[Geoserver-devel] Looking Geoserver's geocoding code

Hi,

Im looking for some geoserver’s geocoding code I saw many years ago.

Am I wrong, or geoserver had a geocoding pluging in an elder version, to convert addresses in geographic coordinates?

Thanks in advance!

2008/11/20 Ivo Brodien <philotas@anonymised.com>

Hello everybody,

I am sorry for answering so late. Thanks for the motivating answers.

  1. Shoud it be WMS or WFS service?
    Andrea Aime wrote:
    It depends, with vector output there’s always a grey area. As a rule
    of thum, if the output has any styling (it has to contain color, line
    width, filled polygons and the like, and be driven by an SLD) then
    it should be a WMS output format, since there is no concept of
    styling in WFS.

Ok, I will do it as a WMS service then, since I the plan ist to
deliver styled maps.

GeoServer already has two SVG based output formats, one that
is based on Batik and that supports SLD almost fully but it’s kind
of slow, and another one that supports very limited styling but
is faster.
I don’t know anything about these SVG profiles for mobile hardware,
but I guess you’ll need total control over the output, so I suggest
you look into the one that does not do full styling, and adapt
it to your needs. The classes can be found in the WMS module,
org.vfny.geoserver.wms.responses.map.svg package, and in particular
the low styling high performance classes are SVGMapProducer and
EncodeSVG, whilst the full styling lower performance is
SVGBatikMapProducer.

I started wit the cloning and adapting the SVGMapProdcer.java,
EncodeSVG.java and added my Render so it can be choosen via the
WebInterface as the SVG-Renderer.

  1. my biggest concern using geoserver is that I am afraid I can’t
    make use of the PostGIS function AsSVG() <http://svg.cc/pg/assvg/>
    where I could optimize output by setting relative coords and limit
    precision.

True, a WMS output format receives a MapContext definitions, that
do in turn have FeatureSource object. A good output format must not
make assumptions on the backend, and the PostGIS data store won’t
allow
you to make use of that function either.
Then again, you can use the GeoTools Decimator class to perform
a simple on the fly generalization (that class assumes you’re using
a special coordinate sequence class for your geometries, we can
talk details about this in a separate mail).

Okay so I guess I will just have to use external tools to make some
nicer SVG Data instead of letting PostGIS make all the work, which I
thought would be faster than doing it in Java. PostGIS also has the
Simplify function which does the generalization. It would be nice, if
we could talk about the Decimators generalization in separate mail as
you suggested Andrea. It sounds as if I also could use this class to
convert the geo data to my local screen device coordinate system, so
the client does not neet to do calculations?

  1. For my purpose I guess I would use SVG Basic instead of Tiny
    because Tiny profile does not support textpath element which is
    nice for street names.
  2. A gzip output would also be nice to reduce the file size

This is handled automatically by GeoServer already. There is a
filter installed in GeoServer that compresses text based outputs
on the fly. You just have to add the svg mime type (image/svg+xml)
to the list of compressed types, look into web.xml.

Great, works fine.

  1. Since I need a lot of map data to test navigation I would like
    to import OSM data (OpenStreetMap) into the PostGIS database. I
    know the tables of OSM are a mess

I have to correct myself. The data povided by GeoFabrik is pretty
nice. When I used a tool osm2psql it imported the whole table
structure. THe GeoFabrik data is very simple.

Cheers
Ivo


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Alvaro Zabala wrote:

Hi,

Im looking for some geoserver's geocoding code I saw many years ago.

Am I wrong, or geoserver had a geocoding pluging in an elder version, to convert addresses in geographic coordinates?

Thanks in advance!

2008/11/20 Ivo Brodien <philotas@anonymised.com <mailto:philotas@anonymised.com>>

    Hello everybody,

    I am sorry for answering so late. Thanks for the motivating answers.

     >> 1) Shoud it be WMS or WFS service?
     > Andrea Aime wrote:
     > It depends, with vector output there's always a grey area. As a rule
     > of thum, if the output has any styling (it has to contain color, line
     > width, filled polygons and the like, and be driven by an SLD) then
     > it should be a WMS output format, since there is no concept of
     > styling in WFS.

    Ok, I will do it as a WMS service then, since I the plan ist to
    deliver styled maps.

     > GeoServer already has two SVG based output formats, one that
     > is based on Batik and that supports SLD almost fully but it's kind
     > of slow, and another one that supports very limited styling but
     > is faster.
     > I don't know anything about these SVG profiles for mobile hardware,
     > but I guess you'll need total control over the output, so I suggest
     > you look into the one that does not do full styling, and adapt
     > it to your needs. The classes can be found in the WMS module,
     > org.vfny.geoserver.wms.responses.map.svg package, and in particular
     > the low styling high performance classes are SVGMapProducer and
     > EncodeSVG, whilst the full styling lower performance is
     > SVGBatikMapProducer.

