I preferred Jonathan's wording, which was more succinct and included a Release Notes. It only lacked an Announcement link.
Also, can a nightly ever be considered stable/maintenance? Nightlies can have failing unit tests and cite tests. I wonder if we make these harder to find by leaving them off the front page?
Dear All,
I have taken the freedom to further modify the table that Jody put together.
I have save locally the old layout in case we want to revert.
We often say to people "get a nightly out of a stable branch which
should be safe" hence calling nightlies "development" sounded unfair and
misleading to me.
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com
<mailto:jody.garnett@anonymised.com>> wrote:
Fixed the two column layout, and added a download table into the mix
(against my better judgement):
I don't think links on the home page help all that much. It is fine
for GeoGit where there is one thing to download, since we have three
the text on the download page is kind of needed.
The download links and announcements do not give an indication that
they are "new" and thus do not appear exciting.
Making a static home page would be a good thing, as long as we pull
some live content in so you can tell at a glance that the project is
alive.
The map is important, as the first thing I see people do is zoom in
and try and evaluate rendering quality With that in mind a
rolling banner of pretty maps would be more useful then the dynamic
map we have today.
Jody Garnett
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Justin Deoliveira
<jdeolive@anonymised.com <mailto:jdeolive@anonymised.com>> wrote:
Agreed that the home page needs work. Actually a few weeks back
I started putting together a static home page with the intent of
replacing the current site with one hosted by github pages. As
part of that I wanted to revisit the layout of the home page.
My thought re downloads was to replace the big Download button
in the upper right hand corner with something that made better
utilization of space. Rather than have one big download button
have that space contain 3 little buttons labeled "Stable",
"Latest", "Nightly". And I guess now "Maintenance".
This thread does bring up the interesting thought about what
should be prominent on the home page. I do think a live map
backed by a real GeoServer is a good thing. Perhaps just less
prominent makes sense.
Anyways, perhaps I will try to finalize my initial home page
re-organization so that I can send out a mock up for people to
ingest. Just have to find the time...
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:16 AM, Frank Gasdorf
<frank.gasdorf@anonymised.com <mailto:frank.gasdorf@anonymised.com>> wrote:
Jody, totally agree, the landing-page got messed up.
Its a mix up of Events, Supporter-Thanks,
Commercials/Suggestions and repeated content from e.g.
download page. I don't see the benefit of having the table
of "Most recent releases" at top of it. In addition to that
point the download-page could have some indicator icons from
the build-boxes (Jenkins widgets). Having this in mind it
would also be worth at the download-page to show activity in
general, maybe take from ohloh
http://www.ohloh.net/p/geoserver/widgets
I like the idea of having a twitter feed/ blog role with
headlines on the right side, down below the browse section
followed by icons of upcoming events.
I'm bit confused about the OSM Map in the middle as well
(what is it for and which content is served (maybe it should
be the users-map ???))
- Frank
2014-04-16 11:56 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Moules
<jonathanmoules@anonymised.com
<mailto:jonathanmoules@anonymised.com>>:
Hi,
I quite like it and agree with Andrea's suggestion of
having a link to the nightly too.
However I'd suggest changing the way it is presented
slightly. Currently all four boxes are the same size and
have the same amount of text in (exact same number of
characters!), even though the text is slightly
different. This makes it a little harder to intuitively
grab stuff.
Instead I'd suggest a format like:
Inline images 1
At the very least making the download visually disparate
from the release notes.
Cheers,
Jonathan
On 16 April 2014 10:24, Simone Giannecchini
<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com
<mailto:simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com>> wrote:
Ciao Jody,
I disagree, I have got people complaining multiple
times in the past
to be in troubles understanding what to download
from where, for
stable releases but also for nightlies (especially
for them).
Having a clear indication of the available downloads
on the home page
is much more important than a map with some OSM data
(at least IMHO
).
Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
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On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Jody Garnett
<jody.garnett@anonymised.com
<mailto:jody.garnett@anonymised.com>> wrote:
> The home page seems messed up, we have lost our
two column layout. Really we
> are now just reproducing the download page and I
do not see the value.
>
> The goal of this is to show the project is alive
and releasing software, any
> chance we can get the latest entry from our blog
instead?
>
> Jody Garnett
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies
> <Ben.Caradoc-Davies@anonymised.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have put a small table at the top of the
homepage to list both stable
>> and maintenance recent releases and announcements:
>> http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Welcome
>>
>> Is this an improvement (to encourage older 2.4.x
users to upgrade) or a
>> regression (might tempt new users to to 2.4.x
rather than 2.5.x)?
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
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