[Geoserver-devel] upgrade postgresql JDBC driver to 42.1.1 (full binary xfer)

Hi,

For GeoGig, we noticed that the latest Postgresql JDBC driver (42.1.1) now allows full-binary data transfer. This is better than 25% less bandwidth than Base64 encoding!

I’d like to update the pom.xml from 9.4.1211 to 42.1.1.

NOTE: PostGIS could be upgraded to use this as its a big win for a remote (networked) database.
Note: you must use a prepared statement!

https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html

From the pom.xml;

<postgresql.jdbc.version>9.4.1211</postgresql.jdbc.version>

Comments?

Thanks,
Dave

Dave,

with this upgrade, a full GeoTools build with online jdbc-postgis tests, GeoServer build, community module compilation, and app-schema online tests against postgis all pass. I also confirmed that the correct jar is included in the assembled war and zip files.

Jira issue: https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOT-5741
Pull request for master: https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1605

Tested on debian unstable amd64:
postgresql-9.6 9.6.3-3 amd64
postgresql-9.6-postgis-2.3 2.3.1+dfsg-2 amd64

It would be good if someone could test this upgrade against an older postgresql (especially 8).

$ mvn -version
Apache Maven 3.5.0 (ff8f5e7444045639af65f6095c62210b5713f426; 2017-04-04T07:39:06+12:00)
Maven home: /home/ben/java/maven
Java version: 1.8.0_131, vendor: Oracle Corporation
Java home: /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre
Default locale: en_GB, platform encoding: UTF-8
OS name: "linux", version: "4.9.0-3-amd64", arch: "amd64", family: "unix"

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 30/05/17 09:22, Dave Blasby wrote:

Hi,

For GeoGig, we noticed that the latest Postgresql JDBC driver (42.1.1) now
allows full-binary data transfer. This is better than 25% less bandwidth
than Base64 encoding!

I'd like to update the pom.xml from 9.4.1211 to 42.1.1.

NOTE: PostGIS could be upgraded to use this as its a big win for a remote
(networked) database.
Note: you must use a prepared statement!

https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html

From the pom.xml;

<postgresql.jdbc.version>9.4.1211</postgresql.jdbc.version>

Comments?

Thanks,
Dave

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So, are you proposing just an upgrade of the driver, or are you also going to change the postgis store code to leverage the
binary transfer?

Cheers
Andrea

···

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Dave Blasby <dblasby@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

For GeoGig, we noticed that the latest Postgresql JDBC driver (42.1.1) now allows full-binary data transfer. This is better than 25% less bandwidth than Base64 encoding!

I’d like to update the pom.xml from 9.4.1211 to 42.1.1.

NOTE: PostGIS could be upgraded to use this as its a big win for a remote (networked) database.
Note: you must use a prepared statement!

https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html

From the pom.xml;

<postgresql.jdbc.version>9.4.1211</postgresql.jdbc.version>

Comments?

Thanks,
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Hi, Andrea,

Only updating the driver version.

I can work with the PostGIS maintainer to get it in - it’s fairly easy (just need to ensure that you are using prepared statements). The difficulty is in verifying it’s working - you don’t really have any access to what’s happening in the driver. For GeoGig, I verified using wireshark (you can also verify by stepping into the driver).

Thanks,
Dave

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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 1:03 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

So, are you proposing just an upgrade of the driver, or are you also going to change the postgis store code to leverage the
binary transfer?

Cheers
Andrea

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Dave Blasby <dblasby@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

For GeoGig, we noticed that the latest Postgresql JDBC driver (42.1.1) now allows full-binary data transfer. This is better than 25% less bandwidth than Base64 encoding!

I’d like to update the pom.xml from 9.4.1211 to 42.1.1.

NOTE: PostGIS could be upgraded to use this as its a big win for a remote (networked) database.
Note: you must use a prepared statement!

https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html

From the pom.xml;

<postgresql.jdbc.version>9.4.1211</postgresql.jdbc.version>

Comments?

