Hi,
I was remembering this ticket https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7488 and it seems that Tanukisoftware does not offer Windows 64 wrapper in the community version. So I guess that the GeoNetwork installer is using some other wrapper.
I believe that having 64 bit only is OK. Is there anything that won’t work with that? Some native JAI things perhaps, or?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
···
Lähettäjä: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@…2488…>
Lähetetty: maanantai 15. helmikuuta 2021 9.20
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@…403…>
Kopio: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@…4189…>; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>; GeoServer geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
It’s actually the opposite: the GeoNetwork installer requires 64-bits Java. But if I recall correctly, the wrapper supports both, so in theory we can build 32 and 64-bits installers, if needed.
Sander Schaminee
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:12 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@…403…> wrote:
Jukka:
I am not sure Jukka, one of my co-workers Sander (CCed) worked on the geonetwork one and can answer your question.
–
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 02:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@…4189…> wrote:
Hi,
Would the new installer still requite 32 bit java because of the wrapper?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Yes, exactly, the Tanuki one was preferable, but not available on Windows 64-bits in this case. So I decided to use the Java Service Launcher which is super easy to set up and free to use for everyone (and I haven’t had any trouble with it yet).
I can’t tell if 32-bits is no longer required. Are there some user statistics for that?
Sander
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:09 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was remembering this ticket https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7488 and it seems that Tanukisoftware does not offer Windows 64 wrapper in the community version. So I guess that the GeoNetwork installer is using some other wrapper.
I believe that having 64 bit only is OK. Is there anything that won’t work with that? Some native JAI things perhaps, or?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Lähettäjä: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com>
Lähetetty: maanantai 15. helmikuuta 2021 9.20
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
Kopio: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com>; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>; GeoServer <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
It’s actually the opposite: the GeoNetwork installer requires 64-bits Java. But if I recall correctly, the wrapper supports both, so in theory we can build 32 and 64-bits installers, if needed.
Sander Schaminee
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:12 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
Jukka:
I am not sure Jukka, one of my co-workers Sander (CCed) worked on the geonetwork one and can answer your question.
–
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 02:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
Would the new installer still requite 32 bit java because of the wrapper?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Coming back to the wrapper, this one might be more robust/reliable: https://sourceforge.net/projects/wrapper/
I’d be happy to use that instead or whatever wrapper works best (and fits the license).
Sander
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:09 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was remembering this ticket https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7488 and it seems that Tanukisoftware does not offer Windows 64 wrapper in the community version. So I guess that the GeoNetwork installer is using some other wrapper.
I believe that having 64 bit only is OK. Is there anything that won’t work with that? Some native JAI things perhaps, or?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Lähettäjä: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com>
Lähetetty: maanantai 15. helmikuuta 2021 9.20
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
Kopio: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com>; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>; GeoServer <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
It’s actually the opposite: the GeoNetwork installer requires 64-bits Java. But if I recall correctly, the wrapper supports both, so in theory we can build 32 and 64-bits installers, if needed.
Sander Schaminee
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:12 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
Jukka:
I am not sure Jukka, one of my co-workers Sander (CCed) worked on the geonetwork one and can answer your question.
–
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 02:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
Would the new installer still requite 32 bit java because of the wrapper?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
I’m sorry, that actually is the Tanuki one. I had trouble finding a wrapper that was not Tanuki…
But still, if there’s something better, please let me know.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:24 AM Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com> wrote:
Coming back to the wrapper, this one might be more robust/reliable: https://sourceforge.net/projects/wrapper/
I’d be happy to use that instead or whatever wrapper works best (and fits the license).
Sander
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:09 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com…> wrote:
Hi,
I was remembering this ticket https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7488 and it seems that Tanukisoftware does not offer Windows 64 wrapper in the community version. So I guess that the GeoNetwork installer is using some other wrapper.
