Fernando and myself have been discussing some things related to setting up a brazil specific geoserver site. We have some ideas and would like to sum up our discussion to get feedback from the community.
First off what Fernando wants is basically the regular geoserver home page, but with a few tweaks.
* The logo modified slightly. Nothing too drastic. Fernando suggested maybe somehow just working the yellow/green color scheme into the current logo. Be nice to get feedback on this one specifically.
* Any links on the site made specific where appropriate. Things like pointing the mailing list to the Brazilian mailing list, the blog pointed to the translated geoserver blog, centering the ol map on Brazil, etc...
And that would be more or less it. What do people think about setting up a language/country specific site in this way? Feedback welcome. I could see this becoming the template for other communities that want to set up a slightly more catered site.
-Justin
--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.
Overall I think it's a good idea. I guess we could use .br for the front page and pt where the language is more important than the location.
It should be pretty easy to do, make a simple template for the front page where we just replace a few variables, and move our existing blog to WordPress MU so that the maintenance doesn't increase by a ton when we add more instances.
I'm not sure we can easily do br.geoserver.org with Confluence, so we may have to to geoserver.org/pt (focus on the language) for that component, or maybe we don't need Confluence at all.
-Arne
Justin Deoliveira wrote:
Hi all,
Fernando and myself have been discussing some things related to setting up a brazil specific geoserver site. We have some ideas and would like to sum up our discussion to get feedback from the community.
First off what Fernando wants is basically the regular geoserver home page, but with a few tweaks.
* The logo modified slightly. Nothing too drastic. Fernando suggested maybe somehow just working the yellow/green color scheme into the current logo. Be nice to get feedback on this one specifically.
* Any links on the site made specific where appropriate. Things like pointing the mailing list to the Brazilian mailing list, the blog pointed to the translated geoserver blog, centering the ol map on Brazil, etc...
And that would be more or less it. What do people think about setting up a language/country specific site in this way? Feedback welcome. I could see this becoming the template for other communities that want to set up a slightly more catered site.
-Justin
--
Arne Kepp
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers
There was talk (offline) talk recently of reverting the GeoServer home page to a non-Confluence page (apparently this was how it used to be in years gone by), which might make it easier to have regional home pages...
Overall I think it's a good idea. I guess we could use .br for the front page and pt where the language is more important than the location.
It should be pretty easy to do, make a simple template for the front page where we just replace a few variables, and move our existing blog to WordPress MU so that the maintenance doesn't increase by a ton when we add more instances.
I'm not sure we can easily do br.geoserver.org with Confluence, so we may have to to geoserver.org/pt (focus on the language) for that component, or maybe we don't need Confluence at all.
-Arne
Justin Deoliveira wrote:
Hi all,
Fernando and myself have been discussing some things related to setting up a brazil specific geoserver site. We have some ideas and would like to sum up our discussion to get feedback from the community.
First off what Fernando wants is basically the regular geoserver home page, but with a few tweaks.
* The logo modified slightly. Nothing too drastic. Fernando suggested maybe somehow just working the yellow/green color scheme into the current logo. Be nice to get feedback on this one specifically.
* Any links on the site made specific where appropriate. Things like pointing the mailing list to the Brazilian mailing list, the blog pointed to the translated geoserver blog, centering the ol map on Brazil, etc...
And that would be more or less it. What do people think about setting up a language/country specific site in this way? Feedback welcome. I could see this becoming the template for other communities that want to set up a slightly more catered site.
Yeah, Chris and I chatted about this as well. And it might make sense in this case to just have the regular front page be static, and gave a "Wiki" link that goes to confluence.
Mike Pumphrey wrote:
There was talk (offline) talk recently of reverting the GeoServer home page to a non-Confluence page (apparently this was how it used to be in years gone by), which might make it easier to have regional home pages...
Overall I think it's a good idea. I guess we could use .br for the front page and pt where the language is more important than the location.
It should be pretty easy to do, make a simple template for the front page where we just replace a few variables, and move our existing blog to WordPress MU so that the maintenance doesn't increase by a ton when we add more instances.
I'm not sure we can easily do br.geoserver.org with Confluence, so we may have to to geoserver.org/pt (focus on the language) for that component, or maybe we don't need Confluence at all.
-Arne
Justin Deoliveira wrote:
Hi all,
Fernando and myself have been discussing some things related to setting up a brazil specific geoserver site. We have some ideas and would like to sum up our discussion to get feedback from the community.
