[Geoserver-devel] GeoTools / GeoServer Meeting 2013-12-10

GeoTools / GeoServer Meeting 2013-12-10

Attending
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Ben Caradoc-Davies
Alessio Fabiani
Andrea Aime
Jody Garnett
Justin Deoliveira
Jukka Rahkonen
Observer: Tuure Laurinolli

Agenda
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1) Friday Sprint
2) Release/Development Schedule (Hardening, etc...)
3) Dec 18 release
4) GeoServer Synchronisation Module Request
5) Importer module, moving on
6) Default dimension value
7) Discussion

Action item
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* AA: fetch a list of "easy" to fix bugs
* Ask for a better description of the sync module

1) Friday Sprint
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Participants:
- Andrea, Simone
- Ben with some overlap (WFS 2.0 filter example)
- Jody - rendering/styling bugs
- Jukka - docs and debugging fiddler/poster

Meeting on IRC, skype if voice conversation needed/useful

Ben to invite Rini

2) Release/Development Schedule (Hardening, etc...)
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http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/GeoTools+and+GeoServer+release+schedule

http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/GSIP+77+-+Time+boxed+release+model

3) Dec 18 release
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Q: Feature freeze when?
A: Jan 18th beta

4) GeoServer Synchronisation Module Request
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We are all a bit a confused about what the community module does, and how does the client interact with it.

Q: Protocol used by clients?
Q: Similar to GeoGit? Perhaps they are looking at "near realtime".

Email sent to set expectations, wait for response back? Need to encourage email discussion as we don't have a mentor to help get them started.

Importer module, moving on
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Q: Can we make it an extension?

Was waiting for testing, looks it has seen some action now.

Q: Can others start working on it?

Yes, Justin did not mean to give the impression the that others were locked out :slight_smile:

Work ideas:
- exception in GeoTIFF import test

Q: Docs?
- still a task to port some docs to user guide

Idea:
- import sidecar SLD file

Default dimension value
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https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/377

- time: latest
- elevation: lowest
- custom: first value

Q: Why not default to "all"?
A: That is is not what dimensions are about

Q: Does GetCapabilities advertise this default?
A: It should ... not sure yet

Q: Do we need a RFC for this one?
A: Can probably get away with as master is still open for RnD

Discussion
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http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/GEOS-6213 Image Enhancement ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException

Q: Is this a regression?
A: GeoSolutions only ever used single banded images

Q: Whitespace with CSS and SLD?
A: Use CDATA or whitespace will be ignored

Q: Fork CSS module?
A: We would like David back as maintainer, but if he is no longer maintaining then perhaps we should fork code into Geotools organization and release from there.

Q: Where? GeoServer organisation, or GeoTools?
A: GeoTools is a better fit license wise and level of detail

Q: Where is David! We miss him...

Q: Can we move this page to Data (rather then a top level demo page)

Q: Next meeting: January 7th 2014
Happy new year everybody :slight_smile:

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Ben Caradoc-Davies <Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com>
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre

Q: Fork CSS module?
A: We would like David back as maintainer, but if he is no longer maintaining then perhaps we should fork code into Geotools organization and release from there.

Q: Where? GeoServer organisation, or GeoTools?
A: GeoTools is a better fit license wise and level of detail

Q: Where is David! We miss him…

Q: Can we move this page to Data (rather then a top level demo page)

I was able to catch David briefly today and ask him to check email. Importantly it does look as if the CSS functionality can be split out of the GeoScript module. GeoScript makes use of it (rather than the other way around). With that in mind it will make more sense to factor out the CSS functionality into the GeoTools organisation, given its MIT license.

Alternatively a GeoScript organisation could be set up to hold all three projects, and the CSS functionality factored out under a clear project banner / MIT license.

Jody

  1. Friday Sprint

Participants:

  • Andrea, Simone
  • Ben with some overlap (WFS 2.0 filter example)
  • Jody - rendering/styling bugs
  • Jukka - docs and debugging fiddler/poster

Meeting on IRC, skype if voice conversation needed/useful

Andrea I have started a wiki page here: http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Dec+2013+Fix+Sprint

(And tidied up similar wiki pages into an Events page)

Hi all, apologies for the slow response.

The CSS module has been pretty slow-moving for a long time now. I don’t think you should assume I’m not maintaining it just because there hasn’t been a lot of action there since the transition to extension. That said, I don’t plan on increasing the pace of releases unless it comes up as a part of my paid work - if you want parallel releases with GeoTools and GeoServer then I guess a fork is needed.

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On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Q: Fork CSS module?
A: We would like David back as maintainer, but if he is no longer maintaining then perhaps we should fork code into Geotools organization and release from there.

Q: Where? GeoServer organisation, or GeoTools?
A: GeoTools is a better fit license wise and level of detail

Q: Where is David! We miss him…

Q: Can we move this page to Data (rather then a top level demo page)

I was able to catch David briefly today and ask him to check email. Importantly it does look as if the CSS functionality can be split out of the GeoScript module. GeoScript makes use of it (rather than the other way around). With that in mind it will make more sense to factor out the CSS functionality into the GeoTools organisation, given its MIT license.

Alternatively a GeoScript organisation could be set up to hold all three projects, and the CSS functionality factored out under a clear project banner / MIT license.

Jody


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On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 6:38 PM, David Winslow <dwinslow@anonymised.com>wrote:

Hi all, apologies for the slow response.

The CSS module has been pretty slow-moving for a long time now. I don't
think you should assume I'm not maintaining it just because there hasn't
been a lot of action there since the transition to extension. That said, I
don't plan on increasing the pace of releases unless it comes up as a part
of my paid work - if you want parallel releases with GeoTools and GeoServer
then I guess a fork is needed.

David,
we actually would like very much to have you involved in the module. The
issue is more that it's difficult to contribute to,
e.g., this pull request is rather trivial, and has been sitting there for a
long while:
https://github.com/dwins/geoscript.scala/pull/34/files

So the idea is set up the CSS project so that more people can contribute to
in on equal footing, instead of having
to roll custom binary builds like we did for the last couple of GeoServer
releases

Cheers
Andrea

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