[Geoserver-devel] Reverting a change making our user life difficult with GDAL

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Hi,
some days ago Daniele wrote this in an answer to a user problem that seems to be becoming common:

@Torben
I’m wondering if we should restore the old binding as part of the zip archive since Corey is at least the 4th or 5th user falling in this issue.
At the end, the GeoServer GDAL zip is part of a supported extension whilst the gt-ogr-jni store is a geotools plugin being activated with a profile (I didn’t checked so deeply so I might be wrong). In that case, we can update the gt-ogr-jni documentation reporting notes on the potential conflict with the old binding

Here is the thread with full context:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GeoServer-2-11-1-and-GDAL-td5324710.html

I do support Daniele’s suggestion, the GDAL extension is supported, the OGR one is not, and not even packaged
as a community module. Does not make sense to me, to ease life for something that nobody bothers supporting,
if it’s making a supported module harder to use as a side effect.

Cheers
Andrea

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Hi Andrea,
I would also add these to the list:

http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GeoServer-2-11-0-is-not-starting-after-installing-GDAL-plugin-Windows-Tomcat-td5315288.html

https://www.mail-archive.com/geoserver-users@anonymised.comurceforge.net/msg26745.html

(I have also a couple of “private” emails from a colleague and some customers, related to the same problem).
If nobody is against that, It would be great to restore that jar in the release xml.
Do we need some voting?

Cheers,
Daniele

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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
some days ago Daniele wrote this in an answer to a user problem that seems to be becoming common:

@Torben
I’m wondering if we should restore the old binding as part of the zip archive since Corey is at least the 4th or 5th user falling in this issue.
At the end, the GeoServer GDAL zip is part of a supported extension whilst the gt-ogr-jni store is a geotools plugin being activated with a profile (I didn’t checked so deeply so I might be wrong). In that case, we can update the gt-ogr-jni documentation reporting notes on the potential conflict with the old binding

Here is the thread with full context:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GeoServer-2-11-1-and-GDAL-td5324710.html

I do support Daniele’s suggestion, the GDAL extension is supported, the OGR one is not, and not even packaged
as a community module. Does not make sense to me, to ease life for something that nobody bothers supporting,
if it’s making a supported module harder to use as a side effect.

Cheers
Andrea

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Indeed the current status doesn’t make too much sense.

+1 to Daniel suggestion.

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On 22-06-2017 12:03, Andrea Aime wrote:

I do support Daniele’s suggestion, the GDAL extension is supported, the OGR one is not, and not even packaged
as a community module. Does not make sense to me, to ease life for something that nobody bothers supporting,
if it’s making a supported module harder to use as a side effect.

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+1

-Jukka Rahkonen-

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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@…1268…> wrote:

Hi,
some days ago Daniele wrote this in an answer to a user problem that seems to be becoming common:

@Torben
I’m wondering if we should restore the old binding as part of the zip archive since Corey is at least the 4th or 5th user falling in this issue.
At the end, the GeoServer GDAL zip is part of a supported extension whilst the gt-ogr-jni store is a geotools plugin being activated with a profile (I didn’t checked so deeply so I might be wrong). In that case, we can update the gt-ogr-jni documentation reporting notes on the potential conflict with the old binding

Here is the thread with full context:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GeoServer-2-11-1-and-GDAL-td5324710.html

I do support Daniele’s suggestion, the GDAL extension is supported, the OGR one is not, and not even packaged
as a community module. Does not make sense to me, to ease life for something that nobody bothers supporting,
if it’s making a supported module harder to use as a side effect.

Cheers
Andrea

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Hi Torben,
care to comment on this one? :slight_smile:

Cheer
Andrea

···

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
some days ago Daniele wrote this in an answer to a user problem that seems to be becoming common:

@Torben
I’m wondering if we should restore the old binding as part of the zip archive since Corey is at least the 4th or 5th user falling in this issue.
At the end, the GeoServer GDAL zip is part of a supported extension whilst the gt-ogr-jni store is a geotools plugin being activated with a profile (I didn’t checked so deeply so I might be wrong). In that case, we can update the gt-ogr-jni documentation reporting notes on the potential conflict with the old binding

Here is the thread with full context:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GeoServer-2-11-1-and-GDAL-td5324710.html

I do support Daniele’s suggestion, the GDAL extension is supported, the OGR one is not, and not even packaged
as a community module. Does not make sense to me, to ease life for something that nobody bothers supporting,
if it’s making a supported module harder to use as a side effect.

Cheers
Andrea

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Given the issues people have been having, restoring the jar seems like a good idea.

However:
a) We should probably upgrade to a more up-to-date version of the GDAL bindings; probably 1.11.*
b) It would be beneficial if the bindings jar included its GDAL version in its name.

