[Geoserver-devel] Codehaus is closing up activities, we need to migrate Jira

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1

Hi,
the codehaus home page has an annoucement that they will be phasing
out all of their services in the next two months, give or take:
http://www.codehaus.org/ (mind, very slow)

So, GeoSErver wise we need to migrate away Jira

So, where do we go with Jira?
I find GitHub ticket management very limited compared

to jira, but livable. One very important thing for us is attachments, people add
images, data and styles to reproduce issues, I believe we cannot do as much
with Github, or that it has limitations… but I did not check recently, so I may
be wrong.

Other options?

Cheers
Andrea

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I could talk to boundless about hosting, LocationTech is looking at hosting for uDig.

We could also ask OSGeo to host, but would need to help sys admin committee set things up.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:07 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
the codehaus home page has an annoucement that they will be phasing
out all of their services in the next two months, give or take:
http://www.codehaus.org/ (mind, very slow)

So, GeoSErver wise we need to migrate away Jira

So, where do we go with Jira?
I find GitHub ticket management very limited compared

to jira, but livable. One very important thing for us is attachments, people add
images, data and styles to reproduce issues, I believe we cannot do as much
with Github, or that it has limitations… but I did not check recently, so I may
be wrong.

Other options?

Cheers
Andrea

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 339 8844549

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I agree Github is not as comprehensive as JIRA, but I do think it’s doable. For things like attachments, etc… I think gists can fill some of that void. I think just the shear convenience of having the issue tracker hosted by github, plus having it “close to the code” make it the option to go with in my mind. Could always try it and see how it goes, and if it really doesn’t end up working start to look at something else. But I don’t have any strong opinion. Just my $0.02.

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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

I could talk to boundless about hosting, LocationTech is looking at hosting for uDig.

We could also ask OSGeo to host, but would need to help sys admin committee set things up.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:07 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
the codehaus home page has an annoucement that they will be phasing
out all of their services in the next two months, give or take:
http://www.codehaus.org/ (mind, very slow)

So, GeoSErver wise we need to migrate away Jira

So, where do we go with Jira?
I find GitHub ticket management very limited compared

to jira, but livable. One very important thing for us is attachments, people add
images, data and styles to reproduce issues, I believe we cannot do as much
with Github, or that it has limitations… but I did not check recently, so I may
be wrong.

Other options?

Cheers
Andrea

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 339 8844549

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Atlassian provide free Jira licences for open source projects.

User migration will require some thought. AFAIK we have no access to user email addresses in Xircles.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 02/03/15 07:37, Jody Garnett wrote:

I could talk to boundless about hosting, LocationTech is looking at hosting
for uDig.

We could also ask OSGeo to host, but would need to help sys admin committee
set things up.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:07 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi,
the codehaus home page has an annoucement that they will be phasing
out all of their services in the next two months, give or take:
http://www.codehaus.org/ (mind, very slow)

So, GeoSErver wise we need to migrate away Jira

So, where do we go with Jira?
I find GitHub ticket management very limited compared
to jira, but livable. One very important thing for us is attachments,
people add
images, data and styles to reproduce issues, I believe we cannot do as much
with Github, or that it has limitations... but I did not check recently,
so I may
be wrong.

Other options?

Cheers
Andrea

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
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55054 Massarosa (LU)
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phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
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What about existing issues, history, and inter-issue links? Would we just migrate the Jira project as a static archive? Seems like a lot of effort if we are going to GitHub.

There appears to be more support for GitHub to Jira migration rather than the other way around. (Not surprising which Atlassian best support.)

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 02/03/15 08:15, Justin Deoliveira wrote:

I agree Github is not as comprehensive as JIRA, but I do think it's doable.
For things like attachments, etc... I think gists can fill some of that
void. I think just the shear convenience of having the issue tracker hosted
by github, plus having it "close to the code" make it the option to go with
in my mind. Could always try it and see how it goes, and if it really
doesn't end up working start to look at something else. But I don't have
any strong opinion. Just my $0.02.

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
wrote:

I could talk to boundless about hosting, LocationTech is looking at
hosting for uDig.

