is around and being used, and maybe
puts a message on the home page
(like the ones about master password being unchanged, that is, visible only
to the administrator)

So the zip would have this layout:
- marlin/ -> contains the jars that need to be put in jre/lib/ext
- web/ -> GUI jars to be put in the GeoServer WEB-INF/lib
- README.txt -> instructions on what to put where

Cheers
Andrea

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Milo van der Linden <milo@anonymised.com>
wrote:

I will definetly try this on my docker setup. Kudos!

Hi Milo,
if you are eager, no need to wait for the custom module, here are
installation instructions:
https://github.com/bourgesl/marlin-renderer/wiki/How-to-use

The custom module is really just a marketing operation, to give Marlin more
visibility,
you can install and use Marlin without it.

Cheers
Andrea

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+1, I rather like Chris Holmes idea of "an extension", even it was just tutorial. At the very least, it bundles Marlin. I am slowly getting 2.5 through to our development platform so keen on both Linux and Windows instructions.

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Thanks Andrea, I will give that a go too.

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