[Geoserver-devel] GeoServer imageio and GDAL 2.0.x

GDAL has had a 2.0.x release for quite a while now. The current GeoServer GDAL extension is most tested with the GDAL 1.9.2 bindings.

Has anyone tested GeoServer imageio and the GeoServer GDAL extension with the GDAL 2.0.x binaries?

Is there any likelyhood of supporting GDAL 2.0.x in the near future?

Thanks,

Torben

Dear Torben,
I just talked to Daniele about this; we have not done any tests yet
with GDAL 2.0 but we are planning to update the imageio-ext builds to
1.11.x as there are a few bugs that are bothering us.

Do you want to help with the direct jump to 2.x?

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

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GDAL has had a 2.0.x release for quite a while now. The current GeoServer
GDAL extension is most tested with the GDAL 1.9.2 bindings.

Has anyone tested GeoServer imageio and the GeoServer GDAL extension with
the GDAL 2.0.x binaries?

Is there any likelyhood of supporting GDAL 2.0.x in the near future?

Thanks,

Torben

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Hi, Simone,

Another Boundless person (Amiram) used GDAL 2 with imageio-ext for a project. Unfortunately, they only tested the MrSid and DTED formats (include DTED as a WCS output). He indicated (for CentOS 7) to use SWIG 1.3 instead of 2.0 (included in centos7). I’ll let him comment further.

I am pretty sure I can allocate some of torben’s time to this. How much work is this expected to be?

Thanks a lot,
Dave

···

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Dear Torben,
I just talked to Daniele about this; we have not done any tests yet
with GDAL 2.0 but we are planning to update the imageio-ext builds to
1.11.x as there are a few bugs that are bothering us.

Do you want to help with the direct jump to 2.x?

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

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GDAL has had a 2.0.x release for quite a while now. The current GeoServer
GDAL extension is most tested with the GDAL 1.9.2 bindings.

Has anyone tested GeoServer imageio and the GeoServer GDAL extension with
the GDAL 2.0.x binaries?

Is there any likelyhood of supporting GDAL 2.0.x in the near future?

Thanks,

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Le lundi 04 avril 2016 19:29:49, Dave Blasby a écrit :

Hi, Simone,

Another Boundless person (Amiram) used GDAL 2 with imageio-ext for a
project. Unfortunately, they only tested the MrSid and DTED formats
(include DTED as a WCS output). He indicated (for CentOS 7) to use SWIG
1.3 instead of 2.0 (included in centos7).

2.0 can be used, but the key is to use the same swig version (at least major
number) to generate the .jar and the native .cpp files.

I'll let him comment further.

I am pretty sure I can allocate some of torben's time to this. How much
work is this expected to be?

Thanks a lot,
Dave

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Simone Giannecchini <

simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:
> Dear Torben,
> I just talked to Daniele about this; we have not done any tests yet
> with GDAL 2.0 but we are planning to update the imageio-ext builds to
> 1.11.x as there are a few bugs that are bothering us.
>
> Do you want to help with the direct jump to 2.x?
>
>
> Regards,
> Simone Giannecchini
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> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:27 AM, Torben Barsballe
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> > GDAL has had a 2.0.x release for quite a while now. The current
> > GeoServer GDAL extension is most tested with the GDAL 1.9.2 bindings.
> >
> > Has anyone tested GeoServer imageio and the GeoServer GDAL extension
> > with the GDAL 2.0.x binaries?
> >
> > Is there any likelyhood of supporting GDAL 2.0.x in the near future?
> >
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Even,

That sounds very promising - thanks for your message. Did you run into any problems? Did you have a chance to do much testing?

Thanks,
Dave

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Even Rouault <even.rouault@anonymised.com…> wrote:

Le lundi 04 avril 2016 19:29:49, Dave Blasby a écrit :

Hi, Simone,

Another Boundless person (Amiram) used GDAL 2 with imageio-ext for a
project. Unfortunately, they only tested the MrSid and DTED formats
(include DTED as a WCS output). He indicated (for CentOS 7) to use SWIG
1.3 instead of 2.0 (included in centos7).

2.0 can be used, but the key is to use the same swig version (at least major
number) to generate the .jar and the native .cpp files.

I’ll let him comment further.

I am pretty sure I can allocate some of torben’s time to this. How much
work is this expected to be?