Thanks,
Dave


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Hi, Ben,

Thanks for putting the PR together and making sure everything was tested (esp online tests).

WRT postgresql version support, I found this in the release notes for 42.0.0;

  • Support for PostgreSQL versions below 8.2 was dropped

Thanks,
Dave

···

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Dave,

with this upgrade, a full GeoTools build with online jdbc-postgis tests, GeoServer build, community module compilation, and app-schema online tests against postgis all pass. I also confirmed that the correct jar is included in the assembled war and zip files.

Jira issue: https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOT-5741
Pull request for master: https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1605

Tested on debian unstable amd64:
postgresql-9.6 9.6.3-3 amd64
postgresql-9.6-postgis-2.3 2.3.1+dfsg-2 amd64

It would be good if someone could test this upgrade against an older postgresql (especially 8).

$ mvn -version
Apache Maven 3.5.0 (ff8f5e7444045639af65f6095c62210b5713f426; 2017-04-04T07:39:06+12:00)
Maven home: /home/ben/java/maven
Java version: 1.8.0_131, vendor: Oracle Corporation
Java home: /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre
Default locale: en_GB, platform encoding: UTF-8
OS name: “linux”, version: “4.9.0-3-amd64”, arch: “amd64”, family: “unix”

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 30/05/17 09:22, Dave Blasby wrote:

Hi,

For GeoGig, we noticed that the latest Postgresql JDBC driver (42.1.1) now
allows full-binary data transfer. This is better than 25% less bandwidth
than Base64 encoding!

I’d like to update the pom.xml from 9.4.1211 to 42.1.1.

NOTE: PostGIS could be upgraded to use this as its a big win for a remote
(networked) database.
Note: you must use a prepared statement!

https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html

From the pom.xml;

<postgresql.jdbc.version>9.4.1211</postgresql.jdbc.version>

Comments?

Thanks,
Dave


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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Dave Blasby <dblasby@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi, Andrea,

Only updating the driver version.

I can work with the PostGIS maintainer to get it in - it's fairly easy
(just need to ensure that you are using prepared statements).

Maintainer eh? It used to be me and Justin.
When you say "ensure that you are using prepared statements" is that only
to get the actual binary transfer, or it would just
break?
And does that require some specific version of postgresql?

The 25% less transfer is interesting, wondering if you have been looking at
TWKB, that should provide greater savings (with
some potential loss of precision).

Cheers
Andrea

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Hi, Andrea,

if you aren’t using prepared statements, it doesn’t know that the data is binary and it will “kick back” to the standard encoding (with a lot of “\001”-like in the text). It will work, but you are at approximately 300% overhead.

As mentioned, above, I believe it works for PostgreSQL 8.2+ (December 2006).

I did take a look at TWKB, but for GeoGig purposes, the loss of precision is a problem. However, I am planning to look into it - it makes huge space savings when you are looking at already-reduced-precision geometries.

I was also going to look at TWKB-like lossless encoding (ie. Double#doubleToLongBits() and then using a TWKB-like int-diff encoding). However, it’s likely better to just LZ4 the WKB. When I do the testing, I’ll let you know what happens.

Either way, encoding TWKB as real “binary” (wrt Base64) will be another big win.

Thanks,
Dave

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On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:43 AM, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com…> wrote:

On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 7:01 PM, Dave Blasby <dblasby@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi, Andrea,

Only updating the driver version.

I can work with the PostGIS maintainer to get it in - it’s fairly easy (just need to ensure that you are using prepared statements).

Maintainer eh? It used to be me and Justin.
When you say “ensure that you are using prepared statements” is that only to get the actual binary transfer, or it would just
break?
And does that require some specific version of postgresql?

The 25% less transfer is interesting, wondering if you have been looking at TWKB, that should provide greater savings (with
some potential loss of precision).

Cheers

Andrea

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Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so. Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 31/05/17 05:43, Dave Blasby wrote:

Hi, Ben,

Thanks for putting the PR together and making sure everything was tested
(esp online tests).

