[Geoserver-devel] GSIP-215 Drop Java 8

Please see https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-215 for details, general idea is to drop Java 8 support so we can update dependencies and plan Jakarta migration.

Thanks to foss4g code sprint and Euan Mitchell for initial pull request for docs:

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If this proposal is ready for the 2.22.0 release it would simplify the process of setting up build jobs for the new release cycle. Vote early, vote often…

Jody Garnett

+1 on switching to Java 11 only on main, I’m between a -0 and a -1 on dropping on 2.22.0 too.

Dropping Java 8 support in 2.22.0, as it would give the user base only 6 months before GeoServer stops supporting Java 8 altogether
(2.20.x is about to get its last release, 2.21.x will live only up to March 2023).

The 2.21.0 release already contained a warning, quoting:
“This is likely to be the last release that supports Java 8 and we encourage users to start to make the transition to Java 11 during the lifetime of this branch.”

The message was too easy to ignore IMHO, I’d prefer to have a 2.22.0 with a title stating in unequivocal terms “This is the last release supporting Java 8, upgrade now”.

Cheers
Andrea

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Okay, updated proposal to target dropping Java 8 for GeoServer 2.23.0.

Jody

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+1

On both proposals

Ian

On Wed, 31 Aug 2022, 10:21 Jody Garnett, <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Okay, updated proposal to target dropping Java 8 for GeoServer 2.23.0.

Jody

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 10:34 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

+1 on switching to Java 11 only on main, I’m between a -0 and a -1 on dropping on 2.22.0 too.

Dropping Java 8 support in 2.22.0, as it would give the user base only 6 months before GeoServer stops supporting Java 8 altogether
(2.20.x is about to get its last release, 2.21.x will live only up to March 2023).

The 2.21.0 release already contained a warning, quoting:
“This is likely to be the last release that supports Java 8 and we encourage users to start to make the transition to Java 11 during the lifetime of this branch.”

The message was too easy to ignore IMHO, I’d prefer to have a 2.22.0 with a title stating in unequivocal terms “This is the last release supporting Java 8, upgrade now”.

Cheers
Andrea

On Tue, Aug 30, 2022 at 8:15 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Please see https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-215 for details, general idea is to drop Java 8 support so we can update dependencies and plan Jakarta migration.

Thanks to foss4g code sprint and Euan Mitchell for initial pull request for docs:

If this proposal is ready for the 2.22.0 release it would simplify the process of setting up build jobs for the new release cycle. Vote early, vote often…

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A community guy kudos here :slight_smile:

It is a good time, a lot of important projects have already planned the Java 8 baseline drop, and support will start to be an issue in the next few years. Java 11+ is on the top usage now and new versions usage will increase with the next JDK planned features.

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One interesting bit from a user list exchange: once we drop support for Java 8, we can also
remove Marlin, as Java 11 already ships with it (and it’s going to make things easier to run on JDK 17).

Cheers
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Hello,

What do you plan to do with property files used for translations? Convert all of them to UTF-8 or keep them like that?

Alexandre

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On 2022-08-30 11:14, Jody Garnett wrote:

Please see https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-215 for details, general idea is to drop Java 8 support so we can update dependencies and plan Jakarta migration.

Thanks to foss4g code sprint and Euan Mitchell for initial pull request for docs:

If this proposal is ready for the 2.22.0 release it would simplify the process of setting up build jobs for the new release cycle. Vote early, vote often…

Jody Garnett

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+1

On 2022-08-30 11:14, Jody Garnett wrote:

Please see https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-215 for details, general idea is to drop Java 8 support so we can update dependencies and plan Jakarta migration.

Thanks to foss4g code sprint and Euan Mitchell for initial pull request for docs:

If this proposal is ready for the 2.22.0 release it would simplify the process of setting up build jobs for the new release cycle. Vote early, vote often…

Jody Garnett

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I think this proposal is now ready to be accepted? (Note it was updated to indicate 2.23.0 timeframe)

Project Steering Committee:

  • Alessio Fabiani:
  • Andrea Aime: +1 (2.23.0 only)
  • Ian Turton: +1 (2.22.0 or 2.23.0)
  • Jody Garnett: +1 (2.22.0 or 2.23.0)
  • Jukka Rahkonen:
  • Kevin Smith: +1
  • Simone Giannecchini:
  • Torben Barsballe: +1
  • Nuno Oliveira: +1

Community support:

  • Fernando Mino: +1
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Jody Garnett

I agree. We just need to wait for the availability of a release manager to cut the RC, before merging the documentation PR.

Cheers
Andrea

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