I believe that having 64 bit only is OK. Is there anything that won’t work with that? Some native JAI things perhaps, or?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Lähettäjä: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com>
Lähetetty: maanantai 15. helmikuuta 2021 9.20
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
Kopio: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com>; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>; GeoServer <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
It’s actually the opposite: the GeoNetwork installer requires 64-bits Java. But if I recall correctly, the wrapper supports both, so in theory we can build 32 and 64-bits installers, if needed.
Sander Schaminee
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:12 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
Jukka:
I am not sure Jukka, one of my co-workers Sander (CCed) worked on the geonetwork one and can answer your question.
–
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 02:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
Would the new installer still requite 32 bit java because of the wrapper?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Sorry for the mail bombardment, but I remember I also tried out YAJSW. However, that one wasn’t so easy to set up and I wasn’t able to get it to work within the available time. If there’s someone who’s more into Java than I am and could assist me, I’d be happy to give this one another try.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:26 AM Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com> wrote:
I’m sorry, that actually is the Tanuki one. I had trouble finding a wrapper that was not Tanuki…
But still, if there’s something better, please let me know.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:24 AM Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com> wrote:
Coming back to the wrapper, this one might be more robust/reliable: https://sourceforge.net/projects/wrapper/
I’d be happy to use that instead or whatever wrapper works best (and fits the license).
Sander
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:09 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was remembering this ticket https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7488 and it seems that Tanukisoftware does not offer Windows 64 wrapper in the community version. So I guess that the GeoNetwork installer is using some other wrapper.
I believe that having 64 bit only is OK. Is there anything that won’t work with that? Some native JAI things perhaps, or?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Lähettäjä: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com>
Lähetetty: maanantai 15. helmikuuta 2021 9.20
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
Kopio: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com>; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>; GeoServer <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
It’s actually the opposite: the GeoNetwork installer requires 64-bits Java. But if I recall correctly, the wrapper supports both, so in theory we can build 32 and 64-bits installers, if needed.
Sander Schaminee
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:12 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
Jukka:
I am not sure Jukka, one of my co-workers Sander (CCed) worked on the geonetwork one and can answer your question.
–
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 02:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
Would the new installer still requite 32 bit java because of the wrapper?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Hi Sander,
I don’t have a straight suggestion to try out, but I was thinking, Tomcat seems to have a good windows installer, with service support and
(I believe) 64 bit support.
The Ant build file has some references:
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/blob/master/build.xml#L2181 (and more, search for Windows in it)
I have the impression they are using this project:
https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/
Cheers
Andrea
···
Regards, Andrea Aime
== GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it ------------------------------------------------------- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail.
Ah, that said, if GeoNetwork already has a working solution for 64bit Windows, why not use it directly?
I guess it would also allow sharing some of the maintenance.
Cheers
Andrea
···
Regards, Andrea Aime
== GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it ------------------------------------------------------- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail.
Indeed, GeoNetwork already uses the JSL for the 64-bit Windows installer. There’s not too much code that can be shared when it comes to that part though.
It’s just a DLL and a minimal configuration file, if I recall correctly. But of course, we can reuse that for GeoServer as well.
The Apache Commons Daemon (ACD) you mentioned that Tomcat seems to be using does not seem to be much more advanced than the JSL, looking at this comparison chart:
http://yajsw.sourceforge.net/#mozTocId284533
So if there’s a need for a better wrapper than JSL, I believe we really should check out this YAJSW, as it seems the most robust (it basically is a re-implementation of the Tanuki wrapper).
At least both GeoNetwork and GeoServer would be able to profit from it now.
Sander
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:44 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:
Ah, that said, if GeoNetwork already has a working solution for 64bit Windows, why not use it directly?
I guess it would also allow sharing some of the maintenance.
Cheers
Andrea
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:39 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Sander,
I don’t have a straight suggestion to try out, but I was thinking, Tomcat seems to have a good windows installer, with service support and
(I believe) 64 bit support.
