[Geoserver-devel] Rebooting the "IRC" meetings?

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1

Hi,
talking with Chris last week we were discussing the general lack of coordination
that has been affecting both GeoTools and GeoServer in the last year or so.

It would be nice to try and open a bit communications channels with a means
that gives more opportunity for people to talk about what they are doing, priorities
expectations and needs.

At the same time I believe we need to avoid getting bogged down into something
that would make people disregard the meetings because they are using too much
time.

I’ve sent the mail to both geotools and geoserver ml because I’m thiking of doing
a shared one between the two projects.
This is a quick braindump of how it may look like (mostly to promote discussion
on the topic):

  • voice meeting, to keep things short and get maximum bandwidth (skype, gtalk?
    with a chat fallback for needs such a sharing links, pasting text, raising hand
    to talk next in case the discussion gets “busy” with lots of people willing to say
    something
  • ideally time boxed to half an hour with the ability to expand on a as need basis
  • a meeting every two weeks
  • topics to be discussed scheduled in advance (with a default “what’s up one”),
    with people signing up on the
    topics that they are interested to discuss (so that we can cover first the ones
    that most people are interested in, and keep for later the ones with a smaller
    audience, allowing people to leave earlier if they need to)
  • terse textual log only showing the topics discussed and the decision taken, to be
    edited collaboratively on something like etherpad (which is gone, but there
    is plenty of replacements around, including, if we want too, Google Docs)
  • a meeting that discusses both GeoTools and GeoServer, in that order.
    Actually, it can be something like “GeoTools tribes” meeting, with a first
    part where everybody is on board, and a second one where people
    split up and discuss separately, if they want to, uDig, GeoServer and whatever
    else they want
  • participation from PSC members somehow expected, other people can join at will

If people from all time zones are interested we’ll have to actually setup two meetings
and do some follow up by mail, leveraging the logs:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120601&p1=215&p2=179&p3=256&p4=196&p5=240

Cheers
Andrea

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2

A big +1 here. A few thoughts.

I agree voice is more productive but has a few potential drawbacks. Harder to get a transcript for one. Also some non-native english speakers may prefer the IRC medium rather than voice, but I will let others comment on that.

I think the two week recurrence is a good idea and +1 on having one geotools/geosever/udig/java … irc meeting. I guess the idea would be to use the geotools list for any organization required, like coming with agenda items before hand, etc…

Anyways, glad to see this coming back. When do we kick off the first one?

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
talking with Chris last week we were discussing the general lack of coordination
that has been affecting both GeoTools and GeoServer in the last year or so.

It would be nice to try and open a bit communications channels with a means
that gives more opportunity for people to talk about what they are doing, priorities
expectations and needs.

At the same time I believe we need to avoid getting bogged down into something
that would make people disregard the meetings because they are using too much
time.

I’ve sent the mail to both geotools and geoserver ml because I’m thiking of doing
a shared one between the two projects.
This is a quick braindump of how it may look like (mostly to promote discussion
on the topic):

  • voice meeting, to keep things short and get maximum bandwidth (skype, gtalk?
    with a chat fallback for needs such a sharing links, pasting text, raising hand
    to talk next in case the discussion gets “busy” with lots of people willing to say
    something
  • ideally time boxed to half an hour with the ability to expand on a as need basis
  • a meeting every two weeks
  • topics to be discussed scheduled in advance (with a default “what’s up one”),
    with people signing up on the
    topics that they are interested to discuss (so that we can cover first the ones
    that most people are interested in, and keep for later the ones with a smaller
    audience, allowing people to leave earlier if they need to)
  • terse textual log only showing the topics discussed and the decision taken, to be
    edited collaboratively on something like etherpad (which is gone, but there
    is plenty of replacements around, including, if we want too, Google Docs)
  • a meeting that discusses both GeoTools and GeoServer, in that order.
    Actually, it can be something like “GeoTools tribes” meeting, with a first
    part where everybody is on board, and a second one where people
    split up and discuss separately, if they want to, uDig, GeoServer and whatever
    else they want
  • participation from PSC members somehow expected, other people can join at will

