[Geoserver-devel] Homepage changes

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies <Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com>
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

I see it as an improvement. I'd also add a bleeding edge link to the master
nightly build,
but I'd like to hear from others first.
Maybe at the bottom of the table, as people tend to reach for the first
link they see :slight_smile:

Cheers
Andrea

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-------------------------------------------------------

I would actually add nightly builds for all the available branches,
not only for master.
Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
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phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

-------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:02 AM, Andrea Aime
<andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
<Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

I see it as an improvement. I'd also add a bleeding edge link to the master
nightly build,
but I'd like to hear from others first.
Maybe at the bottom of the table, as people tend to reach for the first link
they see :slight_smile:

Cheers
Andrea

--

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

Ing. Andrea Aime
@geowolf
Technical Lead

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 339 8844549

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

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The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

···

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


Ben Caradoc-Davies Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre


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Yep, please role this back.

···

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


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Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre


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Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:
).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

-------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
<Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies <Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com>
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre

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Hi,
I quite like it and agree with Andrea’s suggestion of having a link to the nightly too.

However I’d suggest changing the way it is presented slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and have the same amount of text in (exact same number of characters!), even though the text is slightly different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively grab stuff.
Instead I’d suggest a format like:

Inline images 1

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···

At the very least making the download visually disparate from the release notes.

Cheers,
Jonathan

On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:

).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com03…> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


Ben Caradoc-Davies Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre


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Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.

Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks, Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g. download page. I don’t see the benefit of having the table of “Most recent releases” at top of it. In addition to that point the download-page could have some indicator icons from the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in general, maybe take from ohloh http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets

I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with headlines on the right side, down below the browse section followed by icons of upcoming events.

I’m bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well (what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should be the users-map ???))

  • Frank
(attachments)

image.png

···

2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules <jonathanmoules@anonymised.com>:

Hi,
I quite like it and agree with Andrea’s suggestion of having a link to the nightly too.

However I’d suggest changing the way it is presented slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and have the same amount of text in (exact same number of characters!), even though the text is slightly different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively grab stuff.
Instead I’d suggest a format like:

Inline images 1

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At the very least making the download visually disparate from the release notes.

Cheers,
Jonathan

On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:

).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


Ben Caradoc-Davies Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre


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Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.

Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks, Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g. download page. I don’t see the benefit of having the table of “Most recent releases” at top of it. In addition to that point the download-page could have some indicator icons from the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in general, maybe take from ohloh http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets

I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with headlines on the right side, down below the browse section followed by icons of upcoming events.

I’m bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well (what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should be the users-map ???))

  • Frank
(attachments)

image.png

···

2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules <jonathanmoules@anonymised.com>:

Hi,
I quite like it and agree with Andrea’s suggestion of having a link to the nightly too.

However I’d suggest changing the way it is presented slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and have the same amount of text in (exact same number of characters!), even though the text is slightly different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively grab stuff.
Instead I’d suggest a format like:

Inline images 1

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At the very least making the download visually disparate from the release notes.

Cheers,
Jonathan

On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:

).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


Ben Caradoc-Davies Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre


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If that is the direction we want we should replace the map area with a series of attractive download buttons and call it a day.

Right now the loss of the two column layout is masking what is trying to be achieved.

This is the kind of thing I wrote a jira for when considering clarifying GeoWebCache (sigh).

···

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:

).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


Ben Caradoc-Davies Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com
Software Engineer
CSIRO Earth Science and Resource Engineering
Australian Resources Research Centre


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Agreed that the home page needs work. Actually a few weeks back I started putting together a static home page with the intent of replacing the current site with one hosted by github pages. As part of that I wanted to revisit the layout of the home page.

My thought re downloads was to replace the big Download button in the upper right hand corner with something that made better utilization of space. Rather than have one big download button have that space contain 3 little buttons labeled “Stable”, “Latest”, “Nightly”. And I guess now “Maintenance”.

This thread does bring up the interesting thought about what should be prominent on the home page. I do think a live map backed by a real GeoServer is a good thing. Perhaps just less prominent makes sense.

Anyways, perhaps I will try to finalize my initial home page re-organization so that I can send out a mock up for people to ingest. Just have to find the time…

(attachments)

image.png

···

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Frank Gasdorf <frank.gasdorf@anonymised.com> wrote:

Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.

Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks, Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g. download page. I don’t see the benefit of having the table of “Most recent releases” at top of it. In addition to that point the download-page could have some indicator icons from the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in general, maybe take from ohloh http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets

I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with headlines on the right side, down below the browse section followed by icons of upcoming events.

