[Geoserver-devel] Proposal: GeoServer Resource Browser GUI

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Hi,

Following up on the REST API for resources, we also would like a GUI:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-139

Please vote / criticise / comment.

Kind Regards
Niels

2

In this weeks meeting we unfroze the code base - so you have a small window of opportunity here. I will review shortly.

Niels can I ask your input input on the spring 4 thread. There were some questions about geofence rest API upgrade.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 7:45 AM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

Following up on the REST API for resources, we also would like a GUI:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-139

Please vote / criticise / comment.

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
wrote:

In this weeks meeting we unfroze the code base - so you have a small
window of opportunity here. I will review shortly.

Hum... did we? Open for business? I don't think that was even discussed, I
thought the focus was purely on spring4 upgrade
to avoid adding more instability to the system.

If anything is game, maybe we can look into doing some other changes, like
enabling jai-ext for default?

Cheers
Andrea

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Thought you covered this when discussing change to release schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going smoothly thus far.

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:08 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

In this weeks meeting we unfroze the code base - so you have a small window of opportunity here. I will review shortly.

Hum… did we? Open for business? I don’t think that was even discussed, I thought the focus was purely on spring4 upgrade
to avoid adding more instability to the system.

If anything is game, maybe we can look into doing some other changes, like enabling jai-ext for default?

Cheers
Andrea

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Thought you covered this when discussing change to release schedule. It
sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going smoothly thus far.

So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

Cheers
Andrea

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My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule updated to include a second beta (which would start a new code freeze), testing and then a RC (which would start a new master).

See “schedule” - https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade

What is unknown to me is the timeframe - so I am watching daily for news from Kevin and Justin.

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On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thought you covered this when discussing change to release schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going smoothly thus far.

So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

Cheers

Andrea

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This was my understanding also, but I think that Andrea is right that we did not make it an explicit decision, or record it in the notes.

Shall we be clear and say the new freeze is, say, one or two weeks before 2.9-beta2?

In my view, the purpose of the freeze is to allow the orderly assembly of a beta and the branching of the RC. I see no point in freezing too early and another month might be overkill.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 11/03/16 10:30, Jody Garnett wrote:

My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule updated to
include a second beta (which would start a new code freeze), testing and
then a RC (which would start a new master).

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I’ll reply to the spring4 thread with the latest.

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On 10 March 2016 at 12:01, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com…403…> wrote:

Thought you covered this when discussing change to release schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going smoothly thus far.

So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

Cheers

Andrea

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Hi Ben,
I'll open up a new thread about this.

Regards,
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On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

This was my understanding also, but I think that Andrea is right that we
did not make it an explicit decision, or record it in the notes.

Shall we be clear and say the new freeze is, say, one or two weeks
before 2.9-beta2?

In my view, the purpose of the freeze is to allow the orderly assembly
of a beta and the branching of the RC. I see no point in freezing too
early and another month might be overkill.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 11/03/16 10:30, Jody Garnett wrote:

My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule updated to
include a second beta (which would start a new code freeze), testing and
then a RC (which would start a new master).

--
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Director
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New Zealand

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So....... is anyone going to vote for this proposal?

Regards
Niels

On 12-03-16 21:24, Justin Deoliveira wrote:

I’ll reply to the spring4 thread with the latest.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:32 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com <mailto:jody.garnett@anonymised.com>> wrote:

    My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule updated
    to include a second beta (which would start a new code freeze),
    testing and then a RC (which would start a new master).

    See "schedule" -
    https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade

    What is unknown to me is the timeframe - so I am watching daily
    for news from Kevin and Justin.

    --
    Jody Garnett

    On 10 March 2016 at 12:01, Andrea Aime
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    <mailto:andrea.aime@anonymised.com>> wrote:

        On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett
        <jody.garnett@anonymised.com <mailto:jody.garnett@anonymised.com>> wrote:

            Thought you covered this when discussing change to release
            schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going
            smoothly thus far.