First off what Fernando wants is basically the regular geoserver home page, but with a few tweaks.
* The logo modified slightly. Nothing too drastic. Fernando suggested maybe somehow just working the yellow/green color scheme into the current logo. Be nice to get feedback on this one specifically.
* Any links on the site made specific where appropriate. Things like pointing the mailing list to the Brazilian mailing list, the blog pointed to the translated geoserver blog, centering the ol map on Brazil, etc...
And that would be more or less it. What do people think about setting up a language/country specific site in this way? Feedback welcome. I could see this becoming the template for other communities that want to set up a slightly more catered site.
-Justin
--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.
Overall I think it's a good idea. I guess we could use .br for the front page and pt where the language is more important than the location.
It should be pretty easy to do, make a simple template for the front page where we just replace a few variables, and move our existing blog to WordPress MU so that the maintenance doesn't increase by a ton when we add more instances.
I'm not sure we can easily do br.geoserver.org with Confluence, so we may have to to geoserver.org/pt (focus on the language) for that component, or maybe we don't need Confluence at all.
Right forgot to mention that I was thinking we could move the front page back to a regular static page, and add a link to go to the wiki. Also I guess to be correct the language code should be pt_BR.
-Arne
Justin Deoliveira wrote:
Hi all,
Fernando and myself have been discussing some things related to setting up a brazil specific geoserver site. We have some ideas and would like to sum up our discussion to get feedback from the community.
First off what Fernando wants is basically the regular geoserver home page, but with a few tweaks.
* The logo modified slightly. Nothing too drastic. Fernando suggested maybe somehow just working the yellow/green color scheme into the current logo. Be nice to get feedback on this one specifically.
* Any links on the site made specific where appropriate. Things like pointing the mailing list to the Brazilian mailing list, the blog pointed to the translated geoserver blog, centering the ol map on Brazil, etc...
And that would be more or less it. What do people think about setting up a language/country specific site in this way? Feedback welcome. I could see this becoming the template for other communities that want to set up a slightly more catered site.
-Justin
--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.
Sounds like a bunch of good suggestions; I am at the geolibre conference and scheduled for a workshop thursday (so the timing would be good; even just to announce).
Out of the list the only one that gives me pause is modification of the logo. I like the idea of a geoserver website for brazil - but not the idea of a geoserver brand for brazil. Would br.geoserver.org website go to yellow/green rather then blue?
Jody
On 16/11/2009, at 1:00 PM, Justin Deoliveira wrote:
Hi all,
Fernando and myself have been discussing some things related to setting
up a brazil specific geoserver site. We have some ideas and would like
to sum up our discussion to get feedback from the community.
First off what Fernando wants is basically the regular geoserver home
page, but with a few tweaks.
* The logo modified slightly. Nothing too drastic. Fernando suggested
maybe somehow just working the yellow/green color scheme into the
current logo. Be nice to get feedback on this one specifically.
* Any links on the site made specific where appropriate. Things like
pointing the mailing list to the Brazilian mailing list, the blog
pointed to the translated geoserver blog, centering the ol map on
Brazil, etc...
And that would be more or less it. What do people think about setting up
a language/country specific site in this way? Feedback welcome. I could
see this becoming the template for other communities that want to set up
a slightly more catered site.
-Justin
--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.
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Sounds like a bunch of good suggestions; I am at the geolibre
conference and scheduled for a workshop thursday (so the timing would
be good; even just to announce).
Out of the list the only one that gives me pause is modification of
the logo. I like the idea of a geoserver website for brazil - but
not the idea of a geoserver brand for brazil. Would br.geoserver.org
website go to yellow/green rather then blue?
Agreed, at least the logo should remain unchanged imho.
Or maybe decorated somehow, for example by adding a small brazilian
flag on top of it.
The branding imposes not only logos but also colors and fonts.
A GeoServer related site should not deviate from them imho, or
we start diluting the GeoServer identity (e.g., brazilian people
will start thinking the GeoServer logo is yellow and wonder
why a different color set is used when exposed to the official site).
Cheers
Andrea
--
Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.
I agree that the logo dont change. However, I wish there was something on
the page to remember the Brazil. Maybe the blue bar, below the geoserver
logo.
