[Geoserver-devel] Pull request adding support for time relative expressions in WMS-T

Hi,
I would like to bring people attention to this pull request:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/823

It adds support for time relative expressions in this form:

  • private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_H = “BACK2H/PRESENT”;
  • private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_D = “BACK10D/PRESENT”;
  • private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_W = “BACK400W/PRESENT”;

Any feedback we might have on the syntax or implementation?

Cheers
Andrea

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So this is for WMS-T … as in WMS Temporal.

The syntax is clear.

Here are two ideas for quick consideration:

CQL Time Duration

WFS 2.0 has temporal functions which we have dragged into CQL, any advantage to being consistent with the syntax here: http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/filter/ecql_reference.html#ecql-period

In particular the representation of time period seems nice and terse:

private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_H = “P2H/PRESENT”;
private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_D = “P10D/PRESENT”;

(There was no duration specified in weeks, I also did not see a representation for PRESENT, NOW … or FIRST or LATEST)

WFS 2.0 FeatureId madness

This is probably a terrible idea, but you may wish to steal language such as FIRST and LATEST above.

The second thing WFS 2.0 has going on is the ability to query FeatureId based on previous, first or by date (see http://docs.geotools.org/latest/userguide/library/opengis/filter.html#identifer).

Any advantage to stealing the language of FIRST, PREVIOUS, etc…?

private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_Y = “FIRST/P1Y”;

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On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:27 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I would like to bring people attention to this pull request:
https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/823

It adds support for time relative expressions in this form:

  • private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_H = “BACK2H/PRESENT”;
  • private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_D = “BACK10D/PRESENT”;
  • private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_W = “BACK400W/PRESENT”;

Any feedback we might have on the syntax or implementation?

Cheers
Andrea

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On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

So this is for WMS-T ... as in WMS Temporal.

The syntax is clear.

Here are two ideas for quick consideration:

*CQL Time Duration*

WFS 2.0 has temporal functions which we have dragged into CQL, any
advantage to being consistent with the syntax here:
http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/filter/ecql_reference.html#ecql-period

In particular the representation of time period seems nice and terse:

private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_H = "P2H/PRESENT";
private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_D = "P10D/PRESENT";

(There was no duration specified in weeks, I also did not see a
representation for PRESENT, NOW .. or FIRST or LATEST)

P standard for period, so that would not work. I guess it may may sense to
use R (relative?), and get something
like R-2H/PRESENT.

*WFS 2.0 FeatureId madness*

This is probably a terrible idea, but you may wish to steal language such
as FIRST and LATEST above.

The second thing WFS 2.0 has going on is the ability to query FeatureId
based on previous, first or by date (see
http://docs.geotools.org/latest/userguide/library/opengis/filter.html#identifer
).

Any advantage to stealing the language of FIRST, PREVIOUS, etc..?

private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_Y = "FIRST/P1Y";

Hmm... I would not go there, WMS-T often works on a moving window, so FIRST
and LATEST change daily or more often,
you never know what they mean.

Cheers
Andrea

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That is cool, those ideas were only for another point of reference.

If we do not match ECQL exactly then it is probably not worth it. Could we skip the “prefix” and just use:

private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_H = “2H/PRESENT”;
private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_D = “10D/PRESENT”;

I guess I do not understand what “BACK” is needed for? I liked the ECQL technique of using “DURATION/TIME” or “TIME/DURATION”.

“BACK2H/PRESENT” is a belt and suspenders, I already know you are going to go back since the duration is before the time. It is not like you are going to say “FORWARD2H/PRESENT” (instead you would say “PRESENT/2H”).

Cheers,
Jody

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On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:12 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Jody Garnett

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

So this is for WMS-T … as in WMS Temporal.

The syntax is clear.

Here are two ideas for quick consideration:

CQL Time Duration

WFS 2.0 has temporal functions which we have dragged into CQL, any advantage to being consistent with the syntax here: http://docs.geoserver.org/latest/en/user/filter/ecql_reference.html#ecql-period

In particular the representation of time period seems nice and terse:

private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_H = “P2H/PRESENT”;
private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_D = “P10D/PRESENT”;

(There was no duration specified in weeks, I also did not see a representation for PRESENT, NOW … or FIRST or LATEST)

P standard for period, so that would not work. I guess it may may sense to use R (relative?), and get something
like R-2H/PRESENT.

WFS 2.0 FeatureId madness

This is probably a terrible idea, but you may wish to steal language such as FIRST and LATEST above.

The second thing WFS 2.0 has going on is the ability to query FeatureId based on previous, first or by date (see http://docs.geotools.org/latest/userguide/library/opengis/filter.html#identifer).

Any advantage to stealing the language of FIRST, PREVIOUS, etc…?

private final static String CONTINUOUS_RELATIVE_PERIOD_Y = “FIRST/P1Y”;

Hmm… I would not go there, WMS-T often works on a moving window, so FIRST and LATEST change daily or more often,
you never know what they mean.

Cheers
Andrea

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