Thanks a lot,
Dave

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Simone Giannecchini <

simone.giannecchini@…1268…> wrote:

Dear Torben,
I just talked to Daniele about this; we have not done any tests yet
with GDAL 2.0 but we are planning to update the imageio-ext builds to
1.11.x as there are a few bugs that are bothering us.

Do you want to help with the direct jump to 2.x?

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

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<tbarsballe@anonymised.com.> wrote:

GDAL has had a 2.0.x release for quite a while now. The current
GeoServer GDAL extension is most tested with the GDAL 1.9.2 bindings.

Has anyone tested GeoServer imageio and the GeoServer GDAL extension
with the GDAL 2.0.x binaries?

Is there any likelyhood of supporting GDAL 2.0.x in the near future?

Thanks,

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Even Rouault <even.rouault@anonymised.com>
wrote:

2.0 can be used, but the key is to use the same swig version (at least
major
number) to generate the .jar and the native .cpp files.

Hi Even,
thanks for pitching in, we can really use your opinion.

Unlike CGI based servers we have a higher bar for production use, as
a single segfault will take down the entire server (even with watchdogs
restarting
it, that will mean minutes with no service at all).
Under our normal operation conditions the process will stay up for
days/weeks/months, meaning we're also quite sensible to any form of memory
leak, and of
course it means for all that time GDAL will be under multithreaded load for
all that time.

So far recent releases of GDAL 1.x have worked well, but if I understand
correctly,
GDAL 2.0 has been a significant refactor. Do you know of any other project
that
has already used GDAL 2.x in anger under conditions similar to GeoServer
ones?

Cheers
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Le mardi 05 avril 2016 08:39:29, Andrea Aime a écrit :

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Even Rouault <even.rouault@anonymised.com>

wrote:
> 2.0 can be used, but the key is to use the same swig version (at least
> major
> number) to generate the .jar and the native .cpp files.

Hi Even,
thanks for pitching in, we can really use your opinion.

Unlike CGI based servers we have a higher bar for production use, as
a single segfault will take down the entire server (even with watchdogs
restarting
it, that will mean minutes with no service at all).
Under our normal operation conditions the process will stay up for
days/weeks/months, meaning we're also quite sensible to any form of memory
leak, and of
course it means for all that time GDAL will be under multithreaded load for
all that time.

So far recent releases of GDAL 1.x have worked well, but if I understand
correctly,
GDAL 2.0 has been a significant refactor.

More on the OGR side. Some overview at
https://svn.osgeo.org/gdal/branches/2.0/gdal/MIGRATION_GUIDE.TXT

Do you know of any other project
that
has already used GDAL 2.x in anger under conditions similar to GeoServer
ones?

Not really, but as often with OS projects, people only communicate when things
don't work :wink:
That said, multithreaded use of GDAL is OK when reading from raster datasets
(with some care when dealing with VRT : see "Multi-threading issues" at end of
VRT -- GDAL Virtual Format — GDAL documentation).
But they are currently design limitations in the global raster block cache
that make multithreaded raster writing unsafe (true for any GDAL version in
1.X or 2.X series)

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Hi Andrea,

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On 5 April 2016 at 07:39, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com268…> wrote:

FWIW we’ve been using 2.0 in anger since well before it was released, and have had no issues, including using it in long-running processes. (But not via JNI)

The 1.11->2.0 didn’t actually change internal code/behaviour significantly (that was a key design goal behind the driver unification), mostly it was refactoring, some small breaking API changes, and setting up for future work on the format drivers.

Rob :slight_smile:

So far recent releases of GDAL 1.x have worked well, but if I understand correctly,
GDAL 2.0 has been a significant refactor. Do you know of any other project that
has already used GDAL 2.x in anger under conditions similar to GeoServer ones?

Dear Dave,
back onto the original topics.

Can we get a bit more experience from Amiram? Was it a drop in
replacement?lso to understand the effort in
I guess the point is also to understand how much it would be to do the switch.

1.9.x would be only a matter of rebuilding/packaging for the various
platform, hence I am keen on it (plus stability)

Regards,
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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Dave Blasby <dblasby@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi, Simone,

Another Boundless person (Amiram) used GDAL 2 with imageio-ext for a
project. Unfortunately, they only tested the MrSid and DTED formats
(include DTED as a WCS output). He indicated (for CentOS 7) to use SWIG 1.3
instead of 2.0 (included in centos7). I'll let him comment further.