Torben

···

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 1:19 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Torben,
care to comment on this one? :slight_smile:

Cheer
Andrea

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
some days ago Daniele wrote this in an answer to a user problem that seems to be becoming common:

@Torben
I’m wondering if we should restore the old binding as part of the zip archive since Corey is at least the 4th or 5th user falling in this issue.
At the end, the GeoServer GDAL zip is part of a supported extension whilst the gt-ogr-jni store is a geotools plugin being activated with a profile (I didn’t checked so deeply so I might be wrong). In that case, we can update the gt-ogr-jni documentation reporting notes on the potential conflict with the old binding

Here is the thread with full context:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GeoServer-2-11-1-and-GDAL-td5324710.html

I do support Daniele’s suggestion, the GDAL extension is supported, the OGR one is not, and not even packaged
as a community module. Does not make sense to me, to ease life for something that nobody bothers supporting,
if it’s making a supported module harder to use as a side effect.

Cheers
Andrea

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Hi Torben,

thanks for the feedbacks.

···

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Torben Barsballe <tbarsballe@anonymised.com…> wrote:

Given the issues people have been having, restoring the jar seems like a good idea.

However:
a) We should probably upgrade to a more up-to-date version of the GDAL bindings; probably 1.11.*

That would be good. However, note that we should rebuild a new set of linux native libs currently available here:
http://demo.geo-solutions.it/share/github/imageio-ext/releases/1.1.X/1.1.16/native/gdal/linux/

(Whilst for windows native builds we can still leverage on this: http://www.gisinternals.com/release.php)

b) It would be beneficial if the bindings jar included its GDAL version in its name.

Actually, it’s already like that (the jar includes the GDAL version):
http://download.osgeo.org/webdav/geotools/it/geosolutions/imageio-ext/imageio-ext-gdal-bindings/1.9.2/imageio-ext-gdal-bindings-1.9.2.jar

Indeed, artifacts like, as an instance, imageio-ext-gdalarcgrid-1.1.15, imageio-ext-gdalarcgrid-1.1.16, imageio-ext-gdalarcgrid-1.1.17, all depend on
imageio-ext-gdal-bindings-1.9.2.jar
where 1.1.x is the imageio-ext version whilst 1.9.2 is the GDAL version.

In reference to point (a), I think we should consider it a separate task, since I’m not sure how long creating new binaries will take (we should also evaluate moving to a 2.x GDAL version).

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Hi Torben,
care to comment on this one? :slight_smile:

Cheer
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On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
some days ago Daniele wrote this in an answer to a user problem that seems to be becoming common:

@Torben
I’m wondering if we should restore the old binding as part of the zip archive since Corey is at least the 4th or 5th user falling in this issue.
At the end, the GeoServer GDAL zip is part of a supported extension whilst the gt-ogr-jni store is a geotools plugin being activated with a profile (I didn’t checked so deeply so I might be wrong). In that case, we can update the gt-ogr-jni documentation reporting notes on the potential conflict with the old binding

Here is the thread with full context:
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/GeoServer-2-11-1-and-GDAL-td5324710.html

I do support Daniele’s suggestion, the GDAL extension is supported, the OGR one is not, and not even packaged
as a community module. Does not make sense to me, to ease life for something that nobody bothers supporting,
if it’s making a supported module harder to use as a side effect.

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Hi Torben,

thanks for the feedbacks.

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Torben Barsballe <

tbarsballe@anonymised.com> wrote:

Given the issues people have been having, restoring the jar seems like a

good idea.

However:

a) We should probably upgrade to a more up-to-date version of the GDAL

bindings; probably 1.11.*

That would be good. However, note that we should rebuild a new set of linux

native libs currently available here:

Index of /share/github/imageio-ext/releases/1.1.X/1.1.16

native/gdal/linux/ (Whilst for windows native builds we can still leverage

on this:

GISInternals Support Site)

If you need to rebuild GDAL, may I humbly suggest to use the latest stable version :wink:

http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/CURRENT/

(should be 2.2.1 in a few days)

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On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Even Rouault <even.rouault@anonymised.com>
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http://download.osgeo.org/gdal/CURRENT/

(should be 2.2.1 in a few days)

Even, it's the usual thing of having time. Upgrading to a bug fix release
is something we consider
"safe" and we'd mostly have to redo the build and run some smoke tests, but
a major release
upgrade would require format by format testing and load testing under
multi-threaded load
before being considered safe. That increases the effort a lot...

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On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Even Rouault even.rouault@anonymised.com

wrote:

Index of /gdal/CURRENT/

(should be 2.2.1 in a few days)

Even, it’s the usual thing of having time. Upgrading to a bug fix release

is something we consider

“safe” and we’d mostly have to redo the build and run some smoke tests, but

a major release

upgrade would require format by format testing and load testing under

multi-threaded load

before being considered safe. That increases the effort a lot…

I can understand that, but if you want to take an informed decision, I wouldn’t consider the GDAL 1.11 series as being still supported by the GDAL project (unless someone particularly well hidden still supports it). 1.11.0 was released more than 3 years ago, and I was kind enough to release a 1.11.5 last July, but given the lack of customer interest for it, I don’t consider doing new point releases for it. Same for 2.0.X

I’m not even sure there will be new point releases in the 2.1 series, after 2.1.4 which is going to be released at the same time as 2.2.1 (*), likely beginning of next week.

