[Geoserver-devel] OSGEO request for incubation is a go

Andrea_Aime3 · June 30, 2009, 2:32pm

Hi,
looking at the OSGEO thread it would seem all of the
current PSC members have voted positively:

Andrea Aime: +1
Alessio Fabiani: +1
Chris Holmes: +1
Jody Garnett: +1
Justin Deoliveira: +1
Rob Harnak: +1

The PSC has thus showed full will to go on with the
OSGEO incubation. Congratulations!

Now, time to more on. This wiki page:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator

describes the steps one needs to take in order to
incubate.

I looked at the principles here:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
it seems to me we already satisfy most if not all of
them, pending for example a more careful review of our IP situation.

I guess the first step is to compile the questionnaire and
find a project mentor.
What about compiling the questionnaire as a page on the wiki?

Cheers
Andrea

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OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.

Andrea_Aime3 · June 30, 2009, 2:37pm

Andrea Aime ha scritto:

Hi,
looking at the OSGEO thread it would seem all of the
current PSC members have voted positively:

Andrea Aime: +1
Alessio Fabiani: +1
Chris Holmes: +1
Jody Garnett: +1
Justin Deoliveira: +1
Rob Harnak: +1

Erk, forgot about Simone, apologies

Cheers
Andrea

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Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.

Andrea_Aime3 · June 30, 2009, 2:53pm

Andrea Aime ha scritto:

Hi,
looking at the OSGEO thread it would seem all of the
current PSC members have voted positively:

Andrea Aime: +1
Alessio Fabiani: +1
Chris Holmes: +1
Jody Garnett: +1
Justin Deoliveira: +1
Rob Harnak: +1

Duh... Rob Atkinson: +1

So excited that I did not spot these two glaring naming
mistakes (the above and the missing Simone).
Apologies again...

Cheers
Andrea

--
Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.

Justin_Deoliveira · July 1, 2009, 12:21am

Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
looking at the OSGEO thread it would seem all of the
current PSC members have voted positively:

Andrea Aime: +1
Alessio Fabiani: +1
Chris Holmes: +1
Jody Garnett: +1
Justin Deoliveira: +1
Rob Harnak: +1

The PSC has thus showed full will to go on with the
OSGEO incubation. Congratulations!

Now, time to more on. This wiki page:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator

describes the steps one needs to take in order to
incubate.

I looked at the principles here:
http://www.osgeo.org/incubator/process/principles.html
it seems to me we already satisfy most if not all of
them, pending for example a more careful review of our IP situation.

I guess the first step is to compile the questionnaire and
find a project mentor.
What about compiling the questionnaire as a page on the wiki?

Works for me. Looking through the questionaire the only ones that we might not have an immediate answer for:

9. Which open source license(s) will the source code be released under

I mention it because their has been recent talk about modifying our licensing a bit. We might want to get that story straight before we submit, to avoid having to change the license while we are in or after incubation.

13. Is the code free of patents, trademarks, and do you control the copyright?

Do we officially control the copyright? Or are contributor agreements still coming in? On a related note the question of who should retain copyright has been raised by Jody. Should it be TOPP or OSGEO? Personally I would feel more comfortable asking contributors to give up copyright on their code to the foundation of which the project is a part of, rather than a single company. How do others feel about this?

18. If you do not intend to host any portion of this project using the OSGeo infrastructure, why should you be considered a member project of the OSGeo Foundation?

Do we want to make use of any osgeo infrastructure? Or are we happy with what we have now? If anything I might think the mailing list? I would be ok with svn except I don't like how the commits mailing list is set up and can't figure out who made a commit without opening the full email.

Cheers
Andrea

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OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Enterprise support for open source geospatial.

Andrea_Aime3 · July 1, 2009, 7:32am

Justin Deoliveira ha scritto:

13. Is the code free of patents, trademarks, and do you control the copyright?

Do we officially control the copyright? Or are contributor agreements still coming in? On a related note the question of who should retain copyright has been raised by Jody. Should it be TOPP or OSGEO? Personally I would feel more comfortable asking contributors to give up copyright on their code to the foundation of which the project is a part of, rather than a single company. How do others feel about this?

I agree it's easier to ask people to assign copyright to a foundation.
However this issue does not seem to have stopped OL to gain traction
(MetaCarta still retains the copyright afaik).

18. If you do not intend to host any portion of this project using the OSGeo infrastructure, why should you be considered a member project of the OSGeo Foundation?

Do we want to make use of any osgeo infrastructure? Or are we happy with what we have now? If anything I might think the mailing list? I would be ok with svn except I don't like how the commits mailing list is set up and can't figure out who made a commit without opening the full email.

Right, if we solve that switching svn would probably be the easiest.

Switching a 800 users ml to another system can be painful, not sure
we want that.

Another system that we could think switching may be jira to trac,
but I did not find any tool going in that direction (just the
opposite one) and we definitely don't want to switch over manually.

As for the site, we could have a single page on OSGEO pointing to our
existing infrastructure.

Finally, there is the file release system, which SF changes every other
day lately. Yet SF has this nice download counters and a distributed
delivery architecture. What can OSGEO offer in this respect?

Cheers
Andrea

--
Andrea Aime
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
Expert service straight from the developers.

jive · July 1, 2009, 7:36am

18. If you do not intend to host any portion of this project using the
OSGeo infrastructure, why should you be considered a member project of
the OSGeo Foundation?

Do we want to make use of any osgeo infrastructure? Or are we happy with
what we have now? If anything I might think the mailing list? I would be
ok with svn except I don't like how the commits mailing list is set up
and can't figure out who made a commit without opening the full email.

Right, if we solve that switching svn would probably be the easiest.

Switching a 800 users ml to another system can be painful, not sure
we want that.

Another system that we could think switching may be jira to trac,
but I did not find any tool going in that direction (just the
opposite one) and we definitely don't want to switch over manually.

As for the site, we could have a single page on OSGEO pointing to our
existing infrastructure.

Finally, there is the file release system, which SF changes every other
day lately. Yet SF has this nice download counters and a distributed
delivery architecture. What can OSGEO offer in this respect?

Hi Guys: This is the kind of stuff we get to discuss with a mentor

From previous experience none of this part matters too much; it is

more in terms of if OSGeo needs to organize any hardware resources to
support the project. Indeed I find the question a bit harshly worded.

The inncubation process is a bit open ended; those questions are only
to get the discussion going. As an example since the GeoServer
community has a strong sense of brand (and a very pretty website) I
expect a different discussion then MapServer (which rolled out a
default sphinx style).

Jody