[Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

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1

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

···

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@…403…>
Kopio: Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

–

Jody Garnett

On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

Geoserver-devel mailing list
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2

Thank you, Jukka!

Can I assume then that the absent votes are +0 and that both proposals are accepted?

Kind Regards

Niels

···

On 21/04/2022 12:39, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett jody.garnett@anonymised.com
Kopio: Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

–

Jody Garnett

On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

Geoserver-devel mailing list
Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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3

Hi Niels,
let’s see what the rules say:

https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/gsip.html#voting-on-a-gsip

In particular:

Voting remains open for ten days or until all PSC members have cast their vote.

  • At the end of ten days time any remaining votes are assumed to be +0.

A GSIP is accepted if it receives:

  • at least 30% “+1” votes, and
  • no “-1” votes (or all feedback from any “-1” votes has been addressed and any “-1” voters have changed their votes)

Considering Jukka’s last vote (still to be recorded in the GSIPs) I believe both proposals have passed.

Cheers
Andrea

···

Regards,

Andrea Aime

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That said… while Jody did not vote, his CLA feedback is valid. We can’t have the metadata module if the CLA bit
has not been addressed. This is a blocker.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Niels,
let’s see what the rules say:

https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/gsip.html#voting-on-a-gsip

In particular:

Voting remains open for ten days or until all PSC members have cast their vote.

  • At the end of ten days time any remaining votes are assumed to be +0.

A GSIP is accepted if it receives:

  • at least 30% “+1” votes, and
  • no “-1” votes (or all feedback from any “-1” votes has been addressed and any “-1” voters have changed their votes)

Considering Jukka’s last vote (still to be recorded in the GSIPs) I believe both proposals have passed.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 3:02 PM Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Thank you, Jukka!

Can I assume then that the absent votes are +0 and that both proposals are accepted?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 21/04/2022 12:39, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett jody.garnett@anonymised.com
Kopio: Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

–

Jody Garnett

On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@anonymised.comurceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

Geoserver-devel mailing list
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–

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I will vote +0 for both (sorry I have not had a chance to review closely).

Jody

···

–
Jody Garnett

6

I understood from Jody that nothing per se had to happen (“you should be good”). perhaps I misunderstood?

Kind Regards

Niels

···

On 24/04/2022 09:56, Andrea Aime wrote:

That said… while Jody did not vote, his CLA feedback is valid. We can’t have the metadata module if the CLA bit
has not been addressed. This is a blocker.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Niels,
let’s see what the rules say:

https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/gsip.html#voting-on-a-gsip

In particular:

Voting remains open for ten days or until all PSC members have cast their vote.

  • At the end of ten days time any remaining votes are assumed to be +0.

A GSIP is accepted if it receives:

  • at least 30% “+1” votes, and
  • no “-1” votes (or all feedback from any “-1” votes has been addressed and any “-1” voters have changed their votes)

Considering Jukka’s last vote (still to be recorded in the GSIPs) I believe both proposals have passed.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 3:02 PM Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Thank you, Jukka!

Can I assume then that the absent votes are +0 and that both proposals are accepted?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 21/04/2022 12:39, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett jody.garnett@anonymised.com
Kopio: Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

–

Jody Garnett

On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

Geoserver-devel mailing list
Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel

Geoserver-devel mailing list
Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
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–

Regards,

Andrea Aime

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Ah, I just remembered this one:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186

This proposal allows to contribute without CLA, even at the extension level (so far I believe we have only one at the community module level, GSR).
Check out the restrictions for this kind of module.

Cheers
Andrea

···

Regards,

Andrea Aime

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Hi,

The code is not released under a different license. I contributed it under the CLA, which I signed. The question is only if it is necessary for the organization who paid for the work to sign the (corporate) CLA too. I thought Jody suggested this was not strictly necessary if I got the permission to contribute, perhaps he can clarify?

The issue is simply a matter of red tape, about who should/can actually sign it; not an unwillingness to contribute under the geoserver license.