WRT postgresql version support, I found this in the release notes for
42.0.0;

   - Support for PostgreSQL versions below 8.2 was dropped

Thanks,
Dave

On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Dave,

with this upgrade, a full GeoTools build with online jdbc-postgis tests,
GeoServer build, community module compilation, and app-schema online tests
against postgis all pass. I also confirmed that the correct jar is included
in the assembled war and zip files.

Jira issue: https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOT-5741
Pull request for master: https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1605

Tested on debian unstable amd64:
postgresql-9.6 9.6.3-3 amd64
postgresql-9.6-postgis-2.3 2.3.1+dfsg-2 amd64

It would be good if someone could test this upgrade against an older
postgresql (especially 8).

$ mvn -version
Apache Maven 3.5.0 (ff8f5e7444045639af65f6095c62210b5713f426;
2017-04-04T07:39:06+12:00)
Maven home: /home/ben/java/maven
Java version: 1.8.0_131, vendor: Oracle Corporation
Java home: /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre
Default locale: en_GB, platform encoding: UTF-8
OS name: "linux", version: "4.9.0-3-amd64", arch: "amd64", family: "unix"

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 30/05/17 09:22, Dave Blasby wrote:

Hi,

For GeoGig, we noticed that the latest Postgresql JDBC driver (42.1.1) now
allows full-binary data transfer. This is better than 25% less bandwidth
than Base64 encoding!

I'd like to update the pom.xml from 9.4.1211 to 42.1.1.

NOTE: PostGIS could be upgraded to use this as its a big win for a remote
(networked) database.
Note: you must use a prepared statement!

https://jdbc.postgresql.org/download.html

From the pom.xml;

<postgresql.jdbc.version>9.4.1211</postgresql.jdbc.version>

Comments?

Thanks,
Dave

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On 30 May 2017 at 23:29, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so.
Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

In general I'd say yes, may be best to check what Centos is shipping with
currently as they are often far behind the curve

Ian

Hi,
I don’t know about CentOS, but though I’d look for the oldest supported Ubuntu server, 12.04 [1], it seems it it was shipping with 8.4,
so good from this side

Cheers
Andrea

[1] Still supported only for paying customers but also provided as the default choice on Azure

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Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so. Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

In general I’d say yes, may be best to check what Centos is shipping with currently as they are often far behind the curve

Ian

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Looks like Centos go back to 8.0 but recommend 9.2 (https://yum.postgresql.org/) so probably ok.

Ian

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On 31 May 2017 at 09:12, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I don’t know about CentOS, but though I’d look for the oldest supported Ubuntu server, 12.04 [1], it seems it it was shipping with 8.4,
so good from this side

Cheers
Andrea

[1] Still supported only for paying customers but also provided as the default choice on Azure

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On 30 May 2017 at 23:29, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@…4191…> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so. Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

In general I’d say yes, may be best to check what Centos is shipping with currently as they are often far behind the curve

Ian

Ian Turton

CentOS 6 has 8.4.20:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/os/x86_64/Packages/postgresql-8.4.20-7.el6.x86_64.rpm

CentOS 5 has 8.1.23, but CentOS 5 is past end of life:
http://vault.centos.org/5.11/os/x86_64/CentOS/postgresql-8.1.23-10.el5_10.x86_64.rpm

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 31/05/17 20:17, Ian Turton wrote:

Looks like Centos go back to 8.0 but recommend 9.2 (
https://yum.postgresql.org/) so probably ok.

Ian

On 31 May 2017 at 09:12, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I don't know about CentOS, but though I'd look for the oldest supported
Ubuntu server, 12.04 [1], it seems it it was shipping with 8.4,
so good from this side

Cheers
Andrea

[1] Still supported only for paying customers but also provided as the
default choice on Azure

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 30 May 2017 at 23:29, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so.
Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

In general I'd say yes, may be best to check what Centos is shipping with
currently as they are often far behind the curve

Ian

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Hi,

I was hoping we could merge Ben’s PR, which updates the driver version.

https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1605

Thanks,
Dave

···

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

CentOS 6 has 8.4.20:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/os/x86_64/Packages/postgresql-8.4.20-7.el6.x86_64.rpm

CentOS 5 has 8.1.23, but CentOS 5 is past end of life:
http://vault.centos.org/5.11/os/x86_64/CentOS/postgresql-8.1.23-10.el5_10.x86_64.rpm

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 31/05/17 20:17, Ian Turton wrote:

Looks like Centos go back to 8.0 but recommend 9.2 (
https://yum.postgresql.org/) so probably ok.

