[Geoserver-users] newbie questions

GeoServer GeoServer User
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Hi Folks

I am trying to get some basic details straight so please bare with me :slight_smile:

Firstly I am a bit confused as to the relationship between opengeosuite and geoserver. On my mac both install an application called geoserver.

I started out with the suite but when I tried the qgis opengeo plugin it complained about the version of geoserver. I then installed geoserver 2.5.1 and the plugin still bitched :slight_smile:

In the last week or so I have been working trough issues with the plugin but now have some layers “published”. I remembered geoexplorer from my initial play around with geoserver suite but was surprised when the url returned 404.

I have come to the conclusion that installing geoserver does not include the explorer functionality. To get that I need to install the full suite. Correct?

I also conclude that the suite is not updated often and lags substantially behind the server install.

I am now left wondering what to do. I take it I need explorer to provide a reasonable interface for users and do more than simply preview layers one at a time?

Can both versions coexist and share a data_dir? Hmmmm… the two versions put their data_dir in radically different places!

What version of geoserver should I be using to work with the qgis plugin? Can I use it with the server version in the suite? (2.4.snapshot)

Any help much appreciated!

Russell

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On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Russell Fulton <russell@anonymised.com>
wrote:

Hi Folks

I am trying to get some basic details straight so please bare with me :slight_smile:

Firstly I am a bit confused as to the relationship between opengeosuite
and geoserver. On my mac both install an application called geoserver.

Yeah, the relationship is indeed confusing.
The OpengGeo suite bundles GeoServer, but it's not the "normal" one that
the geoserver.org community produces.
It has a different theme, and a set of plugins that are either missing from
the normal GeoServer, or that are considered
community (unsupported) modules in GeoServer, but are supported ones in the
suite (and possibly vice-versa, not sure).

The relationship between the suite and GeoServer is sort of one way,
Boundless contributes to the development of
GeoServer (and we are grateful for that), but the suite, besides being open
source from the licensing stand-point,
provides no way for others to get engaged and contribute (no mailing lists,
no formalized way to contribute changes
and/or discuss them): let's say, open source but closed project management,
it's really a company product instead of an open project like GeoServer.

This is why we normally don't give support for the GeoServer bundled in the
suite in this mailing list, but prefer to get reports
about the official version geoserver.org releases instead (since we can
know for sure what's in them).

What version of geoserver should I be using to work with the qgis plugin?
  Can I use it with the server version in the suite? (2.4.snapshot)

The qgis plugin is managed the same way as the rest of the suite, hopefully
someone from Boundless will
chime in and provide some idea, but I hear their preferred support channel
is stackexchange using
the #boundless tag... and oh! I was about to give the link, and I see you
already asked there too:
http://gis.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/boundless

Cheers
Andrea

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Thanks very much for clearing it up. I figured it must be something like that — I have come across similar setups in the IT security world where I spend my day time :wink: The plugin support is fine by the way, once I found their tracker on github. The developer is responsive. It turns out that the plugin does work fine with the 2.4 version. It is still somewhat buggy but I am happy to help fix that and the developer seems keen too.

Thanks for a great OS project I have been able to get my project out of QGIS and up and running in a couple of wet weekends starting from scratch. I ended up exporting the layers from qgis by copying the sql filters — that bit is broken in the plugin. But what was a godsend was being able to export complicated rule based styles. So using QGIS to develop the styles and then push them into Geoserver is a big win IMHO.

Looking forward to working with your community.

Russell

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On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 3:13 AM, Russell Fulton <russell@anonymised.com> wrote:

Hi Folks

I am trying to get some basic details straight so please bare with me :slight_smile:

Firstly I am a bit confused as to the relationship between opengeosuite and geoserver. On my mac both install an application called geoserver.

Yeah, the relationship is indeed confusing.