        So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

        Cheers
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Hi Niels,
first off, can you explain why we need a formal proposal to start with?
It seems to me a GUI for resources can start as a community module and grow
its way up to supported land.

Cheers
Andrea

···

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

So… is anyone going to vote for this proposal?

Regards
Niels

On 12-03-16 21:24, Justin Deoliveira wrote:

I’ll reply to the spring4 thread with the latest.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:32 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule updated to include a second beta (which would start a new code freeze), testing and then a RC (which would start a new master).

See “schedule” - https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade

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On 10 March 2016 at 12:01, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thought you covered this when discussing change to release schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going smoothly thus far.

So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

Cheers

Andrea

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That is something you should discuss with Jody, it was his request to me to do it this way.

Regards
Niels

On 14-03-16 12:06, Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi Niels,
first off, can you explain why we need a formal proposal to start with?
It seems to me a GUI for resources can start as a community module and grow
its way up to supported land.

Cheers
Andrea

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 11:57 AM, Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com <mailto:niels@anonymised.com>> wrote:

    So....... is anyone going to vote for this proposal?

    Regards
    Niels

    On 12-03-16 21:24, Justin Deoliveira wrote:

    I’ll reply to the spring4 thread with the latest.

    On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:32 PM Jody Garnett
    <jody.garnett@anonymised.com <mailto:jody.garnett@anonymised.com>> wrote:

        My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule
        updated to include a second beta (which would start a new
        code freeze), testing and then a RC (which would start a new
        master).

        See "schedule" -
        https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade

        What is unknown to me is the timeframe - so I am watching
        daily for news from Kevin and Justin.

        --
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        On 10 March 2016 at 12:01, Andrea Aime
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        <mailto:andrea.aime@anonymised.com>> wrote:

            On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett
            <jody.garnett@anonymised.com <mailto:jody.garnett@anonymised.com>>
            wrote:

                Thought you covered this when discussing change to
                release schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade
                is going smoothly thus far.

            So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

            Cheers
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Think we all got distracted by bigger release scheduling questions.

Quick feedback: do we need a download button - or could we make the file links clickable?
Any update on a wicketstuff compatible with spring 4?

···

On 14 March 2016 at 04:57, Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

So… is anyone going to vote for this proposal?

Regards
Niels

On 12-03-16 21:24, Justin Deoliveira wrote:

I’ll reply to the spring4 thread with the latest.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:32 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule updated to include a second beta (which would start a new code freeze), testing and then a RC (which would start a new master).

See “schedule” - https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade

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On 10 March 2016 at 12:01, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thought you covered this when discussing change to release schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going smoothly thus far.

So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

Cheers

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I had not considered a community module - since a proposal (and not a community module) was used when a REST API was added for resources I assumed the same would be needed when adding a GUI.

···

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Hi Niels,
first off, can you explain why we need a formal proposal to start with?
It seems to me a GUI for resources can start as a community module and grow
its way up to supported land.

Cheers
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So… is anyone going to vote for this proposal?

Regards
Niels

On 12-03-16 21:24, Justin Deoliveira wrote:

I’ll reply to the spring4 thread with the latest.

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 1:32 PM Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

My understanding is that the code freeze is off, schedule updated to include a second beta (which would start a new code freeze), testing and then a RC (which would start a new master).

See “schedule” - https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Spring-4-Upgrade

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On 10 March 2016 at 12:01, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thought you covered this when discussing change to release schedule. It sounds like the spring 4 upgrade is going smoothly thus far.

So, you confirm you think that anything goes?

Cheers

Andrea

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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com>
wrote:

I had not considered a community module - since a proposal (and not a
community module) was used when a REST API was added for resources I
assumed the same would be needed when adding a GUI.