I’m bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well (what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should be the users-map ???))

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2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules <jonathanmoules@anonymised.com>:

Hi,

I quite like it and agree with Andrea’s suggestion of having a link to the nightly too.

However I’d suggest changing the way it is presented slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and have the same amount of text in (exact same number of characters!), even though the text is slightly different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively grab stuff.
Instead I’d suggest a format like:

Inline images 1

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At the very least making the download visually disparate from the release notes.

Cheers,
Jonathan

On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:

).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

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for more information.

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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


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Fixed the two column layout, and added a download table into the mix (against my better judgement):

I don’t think links on the home page help all that much. It is fine for GeoGit where there is one thing to download, since we have three the text on the download page is kind of needed.

The download links and announcements do not give an indication that they are “new” and thus do not appear exciting.

Making a static home page would be a good thing, as long as we pull some live content in so you can tell at a glance that the project is alive.

The map is important, as the first thing I see people do is zoom in and try and evaluate rendering quality :slight_smile: With that in mind a rolling banner of pretty maps would be more useful then the dynamic map we have today.

(attachments)

image.png

···

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

Agreed that the home page needs work. Actually a few weeks back I started putting together a static home page with the intent of replacing the current site with one hosted by github pages. As part of that I wanted to revisit the layout of the home page.

My thought re downloads was to replace the big Download button in the upper right hand corner with something that made better utilization of space. Rather than have one big download button have that space contain 3 little buttons labeled “Stable”, “Latest”, “Nightly”. And I guess now “Maintenance”.

This thread does bring up the interesting thought about what should be prominent on the home page. I do think a live map backed by a real GeoServer is a good thing. Perhaps just less prominent makes sense.

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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Frank Gasdorf <frank.gasdorf@anonymised.com> wrote:

Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.

Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks, Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g. download page. I don’t see the benefit of having the table of “Most recent releases” at top of it. In addition to that point the download-page could have some indicator icons from the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in general, maybe take from ohloh http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets

I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with headlines on the right side, down below the browse section followed by icons of upcoming events.

I’m bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well (what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should be the users-map ???))

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2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules <jonathanmoules@anonymised.com>:

Hi,

I quite like it and agree with Andrea’s suggestion of having a link to the nightly too.

However I’d suggest changing the way it is presented slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and have the same amount of text in (exact same number of characters!), even though the text is slightly different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively grab stuff.
Instead I’d suggest a format like:

Inline images 1

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At the very least making the download visually disparate from the release notes.

Cheers,
Jonathan

On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:

).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

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for more information.

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Founder/Director

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Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


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Australian Resources Research Centre


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Dear All,
I have taken the freedom to further modify the table that Jody put together.

I have save locally the old layout in case we want to revert.
We often say to people “get a nightly out of a stable branch which should be safe” hence calling nightlies “development” sounded unfair and misleading to me.

(attachments)

image.png

···

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Fixed the two column layout, and added a download table into the mix (against my better judgement):

I don’t think links on the home page help all that much. It is fine for GeoGit where there is one thing to download, since we have three the text on the download page is kind of needed.

The download links and announcements do not give an indication that they are “new” and thus do not appear exciting.

Making a static home page would be a good thing, as long as we pull some live content in so you can tell at a glance that the project is alive.

The map is important, as the first thing I see people do is zoom in and try and evaluate rendering quality :slight_smile: With that in mind a rolling banner of pretty maps would be more useful then the dynamic map we have today.


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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

Agreed that the home page needs work. Actually a few weeks back I started putting together a static home page with the intent of replacing the current site with one hosted by github pages. As part of that I wanted to revisit the layout of the home page.

My thought re downloads was to replace the big Download button in the upper right hand corner with something that made better utilization of space. Rather than have one big download button have that space contain 3 little buttons labeled “Stable”, “Latest”, “Nightly”. And I guess now “Maintenance”.

This thread does bring up the interesting thought about what should be prominent on the home page. I do think a live map backed by a real GeoServer is a good thing. Perhaps just less prominent makes sense.

Anyways, perhaps I will try to finalize my initial home page re-organization so that I can send out a mock up for people to ingest. Just have to find the time…


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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Frank Gasdorf <frank.gasdorf@anonymised.com> wrote:

Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.

Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks, Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g. download page. I don’t see the benefit of having the table of “Most recent releases” at top of it. In addition to that point the download-page could have some indicator icons from the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in general, maybe take from ohloh http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets

I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with headlines on the right side, down below the browse section followed by icons of upcoming events.