    I started wit the cloning and adapting the SVGMapProdcer.java,
    EncodeSVG.java and added my Render so it can be choosen via the
    WebInterface as the SVG-Renderer.

     >> 3) my biggest concern using geoserver is that I am afraid I can't
     >> make use of the PostGIS function AsSVG() <http://svg.cc/pg/assvg/&gt;
     >> where I could optimize output by setting relative coords and limit
     >> precision.
     >
     > True, a WMS output format receives a MapContext definitions, that
     > do in turn have FeatureSource object. A good output format must not
     > make assumptions on the backend, and the PostGIS data store won't
     > allow
     > you to make use of that function either.
     > Then again, you can use the GeoTools Decimator class to perform
     > a simple on the fly generalization (that class assumes you're using
     > a special coordinate sequence class for your geometries, we can
     > talk details about this in a separate mail).

    Okay so I guess I will just have to use external tools to make some
    nicer SVG Data instead of letting PostGIS make all the work, which I
    thought would be faster than doing it in Java. PostGIS also has the
    Simplify function which does the generalization. It would be nice, if
    we could talk about the Decimators generalization in separate mail as
    you suggested Andrea. It sounds as if I also could use this class to
    convert the geo data to my local screen device coordinate system, so
    the client does not neet to do calculations?

     >> 4) For my purpose I guess I would use SVG Basic instead of Tiny
     >> because Tiny profile does not support textpath element which is
     >> nice for street names.
     >> 5) A gzip output would also be nice to reduce the file size
     >
     > This is handled automatically by GeoServer already. There is a
     > filter installed in GeoServer that compresses text based outputs
     > on the fly. You just have to add the svg mime type (image/svg+xml)
     > to the list of compressed types, look into web.xml.

    Great, works fine.

     >> 6) Since I need a lot of map data to test navigation I would like
     >> to import OSM data (OpenStreetMap) into the PostGIS database. I
     >> know the tables of OSM are a mess

    I have to correct myself. The data povided by GeoFabrik is pretty
    nice. When I used a tool osm2psql it imported the whole table
    structure. THe GeoFabrik data is very simple.

    Cheers
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Hi,

As far as I know there has never been such a module. Unfortunately geocoding is nothing GeoServer can do.

-Justin

Alvaro Zabala wrote:

Hi,

Im looking for some geoserver's geocoding code I saw many years ago.

Am I wrong, or geoserver had a geocoding pluging in an elder version, to convert addresses in geographic coordinates?

Thanks in advance!

2008/11/20 Ivo Brodien <philotas@anonymised.com <mailto:philotas@anonymised.com>>

    Hello everybody,

    I am sorry for answering so late. Thanks for the motivating answers.

     >> 1) Shoud it be WMS or WFS service?
     > Andrea Aime wrote:
     > It depends, with vector output there's always a grey area. As a rule
     > of thum, if the output has any styling (it has to contain color, line
     > width, filled polygons and the like, and be driven by an SLD) then
     > it should be a WMS output format, since there is no concept of
     > styling in WFS.

    Ok, I will do it as a WMS service then, since I the plan ist to
    deliver styled maps.

     > GeoServer already has two SVG based output formats, one that
     > is based on Batik and that supports SLD almost fully but it's kind
     > of slow, and another one that supports very limited styling but
     > is faster.
     > I don't know anything about these SVG profiles for mobile hardware,
     > but I guess you'll need total control over the output, so I suggest
     > you look into the one that does not do full styling, and adapt
     > it to your needs. The classes can be found in the WMS module,
     > org.vfny.geoserver.wms.responses.map.svg package, and in particular
     > the low styling high performance classes are SVGMapProducer and
     > EncodeSVG, whilst the full styling lower performance is
     > SVGBatikMapProducer.

    I started wit the cloning and adapting the SVGMapProdcer.java,
    EncodeSVG.java and added my Render so it can be choosen via the
    WebInterface as the SVG-Renderer.

     >> 3) my biggest concern using geoserver is that I am afraid I can't
     >> make use of the PostGIS function AsSVG() <http://svg.cc/pg/assvg/&gt;
     >> where I could optimize output by setting relative coords and limit
     >> precision.
     >
     > True, a WMS output format receives a MapContext definitions, that
     > do in turn have FeatureSource object. A good output format must not
     > make assumptions on the backend, and the PostGIS data store won't
     > allow
     > you to make use of that function either.
     > Then again, you can use the GeoTools Decimator class to perform
     > a simple on the fly generalization (that class assumes you're using
     > a special coordinate sequence class for your geometries, we can
     > talk details about this in a separate mail).