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b) It would be beneficial if the bindings jar included its GDAL version
in its name.

Actually, it's already like that (the jar includes the GDAL version):
http://download.osgeo.org/webdav/geotools/it/geosolutions/imageio-ext/
imageio-ext-gdal-bindings/1.9.2/imageio-ext-gdal-bindings-1.9.2.jar

Indeed, artifacts like, as an instance, imageio-ext-gdalarcgrid-1.1.15,
imageio-ext-gdalarcgrid-1.1.16, imageio-ext-gdalarcgrid-1.1.17, all
depend on
imageio-ext-gdal-bindings-1.9.2.jar
where 1.1.x is the imageio-ext version whilst 1.9.2 is the GDAL version.

Ah, my mistake. I remember running into a version of the bindings called

"gdal.jar", but I think that must be what is produced by the regular GDAL
build.

In reference to point (a), I think we should consider it a separate task,
since I'm not sure how long creating new binaries will take (we should also
evaluate moving to a 2.x GDAL version).

I agree that we should consider moving to GDAL 2.x, since that seems to be

what most people are actually using these days, and I think some people
have already had success using it with the current GeoServer.

Torben

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tbarsballe@anonymised.com> wrote:

In reference to point (a), I think we should consider it a separate task,

since I'm not sure how long creating new binaries will take (we should also
evaluate moving to a 2.x GDAL version).

I agree that we should consider moving to GDAL 2.x, since that seems to

be what most people are actually using these days, and I think some people
have already had success using it with the current GeoServer.

I believe a line must be drawn between aspiration and reality. The idea is
certainly good, but what if a year passes before
we can dedicate resources to do this upgrade? Should the users be left in a
limbo since then, unable to get a supported
module to favor one that is not even packaged?

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On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Torben Barsballe <
tbarsballe@anonymised.com> wrote:

In reference to point (a), I think we should consider it a separate task,

since I'm not sure how long creating new binaries will take (we should also
evaluate moving to a 2.x GDAL version).

I agree that we should consider moving to GDAL 2.x, since that seems to

be what most people are actually using these days, and I think some people
have already had success using it with the current GeoServer.

I believe a line must be drawn between aspiration and reality. The idea is
certainly good, but what if a year passes before
we can dedicate resources to do this upgrade? Should the users be left in
a limbo since then, unable to get a supported
module to favor one that is not even packaged?

To be clear: As long as you follow the current install instructions
<GDAL Image Formats — GeoServer 2.27.x User Manual,
the current GDAL module works fine. The bindings are included in the gdal
zip linked
<http://demo.geo-solutions.it/share/github/imageio-ext/releases/1.1.X/1.1.16/native/gdal&gt;
from that page, and the instructions explicitly tell you to copy the
bindings into your WEB-INF/lib.

The main issue is that most users are missing this step in the
instructions, so including the bindings jar with the gs-gdal plugin (as was
done before) would make things a bit easier.

Changing the packaging to include this jar again is relatively trivial, and
can be done independently of upgrading the binding jar.

That said, if someone is using a newer version of GDAL with newer bindings,
including the binding jar by default could cause other conflicts (I would
expect to see issues with GDAL 2.0 and higher).

Given that, if we start including the binding jar again, and don't upgrade
it, we should make this clear in the GDAL install instructions (although
that didn't seem to help much in this case).

Torben

Torben

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We just got a ticket opened about this:
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-8276

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To be clear: As long as you follow the current install instructions, the current GDAL module works fine. The bindings are included in the gdal zip linked from that page, and the instructions explicitly tell you to copy the bindings into your WEB-INF/lib.

The main issue is that most users are missing this step in the instructions, so including the bindings jar with the gs-gdal plugin (as was done before) would make things a bit easier.

Changing the packaging to include this jar again is relatively trivial, and can be done independently of upgrading the binding jar.

That said, if someone is using a newer version of GDAL with newer bindings, including the binding jar by default could cause other conflicts (I would expect to see issues with GDAL 2.0 and higher).

Given that, if we start including the binding jar again, and don’t upgrade it, we should make this clear in the GDAL install instructions (although that didn’t seem to help much in this case).

Torben

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I believe a line must be drawn between aspiration and reality. The idea is certainly good, but what if a year passes before
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module to favor one that is not even packaged?

I agree that we should consider moving to GDAL 2.x, since that seems to be what most people are actually using these days, and I think some people have already had success using it with the current GeoServer.

In reference to point (a), I think we should consider it a separate task, since I’m not sure how long creating new binaries will take (we should also evaluate moving to a 2.x GDAL version).

Cheers

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