If people from all time zones are interested we’ll have to actually setup two meetings
and do some follow up by mail, leveraging the logs:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120601&p1=215&p2=179&p3=256&p4=196&p5=240

Cheers
Andrea

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phone: +39 0584 962313
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mob: +39 339 8844549

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3

We can try it; I just went through the timezone dance let week for a GSoC timeslot and ended up with:

With that in mind this slot looked best:

I suspect we may need to go one hour earlier to account for Perth?

4

Il giorno 01/mag/2012 23:44, “Jody Garnett” <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> ha scritto:

We can try it; I just went through the timezone dance let week for a GSoC timeslot and ended up with:

With that in mind this slot looked best:

  • Monday, 14 May 2012 at 13:00:00
  • Rome 3pm
  • New York 9am
  • Calgary 7am
  • Brisbane 11 pm

I suspect we may need to go one hour earlier to account for Perth?

Two hours actually, as far as I know.

Cheers
Andrea

5

Ciao Justin,
I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.

We are happy to host the meetings with our webex account so that we
can register them and try to make them available afterwards, putting
them somewhere on one of our demo servers.
Baseline rationale behind resurrecting the meetings was to have an
agile way to try and coordinate lightly not to add overhead again, so
the less formalities, the better IMHO.

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

A big +1 here. A few thoughts.

I agree voice is more productive but has a few potential drawbacks. Harder
to get a transcript for one. Also some non-native english speakers may
prefer the IRC medium rather than voice, but I will let others comment on
that.

I think the two week recurrence is a good idea and +1 on having one
geotools/geosever/udig/java ... irc meeting. I guess the idea would be to
use the geotools list for any organization required, like coming with agenda
items before hand, etc...

Anyways, glad to see this coming back. When do we kick off the first one?

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi,
talking with Chris last week we were discussing the general lack of
coordination
that has been affecting both GeoTools and GeoServer in the last year or
so.

It would be nice to try and open a bit communications channels with a
means
that gives more opportunity for people to talk about what they are doing,
priorities
expectations and needs.

At the same time I believe we need to avoid getting bogged down into
something
that would make people disregard the meetings because they are using too
much
time.

I've sent the mail to both geotools and geoserver ml because I'm thiking
of doing
a shared one between the two projects.
This is a quick braindump of how it may look like (mostly to promote
discussion
on the topic):

- voice meeting, to keep things short and get maximum bandwidth (skype,
gtalk?
with a chat fallback for needs such a sharing links, pasting text,
raising hand
to talk next in case the discussion gets "busy" with lots of people
willing to say
something
- ideally time boxed to half an hour with the ability to expand on a as
need basis
- a meeting every two weeks
- topics to be discussed scheduled in advance (with a default "what's up
one"),
with people signing up on the
topics that they are interested to discuss (so that we can cover first
the ones
that most people are interested in, and keep for later the ones with a
smaller
audience, allowing people to leave earlier if they need to)
- terse textual log only showing the topics discussed and the decision
taken, to be
edited collaboratively on something like etherpad (which is gone, but
there
is plenty of replacements around, including, if we want too, Google
Docs)
- a meeting that discusses both GeoTools and GeoServer, in that order.
Actually, it can be something like "GeoTools tribes" meeting, with a
first
part where everybody is on board, and a second one where people
split up and discuss separately, if they want to, uDig, GeoServer and
whatever
else they want
- participation from PSC members somehow expected, other people can join
at will

If people from all time zones are interested we'll have to actually setup
two meetings
and do some follow up by mail, leveraging the logs:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120601&p1=215&p2=179&p3=256&p4=196&p5=240

Cheers
Andrea

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phone: +39 0584 962313
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Nice so call it “GeoTools Tribe” open mike :slight_smile:

Bring your coffee or beer as appropriate to your timezone; and lets try and get some releases out again.