    Okay so I guess I will just have to use external tools to make some
    nicer SVG Data instead of letting PostGIS make all the work, which I
    thought would be faster than doing it in Java. PostGIS also has the
    Simplify function which does the generalization. It would be nice, if
    we could talk about the Decimators generalization in separate mail as
    you suggested Andrea. It sounds as if I also could use this class to
    convert the geo data to my local screen device coordinate system, so
    the client does not neet to do calculations?

     >> 4) For my purpose I guess I would use SVG Basic instead of Tiny
     >> because Tiny profile does not support textpath element which is
     >> nice for street names.
     >> 5) A gzip output would also be nice to reduce the file size
     >
     > This is handled automatically by GeoServer already. There is a
     > filter installed in GeoServer that compresses text based outputs
     > on the fly. You just have to add the svg mime type (image/svg+xml)
     > to the list of compressed types, look into web.xml.

    Great, works fine.

     >> 6) Since I need a lot of map data to test navigation I would like
     >> to import OSM data (OpenStreetMap) into the PostGIS database. I
     >> know the tables of OSM are a mess

    I have to correct myself. The data povided by GeoFabrik is pretty
    nice. When I used a tool osm2psql it imported the whole table
    structure. THe GeoFabrik data is very simple.

    Cheers
    Ivo

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There's http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JGEOCODER which could potentially be integrated in some way. At least it's in Java, haven't looked at it much past that.

C

Justin Deoliveira wrote:

Hi,

As far as I know there has never been such a module. Unfortunately geocoding is nothing GeoServer can do.

-Justin

Alvaro Zabala wrote:

Hi,

Im looking for some geoserver's geocoding code I saw many years ago.

Am I wrong, or geoserver had a geocoding pluging in an elder version, to convert addresses in geographic coordinates?

Thanks in advance!

2008/11/20 Ivo Brodien <philotas@anonymised.com <mailto:philotas@anonymised.com>>

    Hello everybody,

    I am sorry for answering so late. Thanks for the motivating answers.

     >> 1) Shoud it be WMS or WFS service?
     > Andrea Aime wrote:
     > It depends, with vector output there's always a grey area. As a rule
     > of thum, if the output has any styling (it has to contain color, line
     > width, filled polygons and the like, and be driven by an SLD) then
     > it should be a WMS output format, since there is no concept of
     > styling in WFS.

    Ok, I will do it as a WMS service then, since I the plan ist to
    deliver styled maps.

     > GeoServer already has two SVG based output formats, one that
     > is based on Batik and that supports SLD almost fully but it's kind
     > of slow, and another one that supports very limited styling but
     > is faster.
     > I don't know anything about these SVG profiles for mobile hardware,
     > but I guess you'll need total control over the output, so I suggest
     > you look into the one that does not do full styling, and adapt
     > it to your needs. The classes can be found in the WMS module,
     > org.vfny.geoserver.wms.responses.map.svg package, and in particular
     > the low styling high performance classes are SVGMapProducer and
     > EncodeSVG, whilst the full styling lower performance is
     > SVGBatikMapProducer.

    I started wit the cloning and adapting the SVGMapProdcer.java,
    EncodeSVG.java and added my Render so it can be choosen via the
    WebInterface as the SVG-Renderer.

     >> 3) my biggest concern using geoserver is that I am afraid I can't
     >> make use of the PostGIS function AsSVG() <http://svg.cc/pg/assvg/&gt;
     >> where I could optimize output by setting relative coords and limit
     >> precision.
     >
     > True, a WMS output format receives a MapContext definitions, that
     > do in turn have FeatureSource object. A good output format must not
     > make assumptions on the backend, and the PostGIS data store won't
     > allow
     > you to make use of that function either.
     > Then again, you can use the GeoTools Decimator class to perform
     > a simple on the fly generalization (that class assumes you're using
     > a special coordinate sequence class for your geometries, we can
     > talk details about this in a separate mail).

    Okay so I guess I will just have to use external tools to make some
    nicer SVG Data instead of letting PostGIS make all the work, which I
    thought would be faster than doing it in Java. PostGIS also has the
    Simplify function which does the generalization. It would be nice, if
    we could talk about the Decimators generalization in separate mail as
    you suggested Andrea. It sounds as if I also could use this class to
    convert the geo data to my local screen device coordinate system, so
    the client does not neet to do calculations?

