In today’s meeting I learned that our service provider definitions are not quite clear (and did not match how I usually summarize the distinctions).
My personal take is:
core-contributors: take on an ongoing responsibility (security responsible disclosure response, releases, supported extension). Core contributors are signed up to the devel and user lists (and responsible disclosure list) and you can see their work week by week.
experienced providers: contribute directly to project sustainability in some form (perhaps implemented a GSIP or proposal on behalf of their customer?). These folks work on geoserver when hired by their customers but are not always active. If you do hire an experienced provider they already have signed a contribution agreement and have experience writing a proposal to affect the roadmap. Chances are experienced providers have products based on GeoServer (and help test release candidates ← wish ).
additional services: provide some consulting, training or assistance on geoserver use and integration to their customers. We are pretty sure these organizations are still operational, but maybe not?
Hi Jody,
should we also require a minimum of user support activity, like either user list of gis.stackexchange.com participation?
Cheers
Andrea
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Hi Jody,
quoting the experienced provider section from the proposal:
Demonstrate the ability to contribute directly to project sustainability: GISP proposal, community module, code-sprint participation
Signed code contribution agreement
Work on geoserver when hired by customers but are not always active
GeoServer is an important aspect of their business: established customers using GeoServer, GeoServer based product or service
In the same proposal, a bit above, you list the existing three companies, however I think only one qualifies for all the criterias above.
Unless you mean to require only one of the above to be among experienced providers?
Cheers
Andrea
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Yeah, this is what started the conversation - my expectations for experienced providers differ from practice.
I tried to provide:
4 criteria (do I have to list signed code contribution agreement, or is it covered by “demonstrate ability to contribute directly to the project?”)
And then some examples of how criteria could be met.
As an example Geocursos translates a lot of blog content (so a contribution to our wider community), not sure if a signed code contribution is on file (I think so once again to support translation), and appears to offer geoserver training and support.
Hi Jody,
I am confused now. GeoCursos is not a match for the criteria you cite in the GSIP (there is no mention of blogs, translations and docs, examples just talk about coding related activities),
but then you create new criterias out of the blue. Either:
the extra criteria need to be added (and what else might be missing?)
the list of criteria needs to be generalized
maybe I just misunderstood your evaluation of GeoCursos, and you mean to move it to “service providers”?
Cheers
Andrea
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Thanks for the discussion in today’s meeting, I was having a hard time balancing making community participation visible, and wanting to recommend service providers in position to directly contribute on behalf of their customers.
I have updated the page with your idea of tagging service providers based on their community participation. I think the result looks good.