Best Regards,
Fernando Silveira de Quadro
Analista de Sistemas GIS
Softplan/Poligraph - Sistema da Qualidade Certificado - ISO 9001
Fone: (048) 3027-8000
www.softplan.com.br
-----Mensagem original-----
De: Andrea Aime [mailto:aaime@anonymised.com]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 18 de novembro de 2009 05:28
Para: Jody Garnett
Cc: Justin Deoliveira; Geoserver-devel; Fernando Quadro
Assunto: Re: [Geoserver-devel] language specific website
Jody Garnett ha scritto:
Sounds like a bunch of good suggestions; I am at the geolibre
conference and scheduled for a workshop thursday (so the timing would
be good; even just to announce).
Out of the list the only one that gives me pause is modification of
the logo. I like the idea of a geoserver website for brazil - but
not the idea of a geoserver brand for brazil. Would br.geoserver.org
website go to yellow/green rather then blue?
Agreed, at least the logo should remain unchanged imho.
Or maybe decorated somehow, for example by adding a small brazilian
flag on top of it.
The branding imposes not only logos but also colors and fonts.
A GeoServer related site should not deviate from them imho, or
we start diluting the GeoServer identity (e.g., brazilian people
will start thinking the GeoServer logo is yellow and wonder
why a different color set is used when exposed to the official site).
Cheers
Andrea
--
Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.
Yeah, I believe the intent was to decorate it somehow. But I agree we start walking a fine line as to what begins to compromise the logo. The flag idea could work. An idea I had was to leave the logo as is and overlay a polygon or outline representing Brazil onto it. Although given the logo that would not work in all cases.
Perhaps Rollie (CC'd) can chime in with some ideas. Perhaps the answer is no changes to the logo period, and find other ways to make the site specific.
Andrea Aime wrote:
Jody Garnett ha scritto:
Sounds like a bunch of good suggestions; I am at the geolibre
conference and scheduled for a workshop thursday (so the timing would
be good; even just to announce).
Out of the list the only one that gives me pause is modification of
the logo. I like the idea of a geoserver website for brazil - but
not the idea of a geoserver brand for brazil. Would br.geoserver.org
website go to yellow/green rather then blue?
Agreed, at least the logo should remain unchanged imho.
Or maybe decorated somehow, for example by adding a small brazilian
flag on top of it.
The branding imposes not only logos but also colors and fonts.
A GeoServer related site should not deviate from them imho, or
we start diluting the GeoServer identity (e.g., brazilian people
will start thinking the GeoServer logo is yellow and wonder
why a different color set is used when exposed to the official site).
Cheers
Andrea
--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.
A couple of ideas:
- if we did modify the logo it would be fun to keep the shape and just show brazil in the space provided
- I would be fine with adding a second logo such as a flag; rather then changing the existing one
- can we use the brazil colors and leave the logo alone?
Fernando do you have a moment for IRC chat? I would like to include some information about the community in my workshop tomorrow.
Jody
On 18/11/2009, at 11:19 AM, Justin Deoliveira wrote:
Yeah, I believe the intent was to decorate it somehow. But I agree we start walking a fine line as to what begins to compromise the logo. The flag idea could work. An idea I had was to leave the logo as is and overlay a polygon or outline representing Brazil onto it. Although given the logo that would not work in all cases.
Perhaps Rollie (CC'd) can chime in with some ideas. Perhaps the answer is no changes to the logo period, and find other ways to make the site specific.
Andrea Aime wrote:
Jody Garnett ha scritto:
Sounds like a bunch of good suggestions; I am at the geolibre
conference and scheduled for a workshop thursday (so the timing would
be good; even just to announce).
Out of the list the only one that gives me pause is modification of
the logo. I like the idea of a geoserver website for brazil - but
not the idea of a geoserver brand for brazil. Would br.geoserver.org
website go to yellow/green rather then blue?
Agreed, at least the logo should remain unchanged imho.
Or maybe decorated somehow, for example by adding a small brazilian
flag on top of it.
The reasoning is that we had designers come up with the logo, and
the branding in general, and the PSC voted a GSIP to apply those: http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/GSIP+26+-+New+GeoServer+Branding
The branding imposes not only logos but also colors and fonts.
A GeoServer related site should not deviate from them imho, or
we start diluting the GeoServer identity (e.g., brazilian people
will start thinking the GeoServer logo is yellow and wonder
why a different color set is used when exposed to the official site).
Cheers
Andrea
--
Justin Deoliveira
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.