I see... so I'm confused, you think of adding this to core, and the
proposal currently says it's scheduled for 2.10?
If it's for 2.10 I guess we can discuss and vote, if you are targeting
2.9.x instead we need to clarify what's going
on with the feature freeze before voting on proposals modifying core

Cheers
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Can we review/vote on the proposal as it stands (it says targeting 2.10). If the work is delayed due to 2.9 release slip then it can start in a feature branch (or as a community module if you think that will work - it should probably work).

···

On 14 March 2016 at 09:46, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

I had not considered a community module - since a proposal (and not a community module) was used when a REST API was added for resources I assumed the same would be needed when adding a GUI.

I see… so I’m confused, you think of adding this to core, and the proposal currently says it’s scheduled for 2.10?
If it’s for 2.10 I guess we can discuss and vote, if you are targeting 2.9.x instead we need to clarify what’s going
on with the feature freeze before voting on proposals modifying core

Cheers

Andrea

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Ok,
reviewing assuming target to 2.10.

I’m still wondering if we really want to have this as core, since unlike a REST API will literally be
“in users face”, but I guess it’s nice not to have to SFTP into a remote server to change files
(even when the data dir storage is indeed made of files).

At the same time, it means that the GUI needs to work fine with the file system… like, what if
there is a very large number of files (styles, layers, whatever), is the UI going to scale up enough
to handle them, or may it lock up?
Even if it’s painful, there are deploys with thousands of layers around, and if one needs to modify
say a FTL template, there is an actual need to scan in the workspaces directory to place it in the
right spot, e.g. next to the target layer (oh fun, and if it’s JDBCConfig, you have to create by hand
all the intermediate folders that would be missing because those config objects are in the jdbconfig?)

Looking at the upload dialog, if one can select the target in the tree and then have that
bit pre-populated in the upload GUI, is there actually a need to allow choosing on yet another browser
a different location? Just exit the dialog and choose a different target instead?

Which is btw what you are doing in the rename/move case no?

Merging toghether rename and move seems a lot like a unix approach, but I guess the common user
would be more comfortable having two simpler dialogs “rename” and “move” instead, where
rename just has the new name, and move just the target location, instead of both. Not a strong
opinion on this one, but I’m figuring the classic windows user be a bit confused by it.

Same goes for copy… trying to imagine what one might want to copy… maybe ftl templates?
Those are normally not renamed, but… they are normally transferred in triplets.

Have you considered a clipboard like approach instead, accumulate more than one file in it,
and the allow pasting/moving to a target location? Not sure how much harder it would be,
just wondering, it would make some interaction more natural (like trying to copy/move FTL files
around).

Ok, I guess that’s enough feedback for one go :slight_smile:

Cheers
Andrea

···

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Can we review/vote on the proposal as it stands (it says targeting 2.10). If the work is delayed due to 2.9 release slip then it can start in a feature branch (or as a community module if you think that will work - it should probably work).

–

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On 14 March 2016 at 09:46, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com…403…> wrote:

I had not considered a community module - since a proposal (and not a community module) was used when a REST API was added for resources I assumed the same would be needed when adding a GUI.

I see… so I’m confused, you think of adding this to core, and the proposal currently says it’s scheduled for 2.10?
If it’s for 2.10 I guess we can discuss and vote, if you are targeting 2.9.x instead we need to clarify what’s going
on with the feature freeze before voting on proposals modifying core

Cheers

Andrea

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If you are using JDBCConfig, there is no support for direct file editing of the catalogue. All manipulations should already be supported by the catalogue UI pages. This GUI is for JDBCStore resources. This is necessary, because the user might want to upload a file to a not yet existing directory. Mind that resourcestores don’t support the creation of empty directories, directories can only be created on the fly. With the destination, it is the same deal. Perhaps, but the benefit is that you can move dir and name at the same time and do what would otherwise need two operations in one. I would in any case keep the button saying “move/rename” (and not just move) so that people know what to click on when they need to rename. Once they open the dialog, the rest should be trivial. They only need to change the dir/name if they want to. I am a linux person though. This is an interesting idea, I would definitely consider as an alternative. Interested to hear what others think. Regards Niels

···

Hello Andrea,

Thanks for your review! Responses are inline.