I’m bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well (what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should be the users-map ???))

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2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules <jonathanmoules@anonymised.com>:

Hi,

I quite like it and agree with Andrea’s suggestion of having a link to the nightly too.

However I’d suggest changing the way it is presented slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and have the same amount of text in (exact same number of characters!), even though the text is slightly different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively grab stuff.
Instead I’d suggest a format like:

Inline images 1

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At the very least making the download visually disparate from the release notes.

Cheers,
Jonathan

On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially for them).

Having a clear indication of the available downloads on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data (at least IMHO :slight_smile:

).

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK
for more information.

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@simogeo
Founder/Director

GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout. Really we
are now just reproducing the download page and I do not see the value.

The goal of this is to show the project is alive and releasing software, any
chance we can get the latest entry from our blog instead?

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com wrote:

I have put a small table at the top of the homepage to list both stable
and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome

Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x users to upgrade) or a
regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x rather than 2.5.x)?

Kind regards,


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When did this happen? I do not recall ever seeing a two-column layout.

On 16/04/14 17:19, Jody Garnett wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout.

--
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I preferred Jonathan's wording, which was more succinct and included a Release Notes. It only lacked an Announcement link.

Also, can a nightly ever be considered stable/maintenance? Nightlies can have failing unit tests and cite tests. I wonder if we make these harder to find by leaving them off the front page?

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 17/04/14 01:25, Simone Giannecchini wrote:

Dear All,
I have taken the freedom to further modify the table that Jody put together.

I have save locally the old layout in case we want to revert.
We often say to people "get a nightly out of a stable branch which
should be safe" hence calling nightlies "development" sounded unfair and
misleading to me.

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini

Meet us at GEO Business 2014! in London! Visit http://goo.gl/fES3aK for
more information.

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928

http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it

-------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com
<mailto:jody.garnett@anonymised.com>> wrote:

    Fixed the two column layout, and added a download table into the mix
    (against my better judgement):

    I don't think links on the home page help all that much. It is fine
    for GeoGit where there is one thing to download, since we have three
    the text on the download page is kind of needed.

    The download links and announcements do not give an indication that
    they are "new" and thus do not appear exciting.

    Making a static home page would be a good thing, as long as we pull
    some live content in so you can tell at a glance that the project is
    alive.

    The map is important, as the first thing I see people do is zoom in
    and try and evaluate rendering quality :slight_smile: With that in mind a
    rolling banner of pretty maps would be more useful then the dynamic
    map we have today.

    Jody Garnett

    On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Justin Deoliveira
    <jdeolive@anonymised.com <mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com>> wrote:

        Agreed that the home page needs work. Actually a few weeks back
        I started putting together a static home page with the intent of
        replacing the current site with one hosted by github pages. As
        part of that I wanted to revisit the layout of the home page.

        My thought re downloads was to replace the big Download button
        in the upper right hand corner with something that made better
        utilization of space. Rather than have one big download button
        have that space contain 3 little buttons labeled "Stable",
        "Latest", "Nightly". And I guess now "Maintenance".

        This thread does bring up the interesting thought about what
        should be prominent on the home page. I do think a live map
        backed by a real GeoServer is a good thing. Perhaps just less
        prominent makes sense.

        Anyways, perhaps I will try to finalize my initial home page
        re-organization so that I can send out a mock up for people to
        ingest. Just have to find the time...

        On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Frank Gasdorf
        <frank.gasdorf@anonymised.com <mailto:frank.gasdorf@anonymised.com>> wrote:

            Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.

            Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks,
            Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g.
            download page. I don't see the benefit of having the table
            of "Most recent releases" at top of it. In addition to that
            point the download-page could have some indicator icons from
            the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it
            would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in
            general, maybe take from ohloh
            http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets

            I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with
            headlines on the right side, down below the browse section
            followed by icons of upcoming events.

            I'm bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well
            (what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should
            be the users-map ???))

            - Frank

            2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules
            <jonathanmoules@anonymised.com
            <mailto:jonathanmoules@anonymised.com>>:

                Hi,
                I quite like it and agree with Andrea's suggestion of
                having a link to the nightly too.

                However I'd suggest changing the way it is presented
                slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and
                have the same amount of text in (exact same number of
                characters!), even though the text is slightly
                different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively
                grab stuff.
                Instead I'd suggest a format like:

                Inline images 1

                At the very least making the download visually disparate
                from the release notes.