The Ant build file has some references:
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/blob/master/build.xml#L2181 (and more, search for Windows in it)
I have the impression they are using this project:
https://commons.apache.org/proper/commons-daemon/
Cheers
Andrea
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:27 AM Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com488…> wrote:
I’m sorry, that actually is the Tanuki one. I had trouble finding a wrapper that was not Tanuki…
But still, if there’s something better, please let me know.
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:24 AM Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com> wrote:
Coming back to the wrapper, this one might be more robust/reliable: https://sourceforge.net/projects/wrapper/
I’d be happy to use that instead or whatever wrapper works best (and fits the license).
Sander
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:09 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
I was remembering this ticket https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7488 and it seems that Tanukisoftware does not offer Windows 64 wrapper in the community version. So I guess that the GeoNetwork installer is using some other wrapper.
I believe that having 64 bit only is OK. Is there anything that won’t work with that? Some native JAI things perhaps, or?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Lähettäjä: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@anonymised.com>
Lähetetty: maanantai 15. helmikuuta 2021 9.20
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
Kopio: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com>; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>; GeoServer <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
It’s actually the opposite: the GeoNetwork installer requires 64-bits Java. But if I recall correctly, the wrapper supports both, so in theory we can build 32 and 64-bits installers, if needed.
Sander Schaminee
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:12 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
Jukka:
I am not sure Jukka, one of my co-workers Sander (CCed) worked on the geonetwork one and can answer your question.
–
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 02:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
Would the new installer still requite 32 bit java because of the wrapper?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
–
Regards, Andrea Aime
== GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it ------------------------------------------------------- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail.
–
Regards, Andrea Aime
== GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it ------------------------------------------------------- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail.
We use the 32-bit service in Windows, because there’s nothing else available (as we only host some WFS services, 32bit isn’t a problem).
But 64-bit only would also not be a problem as the OS itself is 64-bit…
We’ll just have to use a 64bit Java runtime instead of the 32-bit now 
Regards,
Ronald Hoek
Application Developer
ronald.hoek@…5024…
![email-ca-logo.png]()
![email-groene-balk]()
(attachments)
···
The information in this e-mail message, including any files sent with it, is exclusively intended for the addressee. Disclosure to third parties in whatever form, is only permitted with permission from ComponentAgro. If you receive this message but you are not the addressee of this e-mail, then you must permanently delete the message from your system and files.
Van: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@…2488…>
Verzonden: maandag 15 februari 2021 09:24
Aan: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@…4189…>
CC: GeoServer geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>
Onderwerp: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
Coming back to the wrapper, this one might be more robust/reliable: https://sourceforge.net/projects/wrapper/
I’d be happy to use that instead or whatever wrapper works best (and fits the license).
Sander
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 9:09 AM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@…4189…> wrote:
Hi,
I was remembering this ticket https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7488 and it seems that Tanukisoftware does not offer Windows 64 wrapper in the community version. So I guess that the GeoNetwork installer is using some other wrapper.
I believe that having 64 bit only is OK. Is there anything that won’t work with that? Some native JAI things perhaps, or?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
Lähettäjä: Sander Schaminee <sander.schaminee@…2488…>
Lähetetty: maanantai 15. helmikuuta 2021 9.20
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@…403…>
Kopio: Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@…4189…>; Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…>; GeoServer <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] geoserver windows installer questions
It’s actually the opposite: the GeoNetwork installer requires 64-bits Java. But if I recall correctly, the wrapper supports both, so in theory we can build 32 and 64-bits installers, if needed.
Sander Schaminee
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, 08:12 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@…403…> wrote:
Jukka:
I am not sure Jukka, one of my co-workers Sander (CCed) worked on the geonetwork one and can answer your question.
–
Jody Garnett
On Sun, 14 Feb 2021 at 02:24, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@…4189…> wrote:
Hi,
Would the new installer still requite 32 bit java because of the wrapper?
-Jukka Rahkonen-