     >> 4) For my purpose I guess I would use SVG Basic instead of Tiny
     >> because Tiny profile does not support textpath element which is
     >> nice for street names.
     >> 5) A gzip output would also be nice to reduce the file size
     >
     > This is handled automatically by GeoServer already. There is a
     > filter installed in GeoServer that compresses text based outputs
     > on the fly. You just have to add the svg mime type (image/svg+xml)
     > to the list of compressed types, look into web.xml.

    Great, works fine.

     >> 6) Since I need a lot of map data to test navigation I would like
     >> to import OSM data (OpenStreetMap) into the PostGIS database. I
     >> know the tables of OSM are a mess

    I have to correct myself. The data povided by GeoFabrik is pretty
    nice. When I used a tool osm2psql it imported the whole table
    structure. THe GeoFabrik data is very simple.

    Cheers
    Ivo

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Interesting. It even uses maven. Definitely worth exploring as a community module.

Chris Holmes wrote:

There's http://docs.codehaus.org/display/JGEOCODER which could potentially be integrated in some way. At least it's in Java, haven't looked at it much past that.

C

Justin Deoliveira wrote:

Hi,

As far as I know there has never been such a module. Unfortunately geocoding is nothing GeoServer can do.

-Justin

Alvaro Zabala wrote:

Hi,

Im looking for some geoserver's geocoding code I saw many years ago.

Am I wrong, or geoserver had a geocoding pluging in an elder version, to convert addresses in geographic coordinates?

Thanks in advance!

2008/11/20 Ivo Brodien <philotas@anonymised.com <mailto:philotas@anonymised.com>>

    Hello everybody,

    I am sorry for answering so late. Thanks for the motivating answers.

     >> 1) Shoud it be WMS or WFS service?
     > Andrea Aime wrote:
     > It depends, with vector output there's always a grey area. As a rule
     > of thum, if the output has any styling (it has to contain color, line
     > width, filled polygons and the like, and be driven by an SLD) then
     > it should be a WMS output format, since there is no concept of
     > styling in WFS.

    Ok, I will do it as a WMS service then, since I the plan ist to
    deliver styled maps.

     > GeoServer already has two SVG based output formats, one that
     > is based on Batik and that supports SLD almost fully but it's kind
     > of slow, and another one that supports very limited styling but
     > is faster.
     > I don't know anything about these SVG profiles for mobile hardware,
     > but I guess you'll need total control over the output, so I suggest
     > you look into the one that does not do full styling, and adapt
     > it to your needs. The classes can be found in the WMS module,
     > org.vfny.geoserver.wms.responses.map.svg package, and in particular
     > the low styling high performance classes are SVGMapProducer and
     > EncodeSVG, whilst the full styling lower performance is
     > SVGBatikMapProducer.

    I started wit the cloning and adapting the SVGMapProdcer.java,
    EncodeSVG.java and added my Render so it can be choosen via the
    WebInterface as the SVG-Renderer.

     >> 3) my biggest concern using geoserver is that I am afraid I can't
     >> make use of the PostGIS function AsSVG() <http://svg.cc/pg/assvg/&gt;
     >> where I could optimize output by setting relative coords and limit
     >> precision.
     >
     > True, a WMS output format receives a MapContext definitions, that
     > do in turn have FeatureSource object. A good output format must not
     > make assumptions on the backend, and the PostGIS data store won't
     > allow
     > you to make use of that function either.
     > Then again, you can use the GeoTools Decimator class to perform
     > a simple on the fly generalization (that class assumes you're using
     > a special coordinate sequence class for your geometries, we can
     > talk details about this in a separate mail).

    Okay so I guess I will just have to use external tools to make some
    nicer SVG Data instead of letting PostGIS make all the work, which I
    thought would be faster than doing it in Java. PostGIS also has the
    Simplify function which does the generalization. It would be nice, if
    we could talk about the Decimators generalization in separate mail as
    you suggested Andrea. It sounds as if I also could use this class to
    convert the geo data to my local screen device coordinate system, so
    the client does not neet to do calculations?

     >> 4) For my purpose I guess I would use SVG Basic instead of Tiny
     >> because Tiny profile does not support textpath element which is
     >> nice for street names.
     >> 5) A gzip output would also be nice to reduce the file size
     >
     > This is handled automatically by GeoServer already. There is a
     > filter installed in GeoServer that compresses text based outputs
     > on the fly. You just have to add the svg mime type (image/svg+xml)
     > to the list of compressed types, look into web.xml.

    Great, works fine.

     >> 6) Since I need a lot of map data to test navigation I would like
     >> to import OSM data (OpenStreetMap) into the PostGIS database. I
     >> know the tables of OSM are a mess

    I have to correct myself. The data povided by GeoFabrik is pretty
    nice. When I used a tool osm2psql it imported the whole table
    structure. THe GeoFabrik data is very simple.

    Cheers
    Ivo

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