Kind Regards

Niels

···

On 24/04/2022 10:25, Andrea Aime wrote:

Ah, I just remembered this one:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186

This proposal allows to contribute without CLA, even at the extension level (so far I believe we have only one at the community module level, GSR).
Check out the restrictions for this kind of module.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:08 AM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

I understood from Jody that nothing per se had to happen (“you should be good”). perhaps I misunderstood?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 24/04/2022 09:56, Andrea Aime wrote:

That said… while Jody did not vote, his CLA feedback is valid. We can’t have the metadata module if the CLA bit
has not been addressed. This is a blocker.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Niels,
let’s see what the rules say:

https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/gsip.html#voting-on-a-gsip

In particular:

Voting remains open for ten days or until all PSC members have cast their vote.

  • At the end of ten days time any remaining votes are assumed to be +0.

A GSIP is accepted if it receives:

  • at least 30% “+1” votes, and
  • no “-1” votes (or all feedback from any “-1” votes has been addressed and any “-1” voters have changed their votes)

Considering Jukka’s last vote (still to be recorded in the GSIPs) I believe both proposals have passed.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 3:02 PM Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Thank you, Jukka!

Can I assume then that the absent votes are +0 and that both proposals are accepted?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 21/04/2022 12:39, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett jody.garnett@anonymised.com
Kopio: Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

–

Jody Garnett

On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

Geoserver-devel mailing list
Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel

Geoserver-devel mailing list
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–

Regards,

Andrea Aime

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fax: +39 0584 1660272

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If the customer is willing to sign the code contribution thing, which provides a section b to list the software being contributed to osgeo that is the most clear thing.

This code was always developed in the shared repo by folks that have signed the CLA? Or is their code that was copied on written by others …

···

–
Jody Garnett

10

Hi Jody, it was written by me who signed the CLA.

Kind Regards

Niels

···

On 25/04/2022 18:27, Jody Garnett wrote:

If the customer is willing to sign the code contribution thing, which provides a section b to list the software being contributed to osgeo that is the most clear thing.

This code was always developed in the shared repo by folks that have signed the CLA? Or is their code that was copied on written by others …

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:09 PM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

The code is not released under a different license. I contributed it under the CLA, which I signed. The question is only if it is necessary for the organization who paid for the work to sign the (corporate) CLA too. I thought Jody suggested this was not strictly necessary if I got the permission to contribute, perhaps he can clarify?

The issue is simply a matter of red tape, about who should/can actually sign it; not an unwillingness to contribute under the geoserver license.

Kind Regards

Niels

On 24/04/2022 10:25, Andrea Aime wrote:

Ah, I just remembered this one:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186

This proposal allows to contribute without CLA, even at the extension level (so far I believe we have only one at the community module level, GSR).
Check out the restrictions for this kind of module.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:08 AM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

I understood from Jody that nothing per se had to happen (“you should be good”). perhaps I misunderstood?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 24/04/2022 09:56, Andrea Aime wrote:

That said… while Jody did not vote, his CLA feedback is valid. We can’t have the metadata module if the CLA bit
has not been addressed. This is a blocker.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Niels,
let’s see what the rules say:

https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/gsip.html#voting-on-a-gsip

In particular:

Voting remains open for ten days or until all PSC members have cast their vote.

  • At the end of ten days time any remaining votes are assumed to be +0.

A GSIP is accepted if it receives:

  • at least 30% “+1” votes, and
  • no “-1” votes (or all feedback from any “-1” votes has been addressed and any “-1” voters have changed their votes)

Considering Jukka’s last vote (still to be recorded in the GSIPs) I believe both proposals have passed.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 3:02 PM Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Thank you, Jukka!

Can I assume then that the absent votes are +0 and that both proposals are accepted?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 21/04/2022 12:39, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett jody.garnett@anonymised.com
Kopio: Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

–

Jody Garnett

On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

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Hi,

For a community module promotion there is a step:

“Updating the website template to make the extension available.”

