Hi,
We’ve been testing out JMS cluster, it’s a standard install using the embedded messenger not ActiveMQ with each node using a shared data directory. Everything works as expected and all changes of layers and styles on the master get propagated to the slave, the exception is layer groups.
Changes to the layer groups don’t get propagated from the master to the slave until we do a refresh. Does anyone have any idea what we might be doing wrong?
Cheers,
Chris
On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Chris Brown <chris@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi,
We've been testing out JMS cluster, it's a standard install using the
embedded messenger not ActiveMQ with each node using a shared data
directory. Everything works as expected and all changes of layers and
styles on the master get propagated to the slave, the exception is layer
groups.Changes to the layer groups don't get propagated from the master to the
slave until we do a refresh. Does anyone have any idea what we might be
doing wrong?
I assume in your case you might have lots of groups and layers with the
same name in different
workspaces, if so, It could be this one:
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7259
Cheers
Andrea
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Hi Andrea,
Thanks Andrea. That’s definitely not the case this time, we’re using a UUID for both the layer and group name. We’re using GeoServer 2.7.2.
Cheers,
Chris
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Chris Brown <chris@anonymised.com…7290…> wrote:
Hi,
We’ve been testing out JMS cluster, it’s a standard install using the embedded messenger not ActiveMQ with each node using a shared data directory. Everything works as expected and all changes of layers and styles on the master get propagated to the slave, the exception is layer groups.
Changes to the layer groups don’t get propagated from the master to the slave until we do a refresh. Does anyone have any idea what we might be doing wrong?
I assume in your case you might have lots of groups and layers with the same name in different
workspaces, if so, It could be this one: https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7259
Cheers
Andrea
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Chris Brown <chris@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Andrea,
Thanks Andrea. That's definitely not the case this time, we're using a
UUID for both the layer and group name. We're using GeoServer 2.7.2.
In that case the issue is unknown, can you report it with a step by step
way to reproduce it (best if against the default data dir)?
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/projects/GEOS/issues
Cheers
Andrea
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Thanks Andrea, I’ve added a new bug report here - https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7263.
Cheers,
Chris
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Chris Brown <chris@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Andrea,
Thanks Andrea. That’s definitely not the case this time, we’re using a UUID for both the layer and group name. We’re using GeoServer 2.7.2.
In that case the issue is unknown, can you report it with a step by step way to reproduce it (best if against the default data dir)?
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/projects/GEOS/issues
Cheers
Andrea
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I can confirm the same issue, with the same setup. I also noticed that
Workspace/General WMS settings are not propagated to slaves. I haven't
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please, create a JIRA report that describes the problem!
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Ciao Chris,
see my message on the JIRA report.
I have tested on master and it worked for me. We might need more info.
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Chris Brown <chris@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Andrea,
Thanks Andrea. That’s definitely not the case this time, we’re using a UUID for both the layer and group name. We’re using GeoServer 2.7.2.
In that case the issue is unknown, can you report it with a step by step way to reproduce it (best if against the default data dir)?
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/projects/GEOS/issues
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Andrea
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Just did that:
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7269
<https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-7269>
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Ciao Simone,
Sorry for being slow to response. We implemented a work around where by we stopped using layer groups and instead just listed the layers in the LAYERS argument of our WMS request, but then realized that we can’t us GeoWebCache when doing that.
I’ve come back and tried to isolate this bug and find some repeatable steps. Here they are:
Sorry for the delay with coming back on this. I’ve managed to isolate this bug and make it easily repeatable with a standard setup.
Here’s the setup:
GeoServer 1: Clean install running 2.8, in it’s own Tomcat container, running JMS-Cluster with default settings.
GeoServer 2: Clean install running 2.8, in it’s own Tomcat container, running JMS-Cluster with default settings.
Both GeoServer’s are sharing the same data directory.
Steps to repeat:
Attempts to resolve:
None of the above worked. I’ve also posted this information to the bug report. So it seems layer groups don’t work when using JMS Clustering in versions 2.7 or 2.8 (haven’t tried others).
When you have time, could you please check if you see the same thing when repeating the same steps as me?
Cheers,
Chris
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see my message on the JIRA report.
I have tested on master and it worked for me. We might need more info.
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On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Chris Brown <chris@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi Andrea,
Thanks Andrea. That’s definitely not the case this time, we’re using a UUID for both the layer and group name. We’re using GeoServer 2.7.2.
In that case the issue is unknown, can you report it with a step by step way to reproduce it (best if against the default data dir)?
https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/projects/GEOS/issues
Cheers
Andrea
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