Hi all,
Bart has been setting up a new layer preview using OL3 here:
https://github.com/bartvde/geoserver-ol3-preview/commit/06e122aa9913df890347b47576f6839171cc061d
I am pretty excited about it… or else, I was, then Bart told me OL3 requires IE9+… erk…
I don’t think we can release a GeoServer that does not work with IE7 or IE8.
At the same time it’s a pity not to use Bart’s work. Maybe we should add a OL3 output format, or a format
option to get it? Or maybe have a browser identification tool that uses OL3 only when the browser
is recent enough.
Opinions?
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I would go for:
“a browser identification tool that uses OL3 only when the browser
is recent enough”
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Bart has been setting up a new layer preview using OL3 here:
https://github.com/bartvde/geoserver-ol3-preview/commit/06e122aa9913df890347b47576f6839171cc061d
I am pretty excited about it… or else, I was, then Bart told me OL3 requires IE9+… erk…
I don’t think we can release a GeoServer that does not work with IE7 or IE8.
At the same time it’s a pity not to use Bart’s work. Maybe we should add a OL3 output format, or a format
option to get it? Or maybe have a browser identification tool that uses OL3 only when the browser
is recent enough.
Opinions?
Cheers
Andrea
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Browser identification tool would be ideal imho. Would be really great to have most people using it as the default preview. If we can’t do that then the output format would be good to add, but I feel like most people wouldn’t see it then.
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Bart has been setting up a new layer preview using OL3 here:
https://github.com/bartvde/geoserver-ol3-preview/commit/06e122aa9913df890347b47576f6839171cc061d
I am pretty excited about it… or else, I was, then Bart told me OL3 requires IE9+… erk…
I don’t think we can release a GeoServer that does not work with IE7 or IE8.
At the same time it’s a pity not to use Bart’s work. Maybe we should add a OL3 output format, or a format
option to get it? Or maybe have a browser identification tool that uses OL3 only when the browser
is recent enough.
Opinions?
Cheers
Andrea
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I too like the idea of browser identification and switching between new and
old. For the old I think it would be good to add some notice that says
"your browser sucks" ... er i mean "Your browser is currently not supported
..., blah blah"
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Chris Holmes <chomie@anonymised.com> wrote:
Browser identification tool would be ideal imho. Would be really great to
have most people using it as the default preview. If we can't do that then
the output format would be good to add, but I feel like most people
wouldn't see it then.
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com
> wrote:
Hi all,
Bart has been setting up a new layer preview using OL3 here:
https://github.com/bartvde/geoserver-ol3-preview/commit/06e122aa9913df890347b47576f6839171cc061d
I am pretty excited about it... or else, I was, then Bart told me OL3
requires IE9+... erk...
I don't think we can release a GeoServer that does not work with IE7 or
IE8.
At the same time it's a pity not to use Bart's work. Maybe we should add
a OL3 output format, or a format
option to get it? Or maybe have a browser identification tool that uses
OL3 only when the browser
is recent enough.
Opinions?
Cheers
Andrea
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Justin Deoliveira <
jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
I too like the idea of browser identification and switching between new
and old. For the old I think it would be good to add some notice that says
"your browser sucks" ... er i mean "Your browser is currently not supported
..., blah blah"
Ok, so how do we detect the unsupported browsers?
I've found this library to detect the user agents, but it's kinda big, two
jars, around 300kb I believe.
Maybe we can have a blacklist of specific strings instead? Suggestions?
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The header: HTTP_USER_AGENT
The regex: MSIE (\d+).
browser_is_old = int(group(1)) <= 8
The challenge is testing - my XP VM updated IE to 9 before I could stop it 
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Justin Deoliveira <jdeolive@anonymised.com> wrote:
Ok, so how do we detect the unsupported browsers?
I’ve found this library to detect the user agents, but it’s kinda big, two jars, around 300kb I believe.
Maybe we can have a blacklist of specific strings instead? Suggestions?
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I too like the idea of browser identification and switching between new and old. For the old I think it would be good to add some notice that says “your browser sucks” … er i mean “Your browser is currently not supported …, blah blah”
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Bart van den Eijnden <
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I can work on that probably.
So the browser detection would be in the preview page or outside of it?
If Ian's suggestion is all we need to check, then I guess it's going to be
easier to check in the geoserver code directly (less back and forth)
What do you think?
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Agreed if a check on the server can be done that would be simplest…
@Bart: do you think that check will suffice? Or do we need more context provided only in the browser?
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde@anonymised.com> wrote:
I can work on that probably.
So the browser detection would be in the preview page or outside of it?
If Ian’s suggestion is all we need to check, then I guess it’s going to be easier to check in the geoserver code directly (less back and forth)
What do you think?
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I believe that (server-side) check could suffice.
Bart
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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Bart van den Eijnden <bartvde@anonymised.com> wrote:
I can work on that probably.
So the browser detection would be in the preview page or outside of it?
If Ian’s suggestion is all we need to check, then I guess it’s going to be easier to check in the geoserver code directly (less back and forth)
What do you think?
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On 11/01/2014 4:58 a.m., Justin Deoliveira wrote:
I too like the idea of browser identification and switching between new and old. For the old I think it would be good to add some notice that says "your browser sucks" ... er i mean "Your browser is currently not supported ..., blah blah"
First sound accurate. How about "last millenium called - they want their browser back"?
We see a large no. of IE8 and still see too much iE7 on our site (we tell them to get a better browser).
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The challenge is testing - my XP VM updated IE to 9 before I could stop it
Our corporate install includes IE8 on Windows 7, so I can test if it’s put into the nightlies.
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On 11/01/2014 4:58 a.m., Justin Deoliveira wrote:
I too like the idea of browser identification and switching between
new and old. For the old I think it would be good to add some notice
that says "your browser sucks" ... er i mean "Your browser is
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First sound accurate. How about "last millenium called - they want their browser back"?
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