Hi List,
Slightly offtopic, but maybe the GeoServer community can offer some thoughts.
We’re having some Open Source JavaScript functionality developed which allows a user to see a nice user-friendly list of WMS / WFS / TMS etc layers- based on the GetCapabilities - and then add them to an Open Layers project. You can see a prototype here - http://lib.heron-mc.org/heron/latest/examples/catalog/ (“Add Layers” button in the top left).
What we want is a nice pretty thumbnail image next to each entry to try and make it more user friendly than a spreadsheet list would be. An example of what it looks like so far:
For the images it’s currently using simple GetLegendGraphic requests. But there are a number of problems with this:
Not all WMS servers support it.
They don’t work with WFS
Doesn’t work for non-styled rasters.
Complicated legends simply don’t fit (as the below screenshot):
GetMap requests have been considered but that seems to be prone to killing poorly optimised WMS Servers (and/or ones with complicated layers).
Does the community have any thoughts on possible solutions to this? Some way of previewing WMS or WFS layers, ideally using something from the standards, but if necessary something GeoServer specific.
I’m aware that GeoNetwork/CSW includes thumbnail ability, but as we need the solution to work for servers we don’t control as well, requiring that is suboptimal.
Any thoughts welcome.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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In uDig we have the same problem, and I ended up with a couple tricks …
I always ask for a 16x16 GetLegendGraphic, if there server gives me back something else it is usually because it has there is one of those “complicated” legend graphics - in that case I pull out a 16x16 square.
For your raster example I recommend getting a tile or overview, so at least the colours match the result, you could take the same approach with WMS.
Hi List,
Slightly offtopic, but maybe the GeoServer community can offer some thoughts.
We’re having some Open Source JavaScript functionality developed which allows a user to see a nice user-friendly list of WMS / WFS / TMS etc layers- based on the GetCapabilities - and then add them to an Open Layers project. You can see a prototype here - http://lib.heron-mc.org/heron/latest/examples/catalog/ (“Add Layers” button in the top left).
What we want is a nice pretty thumbnail image next to each entry to try and make it more user friendly than a spreadsheet list would be. An example of what it looks like so far:
For the images it’s currently using simple GetLegendGraphic requests. But there are a number of problems with this:
Not all WMS servers support it.
They don’t work with WFS
Doesn’t work for non-styled rasters.
Complicated legends simply don’t fit (as the below screenshot):
GetMap requests have been considered but that seems to be prone to killing poorly optimised WMS Servers (and/or ones with complicated layers).
Does the community have any thoughts on possible solutions to this? Some way of previewing WMS or WFS layers, ideally using something from the standards, but if necessary something GeoServer specific.
I’m aware that GeoNetwork/CSW includes thumbnail ability, but as we need the solution to work for servers we don’t control as well, requiring that is suboptimal.
Any thoughts welcome.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Hi Jody,
Thanks for your thoughts. GeoServer doesn’t currently correctly report the legend size in GetCapabilities which compounds this problem (though this should be getting fixed soon).
Our current “preferred” solution is likely to use the attribution logo for a pre-created image for each layer. Not what it’s designed for and it won’t work on external services (we have no control), but oh well.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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In uDig we have the same problem, and I ended up with a couple tricks …
I always ask for a 16x16 GetLegendGraphic, if there server gives me back something else it is usually because it has there is one of those “complicated” legend graphics - in that case I pull out a 16x16 square.
For your raster example I recommend getting a tile or overview, so at least the colours match the result, you could take the same approach with WMS.
Hi List,
Slightly offtopic, but maybe the GeoServer community can offer some thoughts.
We’re having some Open Source JavaScript functionality developed which allows a user to see a nice user-friendly list of WMS / WFS / TMS etc layers- based on the GetCapabilities - and then add them to an Open Layers project. You can see a prototype here - http://lib.heron-mc.org/heron/latest/examples/catalog/ (“Add Layers” button in the top left).
What we want is a nice pretty thumbnail image next to each entry to try and make it more user friendly than a spreadsheet list would be. An example of what it looks like so far:
For the images it’s currently using simple GetLegendGraphic requests. But there are a number of problems with this:
Not all WMS servers support it.
They don’t work with WFS
Doesn’t work for non-styled rasters.
Complicated legends simply don’t fit (as the below screenshot):
GetMap requests have been considered but that seems to be prone to killing poorly optimised WMS Servers (and/or ones with complicated layers).
Does the community have any thoughts on possible solutions to this? Some way of previewing WMS or WFS layers, ideally using something from the standards, but if necessary something GeoServer specific.