Ian

On 31 May 2017 at 09:12, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I don’t know about CentOS, but though I’d look for the oldest supported
Ubuntu server, 12.04 [1], it seems it it was shipping with 8.4,
so good from this side

Cheers
Andrea

[1] Still supported only for paying customers but also provided as the
default choice on Azure

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 30 May 2017 at 23:29, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so.
Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

In general I’d say yes, may be best to check what Centos is shipping with
currently as they are often far behind the curve

Ian



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Hi,
I have no particular object, but not going to take responsibility for it. Merge as you see fit
(and handle whatever side effect).

Cheers
Andrea

···

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Dave Blasby <dblasby@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

I was hoping we could merge Ben’s PR, which updates the driver version.

https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1605

Thanks,
Dave

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

CentOS 6 has 8.4.20:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/os/x86_64/Packages/postgresql-8.4.20-7.el6.x86_64.rpm

CentOS 5 has 8.1.23, but CentOS 5 is past end of life:
http://vault.centos.org/5.11/os/x86_64/CentOS/postgresql-8.1.23-10.el5_10.x86_64.rpm

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 31/05/17 20:17, Ian Turton wrote:

Looks like Centos go back to 8.0 but recommend 9.2 (
https://yum.postgresql.org/) so probably ok.

Ian

On 31 May 2017 at 09:12, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,
I don’t know about CentOS, but though I’d look for the oldest supported
Ubuntu server, 12.04 [1], it seems it it was shipping with 8.4,
so good from this side

Cheers
Andrea

[1] Still supported only for paying customers but also provided as the
default choice on Azure

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 30 May 2017 at 23:29, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so.
Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

In general I’d say yes, may be best to check what Centos is shipping with
currently as they are often far behind the curve

Ian



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Merged on master.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 07/06/17 04:56, Andrea Aime wrote:

Hi,
I have no particular object, but not going to take responsibility for it.
Merge as you see fit
(and handle whatever side effect).

Cheers
Andrea

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Dave Blasby <dblasby@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I was hoping we could merge Ben's PR, which updates the driver version.

https://github.com/geotools/geotools/pull/1605

Thanks,
Dave

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 4:08 AM, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com>
wrote:

CentOS 6 has 8.4.20:
http://mirror.centos.org/centos/6/os/x86_64/Packages/postgre
sql-8.4.20-7.el6.x86_64.rpm

CentOS 5 has 8.1.23, but CentOS 5 is past end of life:
http://vault.centos.org/5.11/os/x86_64/CentOS/postgresql-8.1
.23-10.el5_10.x86_64.rpm

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 31/05/17 20:17, Ian Turton wrote:

Looks like Centos go back to 8.0 but recommend 9.2 (
https://yum.postgresql.org/) so probably ok.

Ian

On 31 May 2017 at 09:12, Andrea Aime <andrea.aime@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi,

I don't know about CentOS, but though I'd look for the oldest supported
Ubuntu server, 12.04 [1], it seems it it was shipping with 8.4,
so good from this side

Cheers
Andrea

[1] Still supported only for paying customers but also provided as the
default choice on Azure

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Ian Turton <ijturton@anonymised.com> wrote:

On 30 May 2017 at 23:29, Ben Caradoc-Davies <ben@anonymised.com> wrote:

Thanks, Dave. That is a good point. I think 8.2 came out in 2006 or so.

Last release for 8.1 was in 2010.

Developers, are we happy to drop support for PostgreSQL below 8.2?

In general I'd say yes, may be best to check what Centos is shipping
with
currently as they are often far behind the curve

Ian

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