                Cheers,
                Jonathan

                On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini
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                <mailto:simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com>> wrote:

                    Ciao Jody,
                    I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple
                    times in the past
                    to be in troubles understanding what to download
                    from where, for
                    stable releases but also for nightlies (especially
                    for them).

                    Having a clear indication of the available downloads
                    on the home page
                    is much more important than a map with some OSM data
                    (at least IMHO :slight_smile:
                    ).

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                     > The home page seems messed up, we have lost our
                    two column layout. Really we
                     > are now just reproducing the download page and I
                    do not see the value.
                     >
                     > The goal of this is to show the project is alive
                    and releasing software, any
                     > chance we can get the latest entry from our blog
                    instead?
                     >
                     > Jody Garnett
                     >
                     > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
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                     >>
                     >> I have put a small table at the top of the
                    homepage to list both stable
                     >> and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
                     >> http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome
                     >>
                     >> Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x
                    users to upgrade) or a
                     >> regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x
                    rather than 2.5.x)?
                     >>
                     >> Kind regards,
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How about something like this? Only the last three columns would have links. This avoids overlong cells which break formatting (for clarity I have left off the links):

| Stable | 2.5.0 | Download | Announcement | Release Notes |
| Maintenance | 2.4.6 | Download | Announcement | Release Notes |

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 17/04/14 10:20, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:

I preferred Jonathan's wording, which was more succinct and included a
Release Notes. It only lacked an Announcement link.

Also, can a nightly ever be considered stable/maintenance? Nightlies can
have failing unit tests and cite tests. I wonder if we make these harder
to find by leaving them off the front page?

Kind regards,
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On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

I preferred Jonathan's wording, which was more succinct and included a
Release Notes. It only lacked an Announcement link.

Also, can a nightly ever be considered stable/maintenance? Nightlies can
have failing unit tests and cite tests. I wonder if we make these harder
to find by leaving them off the front page?

Failing cite tests yes, but failing unit tests? I was under the impression
that
they are not generated in that case?

About their stability, I basically only use nightlies, because they always
have that extra fix/feature that I need and can't wait for a release to
deploy:
so far cannot say I had significant problems because of that

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The two column layout uses

{section}
{column:width=50%}
welcome stuff
{column}

{column}

map stuff
{column}
{section}

There are several sections like this when you look at the wiki text.

···

Jody Garnett

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

When did this happen? I do not recall ever seeing a two-column layout.

On 16/04/14 17:19, Jody Garnett wrote:

The home page seems messed up, we have lost our two column layout.


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On 17/04/14 14:22, Andrea Aime wrote:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
<Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com <mailto:Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com>> wrote:
    Also, can a nightly ever be considered stable/maintenance? Nightlies can
    have failing unit tests and cite tests. I wonder if we make these harder
    to find by leaving them off the front page?
Failing cite tests yes, but failing unit tests? I was under the
impression that
they are not generated in that case?

geoserver-master-nightly runs every 24 hours on a timer with -DskipTests; this is the command:

/opt/apache-maven-2.2.1/bin/mvn -DskipTests -Dbuild.hudsonId=233 -P release,communityRelease clean install

Looks to me like nightlies are built regardless of unit test failures.

About their stability, I basically only use nightlies, because they always
have that extra fix/feature that I need and can't wait for a release to
deploy:
so far cannot say I had significant problems because of that

We archive daily builds of master built with unit tests. See this comparison table:
https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Infosrvices/JenkinsGeoserverMaster

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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <
Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 17/04/14 14:22, Andrea Aime wrote:

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 4:20 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
<Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com <mailto:Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com>> wrote:
    Also, can a nightly ever be considered stable/maintenance? Nightlies
can
    have failing unit tests and cite tests. I wonder if we make these
harder
    to find by leaving them off the front page?
Failing cite tests yes, but failing unit tests? I was under the
impression that
they are not generated in that case?

geoserver-master-nightly runs every 24 hours on a timer with -DskipTests;
this is the command:

/opt/apache-maven-2.2.1/bin/mvn -DskipTests -Dbuild.hudsonId=233 -P
release,communityRelease clean install

Looks to me like nightlies are built regardless of unit test failures.

Ugh... this is bad...

About their stability, I basically only use nightlies, because they always

have that extra fix/feature that I need and can't wait for a release to
deploy:
so far cannot say I had significant problems because of that

We archive daily builds of master built with unit tests. See this
comparison table:
https://www.seegrid.csiro.au/wiki/Infosrvices/JenkinsGeoserverMaster

Nice, at the same time, too bad it's not anything official.
Did you ever think of making that build server official too? Having one
more does not hurt imho

Cheers
Andrea

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