[Geoserver-devel] Make it clear what's up and down in the layer group page

Jukka_Rahkonen · March 28, 2014, 7:22am

Hi,

I have not followed discussion very well but did someone already suggest having a simple image on the configuration page as a visual hint?

-Jukka Rahkonen-

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Jody Garnett wrote:

An alternate suggestion is to preview the layer group legend graphic on this page, then it will be a little more obvious what order the result is in? While it won’t necessarily be intuitive - I still like Justin’s idea of reversing the displayed order.

Jody Garnett

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Kevin Smith <ksmith@anonymised.com> wrote:

The problem with the silk forward and back buttons is that they don’t link the forward/back concept to position on the list. That’s why I exaggerated the vertical displacement of the overlapping pages and sloped the arrow at an angle. Switching to the existing forward and back buttons instead of up and down would help people make the right choice in terms of moving a particular layer, but it wouldn’t make it any more obvious how the order of the list related to the visual overlapping. In fact the silk icons go the wrong way with the forward shape higher than the rear shape.

Maybe if the blank spots for the up/forward button on the first row and down/backward button labels “front” and “back” instead of a blank space that would get the point across. Or maybe desaturated versions of the front and back buttons to indicate both that it can’t go further and why. Special versions of the silk forward/back buttons that have the forward shape lower might be a good idea too.

On 27 March 2014 09:07, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com8…> wrote:

I like the idea, but we’d need a designer to make silk like icons with the same concept

(full set here http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png)

Uh, unless we use “shape_move_forward” and “shape_move_backwards”, not

sure that will be clear for users though

Cheers

Andrea

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Chris_Snider · March 28, 2014, 2:30pm

An image as suggested below with the render order column next to each layer should get the message across to most users I would think.

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Intelligent Software Solutions, Inc.

From: Rahkonen Jukka (Tike) [mailto:jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com]
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 1:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] Make it clear what’s up and down in the layer group page

Hi,

I have not followed discussion very well but did someone already suggest having a simple image on the configuration page as a visual hint?

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Jody Garnett wrote:

An alternate suggestion is to preview the layer group legend graphic on this page, then it will be a little more obvious what order the result is in? While it won’t necessarily be intuitive - I still like Justin’s idea of reversing the displayed order.

Jody Garnett

On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Kevin Smith <ksmith@anonymised.com> wrote:

The problem with the silk forward and back buttons is that they don’t link the forward/back concept to position on the list. That’s why I exaggerated the vertical displacement of the overlapping pages and sloped the arrow at an angle. Switching to the existing forward and back buttons instead of up and down would help people make the right choice in terms of moving a particular layer, but it wouldn’t make it any more obvious how the order of the list related to the visual overlapping. In fact the silk icons go the wrong way with the forward shape higher than the rear shape.

Maybe if the blank spots for the up/forward button on the first row and down/backward button labels “front” and “back” instead of a blank space that would get the point across. Or maybe desaturated versions of the front and back buttons to indicate both that it can’t go further and why. Special versions of the silk forward/back buttons that have the forward shape lower might be a good idea too.

On 27 March 2014 09:07, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

I like the idea, but we’d need a designer to make silk like icons with the same concept

(full set here http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/previews/index_abc.png)

Uh, unless we use “shape_move_forward” and “shape_move_backwards”, not

sure that will be clear for users though

Cheers

Andrea

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