On 16-03-16 19:46, Andrea Aime wrote:

At the same time, it means that the GUI needs to work fine with the file system… like, what if
there is a very large number of files (styles, layers, whatever), is the UI going to scale up enough
to handle them, or may it lock up?
Even if it’s painful, there are deploys with thousands of layers around, and if one needs to modify
say a FTL template, there is an actual need to scan in the workspaces directory to place it in the
right spot, e.g. next to the target layer (oh fun, and if it’s JDBCConfig, you have to create by hand
all the intermediate folders that would be missing because those config objects are in the jdbconfig?)

only

Looking at the upload dialog, if one can select the target in the tree and then have that
bit pre-populated in the upload GUI, is there actually a need to allow choosing on yet another browser
a different location? Just exit the dialog and choose a different target instead?

Which is btw what you are doing in the rename/move case no?

Merging toghether rename and move seems a lot like a unix approach, but I guess the common user
would be more comfortable having two simpler dialogs “rename” and “move” instead, where
rename just has the new name, and move just the target location, instead of both. Not a strong
opinion on this one, but I’m figuring the classic windows user be a bit confused by it.

Same goes for copy… trying to imagine what one might want to copy… maybe ftl templates?
Those are normally not renamed, but… they are normally transferred in triplets.

Have you considered a clipboard like approach instead, accumulate more than one file in it,
and the allow pasting/moving to a target location? Not sure how much harder it would be,
just wondering, it would make some interaction more natural (like trying to copy/move FTL files
around).

19

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

If you are using JDBCConfig, there is no support for direct file editing
of the catalogue. All manipulations should already be supported by the
catalogue UI pages. This GUI is *only* for JDBCStore resources.

Wait, I lost you there... I'm not sure this matches Jody's mail stating
that this work will be core.

If it's core, it cannot work only with a module that is a community one, it
has to work also with the file system based resource store.
Otherwise we are talking about a GUI for JDBCStore, and as such it should
be a community module itself, e.g.,
community/web-jdbcstore

Plus, FTL templates are on the file system, they are not handled by
catalog, there is no GUI for them... so they should be handled JDBCStore
anyways no?
The lookup of FTL files is based on the file system
workspaces/<workspace>/<store>/<resource> structure, .e.g, if you place the
template files
down at the resource level, they affect only that resource, if you place
them at the store, all resources from that store,
at the workspace, anything in the workspace, if it in the worspaces folder,
then everything.
See a fuller explanation here:
http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/tutorials/freemarker.html

The same goes for some other files, such as the WFS simple feature schema
mapping:
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/services/wfs/schemamapping.html

Given that folders are not even there, this will
become painful for users that are trying to rebuild manually a directory
structure that
is not there: they have it easy in the file system based resource store,
since the directories
are already there, they just need to locate the right spot and add the
freemarker templates in it,
with the resource store approach instead they will have to manually type
the right path, no typos, no mistakes,
or the FTL files they add will not be used by GeoServer.

This might of course be solved by a customized GUI to handle the FTL files
(we already have rest resources
to do that). There is however nothing at all for the WFS schema mapping.

Looking at the upload dialog, if one can select the target in the tree and
then have that
bit pre-populated in the upload GUI, is there actually a need to allow
choosing on yet another browser
a different location? Just exit the dialog and choose a different target
instead?

This is necessary, because the user might want to upload a file to a not
yet existing directory. Mind that resourcestores don't support the creation
of empty directories, directories can only be created on the fly.

Right... that will be something difficult to explain users... (for
reference, even developers get sometimes confused by git not tracking
empty directories)

Merging toghether rename and move seems a lot like a unix approach, but I
guess the common user
would be more comfortable having two simpler dialogs "rename" and "move"
instead, where
rename just has the new name, and move just the target location, instead
of both. Not a strong
opinion on this one, but I'm figuring the classic windows user be a bit
confused by it.

