Hi all
Is there any movement toward supporting ‘point data’ in netCDF format for geoserver? The current netCDF plugin treats data as a raster source, but we are also looking at using netCDF to store ungridded point data.
Just an off the top of my head question, since I just hit a little conceptual wall with a task. From my point of view it would be super handy - but I realise it’s not (yet) a common use of netCDF files.
Thanks!
Adam
Dear Adam,
I can talk about our (as in GeoSolutions) plan as I can't speak for the others.
In the past we have done some minor work in exposing trajectories
straight out of netcdf-cf (if my memory serves me right) but we ended
up transferring this information to Postgis at ingestion time since we
did not want to reinvent the wheel as the amount of data we had was
huge.
Long story short, I don't see plans in the short term to support
vector data out of netcdf.
Probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but at least you have an answer 
Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director
GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via di Montramito 3/A
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928
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On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 3:35 AM, Adam Steer <Adam.Steer@anonymised.com> wrote:
Hi all
Is there any movement toward supporting ‘point data’ in netCDF format for geoserver? The current netCDF plugin treats data as a raster source, but we are also looking at using netCDF to store ungridded point data.
Just an off the top of my head question, since I just hit a little conceptual wall with a task. From my point of view it would be super handy - but I realise it’s not (yet) a common use of netCDF files.
Thanks!
Adam
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Thanks Simone,
It’s interesting enough to hear that you went to postGIS instead of building ways to use netCDF. We face the reverse problem: very big datasets in netCDF files that would preferably remain in netCDF files, but cannot always be treated as rasters or grids.
At least figuring out how to deal with it will keep us entertained!
Regards
Adam
On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:18 PM, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@...1107...> wrote:
Dear Adam,
I can talk about our (as in GeoSolutions) plan as I can't speak for the others.In the past we have done some minor work in exposing trajectories
straight out of netcdf-cf (if my memory serves me right) but we ended
up transferring this information to Postgis at ingestion time since we
did not want to reinvent the wheel as the amount of data we had was
huge.Long story short, I don't see plans in the short term to support
vector data out of netcdf.
Probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but at least you have an answerRegards,
Simone GiannecchiniGeoServer Professional Services from the experts!
Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information.Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/DirectorGeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via di Montramito 3/A
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928http://www.geo-solutions.it
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Hi all
Is there any movement toward supporting ‘point data’ in netCDF format for geoserver? The current netCDF plugin treats data as a raster source, but we are also looking at using netCDF to store ungridded point data.
Just an off the top of my head question, since I just hit a little conceptual wall with a task. From my point of view it would be super handy - but I realise it’s not (yet) a common use of netCDF files.
Thanks!
Adam
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Dear Adam,
mind you, I don't claim our approach to be a good one or even a _very_ good one.
I just felt that with such a large amount of vector data a spatial
DBMS would be better suited (we also tried mongodb for the point
sampling if I remember correctly).
I don't think it is _too_ difficult to implement good support for a
single NetCDF but problems might arise if you want to merge multiple
netcdf files into a single datasource. By experience that is usually
the use case since most of the time these netcdf files are either
produced as part of a stream of forecasts or in-situ acquisitions.
I am anyway interested in seeing what you will do in the end with this data.
Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/Director
GeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via di Montramito 3/A
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928
http://www.geo-solutions.it
http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it
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On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 1:46 AM, Adam Steer <Adam.Steer@anonymised.com> wrote:
Thanks Simone,
It’s interesting enough to hear that you went to postGIS instead of building ways to use netCDF. We face the reverse problem: very big datasets in netCDF files that would preferably remain in netCDF files, but cannot always be treated as rasters or grids.
At least figuring out how to deal with it will keep us entertained!
Regards
Adam
On 11 Jul 2016, at 11:18 PM, Simone Giannecchini <simone.giannecchini@anonymised.com.1107...> wrote:
Dear Adam,
I can talk about our (as in GeoSolutions) plan as I can't speak for the others.In the past we have done some minor work in exposing trajectories
straight out of netcdf-cf (if my memory serves me right) but we ended
up transferring this information to Postgis at ingestion time since we
did not want to reinvent the wheel as the amount of data we had was
huge.Long story short, I don't see plans in the short term to support
vector data out of netcdf.
Probably not the answer you wanted to hear, but at least you have an answerRegards,
Simone GiannecchiniGeoServer Professional Services from the experts!
Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information.Ing. Simone Giannecchini
@simogeo
Founder/DirectorGeoSolutions S.A.S.
Via di Montramito 3/A
55054 Massarosa (LU)
Italy
phone: +39 0584 962313
fax: +39 0584 1660272
mob: +39 333 8128928http://www.geo-solutions.it
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Hi all
Is there any movement toward supporting ‘point data’ in netCDF format for geoserver? The current netCDF plugin treats data as a raster source, but we are also looking at using netCDF to store ungridded point data.
Just an off the top of my head question, since I just hit a little conceptual wall with a task. From my point of view it would be super handy - but I realise it’s not (yet) a common use of netCDF files.
Thanks!
Adam
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