We could also ask OSGeo to host, but would need to help sys admin
committee set things up.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:07 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi,
the codehaus home page has an annoucement that they will be phasing
out all of their services in the next two months, give or take:
http://www.codehaus.org/ (mind, very slow)

So, GeoSErver wise we need to migrate away Jira

So, where do we go with Jira?
I find GitHub ticket management very limited compared
to jira, but livable. One very important thing for us is attachments,
people add
images, data and styles to reproduce issues, I believe we cannot do as
much
with Github, or that it has limitations... but I did not check recently,
so I may
be wrong.

Other options?

Cheers
Andrea

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
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55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

What about existing issues, history, and inter-issue links? Would we just
migrate the Jira project as a static archive? Seems like a lot of effort if
we are going to GitHub.

There appears to be more support for GitHub to Jira migration rather than
the other way around. (Not surprising which Atlassian best support.)

I was searching the topic just a few days ago, I had the impression most
discussions ended up on this one:
https://github.com/MrDys/motherhubber

Which.. well yeah, does not seem that comprehensive

Cheers
Andrea

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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com>
wrote:

I agree Github is not as comprehensive as JIRA, but I do think it's
doable. For things like attachments, etc... I think gists can fill some of
that void. I think just the shear convenience of having the issue tracker
hosted by github, plus having it "close to the code" make it the option to
go with in my mind. Could always try it and see how it goes, and if it
really doesn't end up working start to look at something else. But I don't
have any strong opinion. Just my $0.02.

I agree on the benefit of being close to the code... at the same time, it
does not seem like attaching a
binary file is an easy thing to do, and it's one of the first thing I ask
to reporters, data to reproduce the problem.

Asking them to do this seems kind of... too much of our user base:
http://hanxue-it.blogspot.it/2014/06/how-to-upload-image-binary-file-to-gist.html

Cheers
Andrea

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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Atlassian provide free Jira licences for open source projects.

Am I misreading it, or are they giving away licences, but you have to host
the software on
your computers (which means, manage backups, upgrades and whatnot)?

They also have a cloud offering, but I could not find a open source
offering for it (maybe I looked
took quickly)

Cheers
Andrea

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That is correct, this is how Refractions was able to host confluence for the uDig project.

So yeah I skipped over the license part and went straight to organizations that could host the resulting service. Let me send an email to OSGeo to see if that is even an option.

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On 1 March 2015 at 12:23, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com4191…> wrote:

Atlassian provide free Jira licences for open source projects.

Am I misreading it, or are they giving away licences, but you have to host the software on
your computers (which means, manage backups, upgrades and whatnot)?

They also have a cloud offering, but I could not find a open source offering for it (maybe I looked
took quickly)

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Created a trac issue here: http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1478

I personally don’t mind using github issues, but the experience is far more limited (with respect to attachments, workflows, searching). We would also have to mess with our release process a bit …

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That is correct, this is how Refractions was able to host confluence for the uDig project.

So yeah I skipped over the license part and went straight to organizations that could host the resulting service. Let me send an email to OSGeo to see if that is even an option.

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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Atlassian provide free Jira licences for open source projects.

Am I misreading it, or are they giving away licences, but you have to host the software on
your computers (which means, manage backups, upgrades and whatnot)?

They also have a cloud offering, but I could not find a open source offering for it (maybe I looked
took quickly)

Cheers
Andrea

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On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com>
wrote:

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Atlassian provide free Jira licences for open source projects.

Am I misreading it, or are they giving away licences, but you have to host
the software on
your computers (which means, manage backups, upgrades and whatnot)?

They also have a cloud offering, but I could not find a open source
offering for it (maybe I looked
took quickly)

I've worked with non-profit/OSS organisations before that have used
OnDemand - AFAIK you just have to apply and they approve it.

https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing "Qualified open source
projects can receive free subscriptions for Atlassian Cloud offerings."

Note that the abilities to a) use your own domain (eg. jira.geoserver.org),
and b) install most 3rd-party plugins isn't available with the
Cloud/OnDemand offerings.

Cheers,

Rob :slight_smile:

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On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Robert Coup <robert.coup@anonymised.com>
wrote:

I've worked with non-profit/OSS organisations before that have used
OnDemand - AFAIK you just have to apply and they approve it.

https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing "Qualified open source
projects can receive free subscriptions for Atlassian Cloud offerings."

Note that the abilities to a) use your own domain (eg. jira.geoserver.org),
and b) install most 3rd-party plugins isn't available with the
Cloud/OnDemand offerings.

