[Geoserver-devel] GeoServer and GeoTools releases temporary out of synch

Hi,
with the “time boxed” release model proposal it was stressed how important it is
to have synched up releases (since GeoServer needs to make a GeoTools release anyways
when doing its own and that has the benefit of making Geotools frequent releases).

However, now we have GS 2.2-RC2 and GT 8.0 out.
What happens for GS 2.2-RC3? Are we going to release GT 8.1 after just 15 days
of the last release? That seems a bit extreme to me.
And what if we have to make another RC for some reason, 8.2 after another two weeks?
Bleck…

Right now there are handful of issues resolved after 8.0:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+GEOT+AND+fixVersion+%3D+18691+AND+status+%3D+Resolved

I guess we can try to just tag and deploy, but not release on SF, calling the tag
something like 8.0-GS-2.2-RC3

Maybe next time we should try to pay attention and synch up the finals of each
better

Cheers
Andrea

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8.0.1 seems reasonable to me? Doesn’t feel extreme after 15 days, and represents some minor improvements/fixes. And doesn’t make us do some weird geoserver specific tag.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
with the “time boxed” release model proposal it was stressed how important it is
to have synched up releases (since GeoServer needs to make a GeoTools release anyways
when doing its own and that has the benefit of making Geotools frequent releases).

However, now we have GS 2.2-RC2 and GT 8.0 out.
What happens for GS 2.2-RC3? Are we going to release GT 8.1 after just 15 days
of the last release? That seems a bit extreme to me.
And what if we have to make another RC for some reason, 8.2 after another two weeks?
Bleck…

Right now there are handful of issues resolved after 8.0:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+GEOT+AND+fixVersion+%3D+18691+AND+status+%3D+Resolved

I guess we can try to just tag and deploy, but not release on SF, calling the tag
something like 8.0-GS-2.2-RC3

Maybe next time we should try to pay attention and synch up the finals of each
better

Cheers
Andrea

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On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Chris Holmes <cholmes@anonymised.com> wrote:

8.0.1 seems reasonable to me? Doesn’t feel extreme after 15 days, and represents some minor improvements/fixes. And doesn’t make us do some weird geoserver specific tag.

Maybe? The thing is, with the new numbering system we were supposed to
have 8.0, 8.1, 8.2 as the patch releases, the next major (in six months or so) will be 9.0

But yeah, I can go for 8.0.1 too

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I actually don’t see upping the minor version number as such a big issue… especially given that now with this new system the life of a major version numbers is much shorter (6 months). If folks don’t like a new minor version number than i agree with Chris let’s just up the patch number.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Chris Holmes <cholmes@anonymised.com> wrote:

8.0.1 seems reasonable to me? Doesn’t feel extreme after 15 days, and represents some minor improvements/fixes. And doesn’t make us do some weird geoserver specific tag.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
with the “time boxed” release model proposal it was stressed how important it is
to have synched up releases (since GeoServer needs to make a GeoTools release anyways
when doing its own and that has the benefit of making Geotools frequent releases).

However, now we have GS 2.2-RC2 and GT 8.0 out.
What happens for GS 2.2-RC3? Are we going to release GT 8.1 after just 15 days
of the last release? That seems a bit extreme to me.
And what if we have to make another RC for some reason, 8.2 after another two weeks?
Bleck…

Right now there are handful of issues resolved after 8.0:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+GEOT+AND+fixVersion+%3D+18691+AND+status+%3D+Resolved

I guess we can try to just tag and deploy, but not release on SF, calling the tag
something like 8.0-GS-2.2-RC3

Maybe next time we should try to pay attention and synch up the finals of each
better

Cheers
Andrea

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I would just handle this with our head up, if it really is just a patch with bug fixes in it then we up the patch.
If we have back ported new functionality, or additional API, then a point release is warranted.

Jody Garnett

On Thursday, 16 August 2012 at 3:35 AM, Justin Deoliveira wrote:

I actually don’t see upping the minor version number as such a big issue… especially given that now with this new system the life of a major version numbers is much shorter (6 months). If folks don’t like a new minor version number than i agree with Chris let’s just up the patch number.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Chris Holmes <cholmes@anonymised.com…> wrote:

8.0.1 seems reasonable to me? Doesn’t feel extreme after 15 days, and represents some minor improvements/fixes. And doesn’t make us do some weird geoserver specific tag.

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
with the “time boxed” release model proposal it was stressed how important it is
to have synched up releases (since GeoServer needs to make a GeoTools release anyways
when doing its own and that has the benefit of making Geotools frequent releases).

However, now we have GS 2.2-RC2 and GT 8.0 out.
What happens for GS 2.2-RC3? Are we going to release GT 8.1 after just 15 days
of the last release? That seems a bit extreme to me.
And what if we have to make another RC for some reason, 8.2 after another two weeks?
Bleck…

Right now there are handful of issues resolved after 8.0:
http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&jqlQuery=project+%3D+GEOT+AND+fixVersion+%3D+18691+AND+status+%3D+Resolved

I guess we can try to just tag and deploy, but not release on SF, calling the tag
something like 8.0-GS-2.2-RC3

Maybe next time we should try to pay attention and synch up the finals of each
better

Cheers
Andrea

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

I would just handle this with our head up, if it really is just a patch with bug fixes in it then we up the patch.
If we have back ported new functionality, or additional API, then a point release is warranted.

Mind, with the “time boxed releases” proposal approved we don’t do releases based on contents
anymore, so the fact that there is new functionality is not relevant for a point release.
The only worry I have is that we’re going to make 8.1 after just 15 days from 8.0 instead of a month,
that’s all

Cheers
Andrea

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And the idea is that two minor releases in one month is too much?

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com.> wrote:

I would just handle this with our head up, if it really is just a patch with bug fixes in it then we up the patch.
If we have back ported new functionality, or additional API, then a point release is warranted.

Mind, with the “time boxed releases” proposal approved we don’t do releases based on contents
anymore, so the fact that there is new functionality is not relevant for a point release.
The only worry I have is that we’re going to make 8.1 after just 15 days from 8.0 instead of a month,
that’s all

Cheers

Andrea

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

And the idea is that two minor releases in one month is too much?

Seemed like a bit too much, but if no one else is concerned about it I’m a go for it too :slight_smile:

Cheers
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Yeah, no concern here, I’m +1 to just go for it with 8.1. My 8.0.1 was just an alternate suggestion, I’m definitely good with 8.1.

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

And the idea is that two minor releases in one month is too much?

Seemed like a bit too much, but if no one else is concerned about it I’m a go for it too :slight_smile:

Cheers

Andrea

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+1. Waiting to synchronise major releases may have in the past been an impediment to regular releases. A bit more wiggle room will help.

On 16/08/12 01:30, Chris Holmes wrote:

8.0.1 seems reasonable to me? Doesn't feel extreme after 15 days, and
represents some minor improvements/fixes. And doesn't make us do some
weird geoserver specific tag.

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