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Baseline rationale behind resurrecting the meetings was to have an
agile way to try and coordinate lightly not to add overhead again, so
the less formalities, the better IMHO.

7

I do like text records. I think one thing that could work well would
be to etherpad it, so a few people can take relevant notes at once.
Then we can post that etherpad transcript to the blog when we're done.
I'd be happy to try to take lead on writing, as long as there'd be a
couple backups for when I'm talking or when I miss stuff.

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Simone Giannecchini
<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Justin,
I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.

We are happy to host the meetings with our webex account so that we
can register them and try to make them available afterwards, putting
them somewhere on one of our demo servers.
Baseline rationale behind resurrecting the meetings was to have an
agile way to try and coordinate lightly not to add overhead again, so
the less formalities, the better IMHO.

Regards,
Simone Giannecchini
-------------------------------------------------------
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GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Founder

Via Poggio alle Viti 1187
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy

phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 962313
mob: +39 333 8128928

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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:

A big +1 here. A few thoughts.

I agree voice is more productive but has a few potential drawbacks. Harder
to get a transcript for one. Also some non-native english speakers may
prefer the IRC medium rather than voice, but I will let others comment on
that.

I think the two week recurrence is a good idea and +1 on having one
geotools/geosever/udig/java ... irc meeting. I guess the idea would be to
use the geotools list for any organization required, like coming with agenda
items before hand, etc...

Anyways, glad to see this coming back. When do we kick off the first one?

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi,
talking with Chris last week we were discussing the general lack of
coordination
that has been affecting both GeoTools and GeoServer in the last year or
so.

It would be nice to try and open a bit communications channels with a
means
that gives more opportunity for people to talk about what they are doing,
priorities
expectations and needs.

At the same time I believe we need to avoid getting bogged down into
something
that would make people disregard the meetings because they are using too
much
time.

I've sent the mail to both geotools and geoserver ml because I'm thiking
of doing
a shared one between the two projects.
This is a quick braindump of how it may look like (mostly to promote
discussion
on the topic):

- voice meeting, to keep things short and get maximum bandwidth (skype,
gtalk?
with a chat fallback for needs such a sharing links, pasting text,
raising hand
to talk next in case the discussion gets "busy" with lots of people
willing to say
something
- ideally time boxed to half an hour with the ability to expand on a as
need basis
- a meeting every two weeks
- topics to be discussed scheduled in advance (with a default "what's up
one"),
with people signing up on the
topics that they are interested to discuss (so that we can cover first
the ones
that most people are interested in, and keep for later the ones with a
smaller
audience, allowing people to leave earlier if they need to)
- terse textual log only showing the topics discussed and the decision
taken, to be
edited collaboratively on something like etherpad (which is gone, but
there
is plenty of replacements around, including, if we want too, Google
Docs)
- a meeting that discusses both GeoTools and GeoServer, in that order.
Actually, it can be something like "GeoTools tribes" meeting, with a
first
part where everybody is on board, and a second one where people
split up and discuss separately, if they want to, uDig, GeoServer and
whatever
else they want
- participation from PSC members somehow expected, other people can join
at will

If people from all time zones are interested we'll have to actually setup
two meetings
and do some follow up by mail, leveraging the logs:

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20120601&p1=215&p2=179&p3=256&p4=196&p5=240

Cheers
Andrea

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phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 962313
mob: +39 339 8844549

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On 02/05/12 05:44, Jody Garnett wrote:

With that in mind this slot looked best:
- Monday, 14 May 2012 at 13:00:00<http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2012&month=5&day=14&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=47&p2=215&p3=179&gt;
- Rome 3pm
- New York 9am
- Calgary 7am
- Brisbane 11 pm
I suspect we may need to go one hour earlier to account for Perth?