Interesting indeed. I don't believe we use plugins right now, but of course
it would be nice to
have the DVCS connector to mimic some of the integration GitHub provides on
its issues
https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/com.atlassian.jira.plugins.jira-bitbucket-connector-plugin

Do you know if this is "third party"?

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Andrea

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Hi Andrea,

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AFAIK most of the source-control connectors are built in. The “JIRA DVCS Connector add-on” which discusses Github integration is in the JIRA Cloud docs[1], so looks like that’s fine.

[1] https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/Cloud/Administering+Bitbucket+and+GitHub+with+JIRA

Rob :slight_smile:

On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Robert Coup <robert.coup@anonymised.com> wrote:

Interesting indeed. I don’t believe we use plugins right now, but of course it would be nice to
have the DVCS connector to mimic some of the integration GitHub provides on its issues
https://marketplace.atlassian.com/plugins/com.atlassian.jira.plugins.jira-bitbucket-connector-plugin

Do you know if this is “third party”?

Note that the abilities to a) use your own domain (eg. jira.geoserver.org), and b) install most 3rd-party plugins isn’t available with the Cloud/OnDemand offerings.

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FWIW, notes on importing Issues into JIRA Cloud from another JIRA instance are here: https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/Cloud/Importing+Issues#ImportingIssues-ImportingissuesfromJIRAandotherthird-partyissuetrackers

Looks like you just need a backup of the data + attachments exported from the existing instance.

Rob :slight_smile:

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I reiterate: the big issue I see is migrating users. We do not have access to user email addresses.

- How many users are there?
- Will we manage user accounts in the new system?
- What process do we have to allow users to claim accounts?
- How do we coordinate this management with other projects, such as GeoTools?

Humorous JIRA migration anecdote time: a once-well-known GeoServer developer had internal organisation (non-GeoServer) JIRA login "RobA"; when this JIRA instance was migrated to corporate JIRA where his corporate standard login was "atk093", corporate IT used a case-insensitive and context unaware search and replace on the exported XML to transform logins to the corporate standard. Unfortunately this affected all text. Every instances of the word "probably" was converted to "patk093bly", and a new piece of jargon was born. :slight_smile:

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 03/03/15 10:31, Robert Coup wrote:

FWIW, notes on importing Issues into JIRA Cloud from another JIRA instance
are here:
https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/Cloud/Importing+Issues#ImportingIssues-ImportingissuesfromJIRAandotherthird-partyissuetrackers

Looks like you just need a backup of the data + attachments exported from
the existing instance.

Rob :slight_smile:

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On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

I reiterate: the big issue I see is migrating users. We do not have access
to user email addresses.

Sorry Ben,
i've ignored this part because I believe there is little to nothing we can
do, the codehaus announcement states:

"JIRA: Projects should migrate their issues to another JIRA using the CSV
export features of JIRA - it will not be possible to do a bulk migration
for security and privacy reasons (due to how the user model works). "

Also, the users are centrally managed by Codehaus, so I have doubts they
will give us
mail addresses and the like... hum... although as an admin I can get to a
users mail
by clicking on its name in a ticket.
So maybe with some scripting?

- How many users are there?
- Will we manage user accounts in the new system?
- What process do we have to allow users to claim accounts?
- How do we coordinate this management with other projects, such as
GeoTools?

Do you think anything of the above is even feasible? Not sure what we can
get in terms of
information from a CSV export... the other alternative is I guess to write
a tool that uses
the JIra services to export all we need in json, but it will require some
programming I guess...

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Just throwing a very small 1c in here. I would be very much in favour of sticking with jira, hosted elsewhere rather than github bug tracking. I have found github hopelessly inadequate compared to jira.

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Phil, at this morning's committee meeting there was strong support for staying with Jira if at all possible. GitHub issue tracking is a distant third-best option only. In particular, lack of support for attachments is a show stopper. Kind regards, Ben.

On 04/03/15 08:56, Phil Scadden wrote:

Just throwing a very small 1c in here.

No longer legal tender in NZ. :slight_smile:

I would be very much in favour of
sticking with jira, hosted elsewhere rather than github bug tracking. I
have found github hopelessly inadequate compared to jira.

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Update from: http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1478

···

Initial feedback is:

a) new hardware is on the way
b) Can the PSC provide (or volunteer) as sys admin for Jira?
b) write requirements http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Transition_Plan_2014

I have started a conversation on the SAC email list.