Perhaps, but the benefit is that you can move dir and name at the same
time and do what would otherwise need two operations in one.
I would in any case keep the button saying "move/rename" (and not just
move) so that people know what to click on when they need to rename. Once
they open the dialog, the rest should be trivial. They only need to change
the dir/name if they want to. I am a linux person though.

Yep, I'm worried that the system is going to be more dev friendly than user
friendly. Wondering, was
a UI guy or an interaction designed consulted? Is there anyone in the
community reading this
message with such experience?

Regards
Andrea

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Sorry I misspoke. I meant to say it is only for the resourcestore. But that was based on a misunderstanding from my part, I thought you meant it would be able to edit jdbcconfig catalog data.

The catalog directory structure could still be automatically created, but I would recommend giving these things a custom UI.

Regards
Niels

···

On 03/19/2016 08:08 PM, Andrea Aime wrote:

On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 3:42 PM, Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

If you are using JDBCConfig, there is no support for direct file editing of the catalogue. All manipulations should already be supported by the catalogue UI pages. This GUI is only for JDBCStore resources.

Wait, I lost you there… I’m not sure this matches Jody’s mail stating that this work will be core.

If it’s core, it cannot work only with a module that is a community one, it has to work also with the file system based resource store.
Otherwise we are talking about a GUI for JDBCStore, and as such it should be a community module itself, e.g.,
community/web-jdbcstore

Plus, FTL templates are on the file system, they are not handled by catalog, there is no GUI for them… so they should be handled JDBCStore anyways no?
The lookup of FTL files is based on the file system workspaces/// structure, .e.g, if you place the template files
down at the resource level, they affect only that resource, if you place them at the store, all resources from that store,
at the workspace, anything in the workspace, if it in the worspaces folder, then everything.
See a fuller explanation here:

http://docs.geoserver.org/stable/en/user/tutorials/freemarker.html

The same goes for some other files, such as the WFS simple feature schema mapping:
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/services/wfs/schemamapping.html

Given that folders are not even there, this will

become painful for users that are trying to rebuild manually a directory structure that
is not there: they have it easy in the file system based resource store, since the directories
are already there, they just need to locate the right spot and add the freemarker templates in it,
with the resource store approach instead they will have to manually type the right path, no typos, no mistakes,
or the FTL files they add will not be used by GeoServer.

This might of course be solved by a customized GUI to handle the FTL files (we already have rest resources
to do that). There is however nothing at all for the WFS schema mapping.

Looking at the upload dialog, if one can select the target in the tree and then have that
bit pre-populated in the upload GUI, is there actually a need to allow choosing on yet another browser
a different location? Just exit the dialog and choose a different target instead?

This is necessary, because the user might want to upload a file to a not yet existing directory. Mind that resourcestores don’t support the creation of empty directories, directories can only be created on the fly.

Right… that will be something difficult to explain users… (for reference, even developers get sometimes confused by git not tracking
empty directories)

Merging toghether rename and move seems a lot like a unix approach, but I guess the common user

would be more comfortable having two simpler dialogs “rename” and “move” instead, where
rename just has the new name, and move just the target location, instead of both. Not a strong
opinion on this one, but I’m figuring the classic windows user be a bit confused by it.

Perhaps, but the benefit is that you can move dir and name at the same time and do what would otherwise need two operations in one.
I would in any case keep the button saying “move/rename” (and not just move) so that people know what to click on when they need to rename. Once they open the dialog, the rest should be trivial. They only need to change the dir/name if they want to. I am a linux person though.

Yep, I’m worried that the system is going to be more dev friendly than user friendly. Wondering, was
a UI guy or an interaction designed consulted? Is there anyone in the community reading this
message with such experience?

Regards
Andrea

–

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http://goo.gl/it488V for more information.

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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via di Montramito 3/A
55054 Massarosa (LU)
phone: +39 0584 962313

fax: +39 0584 1660272
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