No, I think Brisbane is the edge-case; when it is 23:00 in Brisbane it is only 21:00 in Perth (we are closer to Europe). Perth is two hours (and 20 years) behind the Eastern states of Australia

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On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini
<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Justin,
I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.

That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :slight_smile: Plus I
suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can't make the
meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
and post them later.

But +1 for regular meetings.

Ian

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10

Hi all,

+1 on regular meetings, I would be very happy to attend.
No preferences between voice or IRC, there are pros and cons in both cases. The very important thing IMHO is that we record the logs best as we can.

3pm Rome time works well for me also.

The IRC channels are still the old ones?

Regards,
Alessio.

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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini

<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Justin,
I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.

That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :slight_smile: Plus I
suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can’t make the
meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
and post them later.

But +1 for regular meetings.

Ian

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On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini

<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Justin,
I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very good.

That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :slight_smile: Plus I
suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can’t make the
meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
and post them later.

Hmm… chat typing is slow enough that it will take 2 hours to do a gt/gs
meeting side by side, which is too much time.
If we cannot keep them short I fear we’ll go back to no meetings
in a very short time.

Wondering if we can do something hybrid, mainly voice with people
that cannot “talk” just listen and comment on a textual chat?

Webex wise, no problem for me, but mind, voice support does not work
on Linux (or at least, never managed to make it work on Ubuntu) because
the java applet pretends to be the only one accessing the sound subsystem,
not being able to (since the sound mixer is always on) it fails.
I normally temporarily start up a Windows VM to do Webex

Cheers
Andrea

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phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 962313
mob: +39 339 8844549

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Ok, let's keep moving on this.

I think we should stick with the 'voice' idea and see if we can get it
to work. We can complement with an etherpad to take real time notes on
all that is said, so we have a transcript. And a chat window (irc or
an integrated webex one) to drop links and so people who can't do
voice can follow along.

Are we up for trying one this week? Thursday or Friday? I'm out next
week at a conference, though I don't necessarily need to be there -
don't think we should get too hung up on trying to coordinate
absolutely everyone, just pick a reasonably good time.

And then do them regularly. Do we want to do once every two weeks?
More or less often?

Looking at the list discussion I imagine the first topic should be
Releases - scheduling and automation. Anybody else have other topics
to discuss?

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Andrea Aime
<andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini
<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:
> Ciao Justin,
> I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very
> good.
>

That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :slight_smile: Plus I
suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can't make the
meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
and post them later.

Hmm... chat typing is slow enough that it will take 2 hours to do a gt/gs
meeting side by side, which is too much time.
If we cannot keep them short I fear we'll go back to no meetings
in a very short time.

Wondering if we can do something hybrid, mainly voice with people
that cannot "talk" just listen and comment on a textual chat?

Webex wise, no problem for me, but mind, voice support does not work
on Linux (or at least, never managed to make it work on Ubuntu) because
the java applet pretends to be the only one accessing the sound subsystem,
not being able to (since the sound mixer is always on) it fails.
I normally temporarily start up a Windows VM to do Webex

Cheers
Andrea

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Sounds good to me. I am good with Thursday or Friday, i imagine it will be pretty early my time so should be no conflicts.

On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:00 PM, Chris Holmes <cholmes@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ok, let’s keep moving on this.

I think we should stick with the ‘voice’ idea and see if we can get it
to work. We can complement with an etherpad to take real time notes on
all that is said, so we have a transcript. And a chat window (irc or
an integrated webex one) to drop links and so people who can’t do
voice can follow along.

Are we up for trying one this week? Thursday or Friday? I’m out next
week at a conference, though I don’t necessarily need to be there -
don’t think we should get too hung up on trying to coordinate
absolutely everyone, just pick a reasonably good time.

And then do them regularly. Do we want to do once every two weeks?
More or less often?

Looking at the list discussion I imagine the first topic should be
Releases - scheduling and automation. Anybody else have other topics
to discuss?