Is this meant to add a link on this page:

https://geoserver.org/release/2.20.4/

And where does one modify this page?

Kind Regards

Niels

···

On 25/04/2022 18:27, Jody Garnett wrote:

If the customer is willing to sign the code contribution thing, which provides a section b to list the software being contributed to osgeo that is the most clear thing.

This code was always developed in the shared repo by folks that have signed the CLA? Or is their code that was copied on written by others …

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:09 PM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

The code is not released under a different license. I contributed it under the CLA, which I signed. The question is only if it is necessary for the organization who paid for the work to sign the (corporate) CLA too. I thought Jody suggested this was not strictly necessary if I got the permission to contribute, perhaps he can clarify?

The issue is simply a matter of red tape, about who should/can actually sign it; not an unwillingness to contribute under the geoserver license.

Kind Regards

Niels

On 24/04/2022 10:25, Andrea Aime wrote:

Ah, I just remembered this one:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186

This proposal allows to contribute without CLA, even at the extension level (so far I believe we have only one at the community module level, GSR).
Check out the restrictions for this kind of module.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:08 AM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

I understood from Jody that nothing per se had to happen (“you should be good”). perhaps I misunderstood?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 24/04/2022 09:56, Andrea Aime wrote:

That said… while Jody did not vote, his CLA feedback is valid. We can’t have the metadata module if the CLA bit
has not been addressed. This is a blocker.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Niels,
let’s see what the rules say:

https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/gsip.html#voting-on-a-gsip

In particular:

Voting remains open for ten days or until all PSC members have cast their vote.

  • At the end of ten days time any remaining votes are assumed to be +0.

A GSIP is accepted if it receives:

  • at least 30% “+1” votes, and
  • no “-1” votes (or all feedback from any “-1” votes has been addressed and any “-1” voters have changed their votes)

Considering Jukka’s last vote (still to be recorded in the GSIPs) I believe both proposals have passed.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 3:02 PM Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Thank you, Jukka!

Can I assume then that the absent votes are +0 and that both proposals are accepted?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 21/04/2022 12:39, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
Vastaanottaja: Jody Garnett jody.garnett@anonymised.com
Kopio: Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

–

Jody Garnett

On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

Geoserver-devel mailing list
Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel

Geoserver-devel mailing list
Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel

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12

Check out the website repo and make a change to the _layout

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver.github.io/blob/main/_layouts/release_220.html

We will need a new release_221.html file soon so you can start with that one.

Also
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver.github.io/blob/main/_layouts/nightly.html

···

–
Jody Garnett

13

Hi Niels,
there is a fair number of classes in the metadata module reporting another author as well:

src/main/java/org/geoserver/metadata/data/dto/AttributeConfiguration.java: * @author Timothy De Bock - timothy.debock.github@anonymised.com

We don’t know how he is. Did he sign a CLA? Did the organization employing him?
If not, we can still proceed using the GSIP for “found code” I cited previously:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186

Cheers
Andrea

···

Regards,

Andrea Aime

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Hello Andrea,

Indeed, he contributed as part of the same project. I don’t know if he signed, I could check but I understand we need to get the organization to sign anyway, does it then still matter if they do?

About the “found code”. I’m not sure if/how it applies, it is not that the code was released under a different license, it does not have any other headers then the osgeo ones. What would we need to do if we used that option?

Kind Regards

Niels

···

On 09/05/2022 12:00, Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi Niels,
there is a fair number of classes in the metadata module reporting another author as well:

src/main/java/org/geoserver/metadata/data/dto/AttributeConfiguration.java: * @author Timothy De Bock - timothy.debock.github@anonymised.com

We don’t know how he is. Did he sign a CLA? Did the organization employing him?
If not, we can still proceed using the GSIP for “found code” I cited previously:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186

Cheers
Andrea

On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 7:49 AM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Jody, it was written by me who signed the CLA.

Kind Regards

Niels

On 25/04/2022 18:27, Jody Garnett wrote:

If the customer is willing to sign the code contribution thing, which provides a section b to list the software being contributed to osgeo that is the most clear thing.

