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On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:04 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@anonymised.com> wrote:
Thanks Andrea, your clarifications are good (the general advice to ask on the user list is good and covers new features/proposals).
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On 12 October 2015 at 05:54, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Ben and Jody,
thanks for the feedback.
I don’t think we have to go passive-aggressive, but also pointing directly to proposals might be inappropriate… there are several levels here, all need resourcing, not all need a proposal:
- Small improvement to existing functionality, isolated new feature, new community module, anything not touching core a lot → no need for a proposal
- Core change, affecting published API/services, touching several modules → proposal required
Even just inviting people to write proposals would just move the “new feature request cemetery” out of Jira and into the proposals list,
although I agree very few people that are now so carelessly opening feature request would go though the effort of writing a proposal.
Maybe we should write a page about “how to get new features into GeoServer” and link to it, or something like that
Cheers
Andrea
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 9:38 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:
+1 for Andrea’s change and to clutter reduction, and +1 to adding links to the proposal page and developer mailing list.
I do not think we need to change anything in Jira, which has the issue type “New Feature”. The point is that adding new feature tickets without first getting support of some kind is a pointless exercise. Jira is an inappropriate forum for pleading. Once support has been obtained, new feature tickets are fine.
If we really wanted to be passive-aggressive, we could add a new Jira issue type “Unfunded Feature/Improvement” with no editable fields, some text pointing to the lists and proposal page, and a workflow that prevents issue creation. 
Kind regards,
Ben.
On 11/10/15 05:17, Jody Garnett wrote:
If you would like to remove feature requests from Jira what about making it
more specific and pointing to the proposal process?
We could add a resourcing section to the template if needed …
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:37 AM Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com>
wrote:
Hi,
growing tired of people using Jira as a forum I’ve modified the text of the
project presentation to be a bit more explicit:
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/projects/GEOS/summary
Hopefully that will stop people from using Jira as a support forum.
If you read carefully, the text is basically also implicitly discouraging
people from
asking about improvements/new features in Jira.
This bit might be debatable, but I like to be forward and honest: the
tracker
contains a lot of improvement and feature requests
and almost none of those will be addressed anytime soon.
We lost the classification of bug/new features during the migration, but I
believe it was almost 50/50,
because bugs get fixed over time, but new features without funding rarely
do
The hard truth is that people that want new features must be prepared to
put their own time into them, or somehow sponsor their development, so we
can really do
without hundreds of features requests that are just going to be ignored for
years. I would like instead to push people to discuss new features on the
user list, as maybe there someone can be found that is interested in
developing
them, or it may happen that multiple people can group to fund that one
feature
they are interested into.
Mind, I’m not saying that we should just disallow creating such tickets,
only
that we should discourage them if there is no resources backing them in
the short/medium term.
Feedback welcomed.
Cheers
Andrea
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