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 6:03 AM, Andrea Aime
<andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 1 May 2012 23:01, Simone Giannecchini
<simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ciao Justin,
I would rather go for voice, as my experience with IRC was not very
good.

That would be a problem for me as I can do IRC while in the office but
voice meetings would be annoying for my office mates :slight_smile: Plus I
suspect that our fire wall would have more of a problem with webex. I
also prefer irc since it is easier for people who can’t make the
meeting to read the notes rather than rely on someone to take minutes
and post them later.

Hmm… chat typing is slow enough that it will take 2 hours to do a gt/gs
meeting side by side, which is too much time.
If we cannot keep them short I fear we’ll go back to no meetings
in a very short time.

Wondering if we can do something hybrid, mainly voice with people
that cannot “talk” just listen and comment on a textual chat?

Webex wise, no problem for me, but mind, voice support does not work
on Linux (or at least, never managed to make it work on Ubuntu) because
the java applet pretends to be the only one accessing the sound subsystem,
not being able to (since the sound mixer is always on) it fails.
I normally temporarily start up a Windows VM to do Webex

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Monday to Wednesday would be easiest for me. I'd suggest fortnightly. But feel free to start later this week even if I can't make it.

On 08/05/12 05:00, Chris Holmes wrote:

Are we up for trying one this week? Thursday or Friday? I'm out next
week at a conference, though I don't necessarily need to be there -
don't think we should get too hung up on trying to coordinate
absolutely everyone, just pick a reasonably good time.
And then do them regularly. Do we want to do once every two weeks?
More or less often?

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Sounds good to me too.
This week Friday should work better for me.

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Alessio.

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Monday to Wednesday would be easiest for me. I’d suggest fortnightly.
But feel free to start later this week even if I can’t make it.

On 08/05/12 05:00, Chris Holmes wrote:

Are we up for trying one this week? Thursday or Friday? I’m out next
week at a conference, though I don’t necessarily need to be there -
don’t think we should get too hung up on trying to coordinate
absolutely everyone, just pick a reasonably good time.
And then do them regularly. Do we want to do once every two weeks?
More or less often?

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On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Alessio Fabiani <alessio.fabiani@anonymised.com> wrote:

Sounds good to me too.
This week Friday should work better for me.

Friday works fine for me too.

Earlier in the thread Jody proposed May 14 though:

We can try it; I just went through the timezone dance let week for a GSoC timeslot and ended up with:

With that in mind this slot looked best:

The proposed time works for me, about the date, either Friday or Monday is good

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Friday works fine for me too.

Earlier in the thread Jody proposed May 14 though:

A different day of the week will be fine; I would prefer thursday in order to have my Friday night free.

At least it sounds like the timeslot will work.

Jody

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Ah, I didn't see that Jody's had an actual day, was thinking it was
just the time.

Let's do the monday, so we're not getting in to the weekend for Australians.

I have to check my conference schedule, may be helping give a workshop
right then, but let's just get things rolling.

On Tue, May 8, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:

Friday works fine for me too.

Earlier in the thread Jody proposed May 14 though:

A different day of the week will be fine; I would prefer thursday in order
to have my Friday night free.

At least it sounds like the timeslot will work.

Jody

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Much appreciated!

On 09/05/12 08:29, Chris Holmes wrote:

Let's do the monday, so we're not getting in to the weekend for Australians.

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On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:29 AM, Chris Holmes <cholmes@anonymised.com> wrote:

Ah, I didn’t see that Jody’s had an actual day, was thinking it was
just the time.

Let’s do the monday, so we’re not getting in to the weekend for Australians.

Works for me! So, I’ll setup a Webex and we see how it goes?
For those that cannot get it using the browser plugin (as I mentioned before,
Linux users can have issues with audio conferencing) there are toll free numbers
that you can call from a landline listed here:
http://support.webex.com/MyAccountWeb/needsupport.do?userType=ht

I’ll follow up later with the Webex invitation.

Cheers
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