This code was always developed in the shared repo by folks that have signed the CLA? Or is their code that was copied on written by others …

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:09 PM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

The code is not released under a different license. I contributed it under the CLA, which I signed. The question is only if it is necessary for the organization who paid for the work to sign the (corporate) CLA too. I thought Jody suggested this was not strictly necessary if I got the permission to contribute, perhaps he can clarify?

The issue is simply a matter of red tape, about who should/can actually sign it; not an unwillingness to contribute under the geoserver license.

Kind Regards

Niels

On 24/04/2022 10:25, Andrea Aime wrote:

Ah, I just remembered this one:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186

This proposal allows to contribute without CLA, even at the extension level (so far I believe we have only one at the community module level, GSR).
Check out the restrictions for this kind of module.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 10:08 AM Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

I understood from Jody that nothing per se had to happen (“you should be good”). perhaps I misunderstood?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 24/04/2022 09:56, Andrea Aime wrote:

That said… while Jody did not vote, his CLA feedback is valid. We can’t have the metadata module if the CLA bit
has not been addressed. This is a blocker.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Niels,
let’s see what the rules say:

https://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/developer/policies/gsip.html#voting-on-a-gsip

In particular:

Voting remains open for ten days or until all PSC members have cast their vote.

  • At the end of ten days time any remaining votes are assumed to be +0.

A GSIP is accepted if it receives:

  • at least 30% “+1” votes, and
  • no “-1” votes (or all feedback from any “-1” votes has been addressed and any “-1” voters have changed their votes)

Considering Jukka’s last vote (still to be recorded in the GSIPs) I believe both proposals have passed.

Cheers
Andrea

On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 3:02 PM Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Thank you, Jukka!

Can I assume then that the absent votes are +0 and that both proposals are accepted?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 21/04/2022 12:39, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) wrote:

+1 for both GSIP-311 and GSIP-312.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Lähettäjä: Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Lähetetty: torstai 21. huhtikuuta 2022 12.01
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Aihe: Re: [Geoserver-devel] proposals: promote metadata and csw-iso to extensions

Hello everyone,

So if I get it right GSIP-311 has sufficient votes (three +1, no -1), but GSIP-312 doesn’t (no -1, but only two +1). Does anyone else still want to add a vote?

Kind Regards

Niels

On 05/04/2022 05:42, Jody Garnett wrote:

Hey Niels!

Not quite sure I understand the CLA question; if you did the work on behalf of a particular government department and had their permission/authority to donate to OSGeo then you should be good. If you are really interested in being careful you could ask the manager (whoever paid you or authorized the work) to sign a “Corporate contributor license”, and name the body of the work (metadata and csw-iso) as the contributed work in “Schedule B” at the bottom of the document.

Although it says “corporate” it is really:

​"You" (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation. “You” (or “Your”) shall mean the copyright owner or legal entity authorized by the copyright owner that is making this Agreement with the Foundation.

So a government should be able to sign it.

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On Apr 4, 2022 at 4:49:08 AM, Niels Charlier via Geoserver-devel <geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

Hello,

I have written up two proposals to promote community modules “metadata”
and “csw-iso” to extensions.

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-311

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-312

I believe stability, test coverage, users, are all okay. Please discuss.

One question about copyrights though: the metadata module was mostly
written by me (who signed CLA) as part of a contract particular
government department. I believe they technically have copyrights, and
agreed to open source it. What would be required though? Should they
sign CLA for businesses?

Kind Regards

Niels

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“found code” is for code that is license compatible, but for which we have no CLA on record, meaning we cannot mix it with other code that might
be donated back to GeoTools or otherwise relicensed at a later stage. So the module needs to be labelled and isolated.

Read carefully the “motivation” for the GSIP, and the proposal section as well: https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186#motivation

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On 10/05/2022 11:24, Andrea Aime wrote:

"found code" is for code that is license compatible, but for which we have no CLA on record, meaning we cannot mix it with other code that might
be donated back to GeoTools or otherwise relicensed at a later stage. So the module needs to be labelled and isolated.