I am pretty sure I can allocate some of torben's time to this. How much
work is this expected to be?

Thanks a lot,
Dave

On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Simone Giannecchini
<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Dear Torben,
I just talked to Daniele about this; we have not done any tests yet
with GDAL 2.0 but we are planning to update the imageio-ext builds to
1.11.x as there are a few bugs that are bothering us.

Do you want to help with the direct jump to 2.x?

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

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> GDAL has had a 2.0.x release for quite a while now. The current
> GeoServer
> GDAL extension is most tested with the GDAL 1.9.2 bindings.
>
> Has anyone tested GeoServer imageio and the GeoServer GDAL extension
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Hi Even and Robert,
thanks for sharing, it is comforting.

Seems like a good upgrade for GeoServer 2.10, if done soon, we’d also have plenty
of time to verify its stability with some load test.

Cheers
Andrea

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On Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:52 AM, Robert Coup <robert.coup@…1454…> wrote:

Hi Andrea,

On 5 April 2016 at 07:39, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

FWIW we’ve been using 2.0 in anger since well before it was released, and have had no issues, including using it in long-running processes. (But not via JNI)

The 1.11->2.0 didn’t actually change internal code/behaviour significantly (that was a key design goal behind the driver unification), mostly it was refactoring, some small breaking API changes, and setting up for future work on the format drivers.

Rob :slight_smile:

So far recent releases of GDAL 1.x have worked well, but if I understand correctly,
GDAL 2.0 has been a significant refactor. Do you know of any other project that
has already used GDAL 2.x in anger under conditions similar to GeoServer ones?

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Hi Simone,

We have been using GDAL 2.0 in several of our projects in production for the past 3 months or so without an issue, this is with Geoserver 2.8.x.

However, and as Dave mentioned, this was only tested with MrSID and DTED (DTED was also used for WCS output).

We’ve been using it on RHEL and it’s derivatives (CentOS 6/7, Oracle Linux, Amazon Linux).

In terms of effort there are a couple of routes forward:

  1. Use the current bindings but add more tests with GDAL 2. To tests a wider range of formats. This is the easiest and probably requires the least effort, but it has the limitations of using the old 1.9 bindings, as well as being limited to SWIG 1.3. This means there will have to be support of GDAL 2 builds for CentOS/RHEL 7 with SWIG1.3, as well as possibly for 6 and Ubuntu 14/15/16. ( I am not sure which version of SWIG Ubuntu supports by default)

  2. Upgrade the extension to GDAL 2.0.x and build the extension with both SWIG 2.x and SWIG 1.3 support (One build with 1.3 the other with 2.x). This will pretty much include all the testing from option 1 and add testing for the two separate builds of the GDAL extension.

Possibly a combination of both makes sense.

Thanks,

Ami.

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Dear Dave,
back onto the original topics.

Can we get a bit more experience from Amiram? Was it a drop in
replacement?lso to understand the effort in
I guess the point is also to understand how much it would be to do the switch.

1.9.x would be only a matter of rebuilding/packaging for the various
platform, hence I am keen on it (plus stability)

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On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Dave Blasby dblasby@anonymised.com wrote:

Hi, Simone,

Another Boundless person (Amiram) used GDAL 2 with imageio-ext for a
project. Unfortunately, they only tested the MrSid and DTED formats
(include DTED as a WCS output). He indicated (for CentOS 7) to use SWIG 1.3
instead of 2.0 (included in centos7). I’ll let him comment further.

I am pretty sure I can allocate some of torben’s time to this. How much
work is this expected to be?

Thanks a lot,
Dave

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Dear Torben,
I just talked to Daniele about this; we have not done any tests yet
with GDAL 2.0 but we are planning to update the imageio-ext builds to
1.11.x as there are a few bugs that are bothering us.

Do you want to help with the direct jump to 2.x?

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GDAL has had a 2.0.x release for quite a while now. The current
GeoServer
GDAL extension is most tested with the GDAL 1.9.2 bindings.

Has anyone tested GeoServer imageio and the GeoServer GDAL extension
with
the GDAL 2.0.x binaries?

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Thanks,

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