[Geoserver-devel] Dropping the oracle jdbc jar from the Oracle package

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Hi,
I’m writing to suggest we drop the old jdbc jar we are shipping with the Oracle plugin.

Theoretically, we should not do it anyways, it’s just that back then we got a verbal confirmation
from an Oracle employee that is was fine to add it in our plugin.

But the driver is now very old, so unless we have fresh contacts with Oracle on the matter of
redistribution, I’d say we should do just like with SqlServer and SDE, and tell people where
to fetch the driver instead

Opinions?

Cheers
Andrea

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The Oracle license states that it is not permitted to redistribute the ojdbc jar by itself, but explicitly permitted to redistribute bundled with software that uses it (and the GeoServer oracle plugin would seem to meet this criterion).

However, we cannot comply with the export control provisions of the license (silly Oracle overreach as they are applying specific US rules on (e.g.) cryptography to *all* their software):
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/distribution-license-152002.html

Redistribution is fine, export controls are not, +1 to drop.

We should document which version we test against to guide users.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/03/15 09:48, Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
I'm writing to suggest we drop the old jdbc jar we are shipping with the
Oracle plugin.

Theoretically, we should not do it anyways, it's just that back then we got
a verbal confirmation
from an Oracle employee that is was fine to add it in our plugin.

But the driver is now very old, so unless we have fresh contacts with
Oracle on the matter of
redistribution, I'd say we should do just like with SqlServer and SDE, and
tell people where
to fetch the driver instead

Opinions?

Cheers
Andrea

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Hi,

There should also be a Accept license box. BTW. what do you like about this part of the license:
"You may not:
- disclose results of any program benchmark tests without our prior consent."

I have liked how easy it is to install the Oracle plugin simply by unzipping but still

+1 to drop.

-Jukka Rahkonen-
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Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

The Oracle license states that it is not permitted to redistribute the
ojdbc jar by itself, but explicitly permitted to redistribute bundled
with software that uses it (and the GeoServer oracle plugin would seem
to meet this criterion).

However, we cannot comply with the export control provisions of the
license (silly Oracle overreach as they are applying specific US rules
on (e.g.) cryptography to *all* their software):
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/distribution-license-152002.html

Redistribution is fine, export controls are not, +1 to drop.

We should document which version we test against to guide users.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/03/15 09:48, Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
I'm writing to suggest we drop the old jdbc jar we are shipping with the
Oracle plugin.

Theoretically, we should not do it anyways, it's just that back then we got
a verbal confirmation
from an Oracle employee that is was fine to add it in our plugin.

But the driver is now very old, so unless we have fresh contacts with
Oracle on the matter of
redistribution, I'd say we should do just like with SqlServer and SDE, and
tell people where
to fetch the driver instead

Opinions?

Cheers
Andrea

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Hi all,
here is the pull request:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/1072

Since we are starting to receive bug reports caused by the old driver not being
fully compatible with the Oracle store anymore, I’d be happy if we could merge
this pull request before tomorrow’s 2.7.1 release (no code changes).

Cheers
Andrea

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On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

There should also be a Accept license box. BTW. what do you like about this part of the license:
"You may not:

  • disclose results of any program benchmark tests without our prior consent."

I have liked how easy it is to install the Oracle plugin simply by unzipping but still

+1 to drop.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

The Oracle license states that it is not permitted to redistribute the
ojdbc jar by itself, but explicitly permitted to redistribute bundled
with software that uses it (and the GeoServer oracle plugin would seem
to meet this criterion).

However, we cannot comply with the export control provisions of the
license (silly Oracle overreach as they are applying specific US rules
on (e.g.) cryptography to all their software):
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/distribution-license-152002.html

Redistribution is fine, export controls are not, +1 to drop.

We should document which version we test against to guide users.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/03/15 09:48, Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
I’m writing to suggest we drop the old jdbc jar we are shipping with the
Oracle plugin.

Theoretically, we should not do it anyways, it’s just that back then we got
a verbal confirmation
from an Oracle employee that is was fine to add it in our plugin.

But the driver is now very old, so unless we have fresh contacts with
Oracle on the matter of
redistribution, I’d say we should do just like with SqlServer and SDE, and
tell people where
to fetch the driver instead

Opinions?

Cheers
Andrea

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
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