[Geoserver-users] MaxPermSize warning with Java 8

Hi,

I wrote as an end user who does not care about the other users.

The main question is that is it useful at all to explicitly set MaxMetaspaceSize for Java 8 because there is a system which should set MetaspaceSize to reasonable size automatically.

If everything works fine without setting MaxMeatspaceSize then it is probably better not to set it and keep startup files more simple.

However, sooner or later some other user notices the warning as well and asks the meaning of it from the mailing list. Perhaps I will start to care about other users and try to remove the warning by adding a Java version check into the startup.bat for Windows by following the Linux example from

https://github.com/sbt/sbt-native-packager/issues/203 and then share the result. I don’t mind if some other user on the list makes it before me.

-Jukka Rahkonen-

Andrea Aime wrote:

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Hi Jukka,

we cannot simply replace the option, since it’s unknown to Java 7:

java -version

java version “1.7.0_72”

Java™ SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_72-b14)

Java HotSpot™ 64-Bit Server VM (build 24.72-b04, mixed mode)

java -jar -XX:MaxMetaspaceSize=128m …

Unrecognized VM option ‘MaxMetaspaceSize=128m’

To avoid the warning we’d have to first recognize the java version, and then decide

which option to use (or if you to use it at all).

It’s probably not too hard I guess, we’d have to parse the first line of

output in “java -version”, extract the version and setup the options accordingly.

But wondering if we should just leave it be and wait for us to upgrade to java 8 as the

minimum version. On one side, java 7 is unsupported, on the other end, we have

enforced java 7 only recently (starting with 2.6.x if I remember correctly), so not

sure 2.8.x will be a good time to do the switch… maybe 2.9.x instead? (March 2016?)

Cheers

Andrea

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <jukka.rahkonen@…6847…> wrote:

Hi,

Geoserver works OK for me with jre 8 but in the beginning of startup this message is printed to the console:

JAVA_HOME: C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_40

Please wait while loading GeoServer…

Java HotSpot™ Client VM warning: ignoring option MaxPermSize=128m; support

was removed in 8.0

I read from http://www.infoq.com/news/2013/03/java-8-permgen-metaspace that instead of MaxPermSize Java 8 has a MaxMetaspaceSize but also that Java 8 can also increase the new MetaspaceSize automatically if needed and it is not necessary to set it at all.

I know that the MaxPermSize warning is just a warning but it I however would like to get rid of it with Java 8, would it be better to

a) remove “set JAVA_OPTS=-XX:MaxPermSize=128m” from the Geoserver startup file or

b) edit it into “set JAVA_OPTS=-XX:MaxMetaspaceSize=128m” ?

-Jukka Rahkonen-



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On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Rahkonen Jukka (MML) <
jukka.rahkonen@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi,

I wrote as an end user who does not care about the other users.

The main question is that is it useful at all to explicitly set
MaxMetaspaceSize for Java 8 because there is a system which should set
MetaspaceSize to reasonable size automatically.

If everything works fine without setting MaxMeatspaceSize then it is
probably better not to set it and keep startup files more simple.

In Java 8, I believe it will be better not to set it anymore. But in Java
7, if we don't set it, we'll get a OOM within minutes (well, it depends
how much of the GeoServer functionality
is used, but by memory, once you have used GUI, WMS and WFS you are already
in permgen OOM, or close).

However, sooner or later some other user notices the warning as well and
asks the meaning of it from the mailing list. Perhaps I will start to care
about other users and try to remove the warning by adding a Java version
check into the startup.bat for Windows by following the Linux example from

https://github.com/sbt/sbt-native-packager/issues/203 and then share the
result. I don’t mind if some other user on the list makes it before me.

Nice starting point of Linux. I was hoping to find something for Windows,
but apparently they do not even check the minimum version number there:
https://github.com/sbt/sbt-native-packager/blob/master/src/main/resources/com/typesafe/sbt/packager/archetypes/bat-template

Cheres
Andrea

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