Read carefully the "motivation" for the GSIP, and the proposal section as well: https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186#motivation

So how would I in this particular case deal with these stipulations:

- "The licence is compatible with the GeoServer licence, and clearly identified both in the source code, in the documentation of the module, and in the module release zip package":

So can this just be geoserver license? There is no other license involved.

- The headers from the original files are maintained, and not updated to indicate (c) OSGeo Foundation.

But the headers already indicate this... Because the code was explicitly allowed to be donated to geoserver, I added the geoserver headers. There was never any other release of the code than this one.

Regards

Niels

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Niels the trouble is one of the contributors does not have a CLA on file with OSGeo. We need to look up this individuals name so we can stop being vague on this topic.

@author Timothy De Bock - timothy.debock.github@anonymised.com

So if you want you can update the headers to say (based on Timothy’s linked in profile):

  • (c) OSGeo and others
  • (c) OSGeo and Geo Solutions; or
  • (c) OSGeo and Department of RWO; or
  • (c) OSGeo and Department of DOV

Thank you for your patience on this topic; I want to be clear as others trying to figure this out the future can learn from this common example.

So two options:
a) the code was written by you (does not seem correct), and you have signed an OSGeo CLA (true), we bring it is as an extension like normal
b) the code was written by you and Timothy (or his employer, or on behalf of a customer), we update the header to say “(c) OSGeo and others” and include a LICENSE.md and NOTICE.md file in the extension folder

Aside I think you intended to link to https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-212 and https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-211

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Hello Jody,

Timothy and I worked on this project together for the same organisation (DOV); I believe they are the only ones who own the copyrights on the code.

The problem has been completely resolved now; DOV has signed and submitted the CLA for the modules that were contributed to geoserver.

Kind Regards

Niels

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On 11/05/2022 01:44, Jody Garnett wrote:

Niels the trouble is one of the contributors does not have a CLA on file with OSGeo. We need to look up this individuals name so we can stop being vague on this topic.

@author Timothy De Bock - timothy.debock.github@anonymised.com

So if you want you can update the headers to say (based on Timothy’s linked in profile):

  • (c) OSGeo and others
  • (c) OSGeo and Geo Solutions; or
  • (c) OSGeo and Department of RWO; or
  • (c) OSGeo and Department of DOV

Thank you for your patience on this topic; I want to be clear as others trying to figure this out the future can learn from this common example.

So two options:
a) the code was written by you (does not seem correct), and you have signed an OSGeo CLA (true), we bring it is as an extension like normal
b) the code was written by you and Timothy (or his employer, or on behalf of a customer), we update the header to say “(c) OSGeo and others” and include a LICENSE.md and NOTICE.md file in the extension folder

Aside I think you intended to link to https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-212 and https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-211

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On May 10, 2022 at 11:56:28 AM, Niels Charlier <niels@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 10/05/2022 11:24, Andrea Aime wrote:

“found code” is for code that is license compatible, but for which we have no CLA on record, meaning we cannot mix it with other code that might

be donated back to GeoTools or otherwise relicensed at a later stage. So the module needs to be labelled and isolated.

Read carefully the “motivation” for the GSIP, and the proposal section as well: https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-186#motivation

So how would I in this particular case deal with these stipulations:

  • “The licence is compatible with the GeoServer licence, and clearly identified both in the source code, in the documentation of the module, and in the module release zip package”:

So can this just be geoserver license? There is no other license involved.

  • The headers from the original files are maintained, and not updated to indicate (c) OSGeo Foundation.

But the headers already indicate this… Because the code was explicitly allowed to be donated to geoserver, I added the geoserver headers. There was never any other release of the code than this one.

Regards

Niels

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That is great, indeed an ideal outcome, thank you for resolving this Niels.

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Hi Niels,
that’s excellent, then I guess it’s time to make the PRs moving the modules up.

Cheers
Andrea

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