I’m aware that GeoNetwork/CSW includes thumbnail ability, but as we need the solution to work for servers we don’t control as well, requiring that is suboptimal.
Any thoughts welcome.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Hi Jody,
Thanks for your thoughts. GeoServer doesn’t currently correctly report the legend size in GetCapabilities which compounds this problem (though this should be getting fixed soon).
Our current “preferred” solution is likely to use the attribution logo for a pre-created image for each layer. Not what it’s designed for and it won’t work on external services (we have no control), but oh well.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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In uDig we have the same problem, and I ended up with a couple tricks …
I always ask for a 16x16 GetLegendGraphic, if there server gives me back something else it is usually because it has there is one of those “complicated” legend graphics - in that case I pull out a 16x16 square.
For your raster example I recommend getting a tile or overview, so at least the colours match the result, you could take the same approach with WMS.
Hi List,
Slightly offtopic, but maybe the GeoServer community can offer some thoughts.
We’re having some Open Source JavaScript functionality developed which allows a user to see a nice user-friendly list of WMS / WFS / TMS etc layers- based on the GetCapabilities - and then add them to an Open Layers project. You can see a prototype here - http://lib.heron-mc.org/heron/latest/examples/catalog/ (“Add Layers” button in the top left).
What we want is a nice pretty thumbnail image next to each entry to try and make it more user friendly than a spreadsheet list would be. An example of what it looks like so far:
For the images it’s currently using simple GetLegendGraphic requests. But there are a number of problems with this:
Not all WMS servers support it.
They don’t work with WFS
Doesn’t work for non-styled rasters.
Complicated legends simply don’t fit (as the below screenshot):
GetMap requests have been considered but that seems to be prone to killing poorly optimised WMS Servers (and/or ones with complicated layers).
Does the community have any thoughts on possible solutions to this? Some way of previewing WMS or WFS layers, ideally using something from the standards, but if necessary something GeoServer specific.
I’m aware that GeoNetwork/CSW includes thumbnail ability, but as we need the solution to work for servers we don’t control as well, requiring that is suboptimal.
Any thoughts welcome.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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I guess it’ll be in the nightly SNAPSHOT for 2.5?
Cheers,
Jonathan
Hi Jody,
Thanks for your thoughts. GeoServer doesn’t currently correctly report the legend size in GetCapabilities which compounds this problem (though this should be getting fixed soon).
Our current “preferred” solution is likely to use the attribution logo for a pre-created image for each layer. Not what it’s designed for and it won’t work on external services (we have no control), but oh well.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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In uDig we have the same problem, and I ended up with a couple tricks …
I always ask for a 16x16 GetLegendGraphic, if there server gives me back something else it is usually because it has there is one of those “complicated” legend graphics - in that case I pull out a 16x16 square.
For your raster example I recommend getting a tile or overview, so at least the colours match the result, you could take the same approach with WMS.
Hi List,
Slightly offtopic, but maybe the GeoServer community can offer some thoughts.
We’re having some Open Source JavaScript functionality developed which allows a user to see a nice user-friendly list of WMS / WFS / TMS etc layers- based on the GetCapabilities - and then add them to an Open Layers project. You can see a prototype here - http://lib.heron-mc.org/heron/latest/examples/catalog/ (“Add Layers” button in the top left).
What we want is a nice pretty thumbnail image next to each entry to try and make it more user friendly than a spreadsheet list would be. An example of what it looks like so far:
For the images it’s currently using simple GetLegendGraphic requests. But there are a number of problems with this:
Not all WMS servers support it.
They don’t work with WFS
Doesn’t work for non-styled rasters.
Complicated legends simply don’t fit (as the below screenshot):
GetMap requests have been considered but that seems to be prone to killing poorly optimised WMS Servers (and/or ones with complicated layers).
Does the community have any thoughts on possible solutions to this? Some way of previewing WMS or WFS layers, ideally using something from the standards, but if necessary something GeoServer specific.
I’m aware that GeoNetwork/CSW includes thumbnail ability, but as we need the solution to work for servers we don’t control as well, requiring that is suboptimal.
Any thoughts welcome.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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When it is accepted it will be in a nightly snapshot for 2.6. As a new feature I am not quite sure about back porting it. I will ask on geoserver-devel.
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I guess it’ll be in the nightly SNAPSHOT for 2.5?
Cheers,
Jonathan
Hi Jody,
Thanks for your thoughts. GeoServer doesn’t currently correctly report the legend size in GetCapabilities which compounds this problem (though this should be getting fixed soon).
Our current “preferred” solution is likely to use the attribution logo for a pre-created image for each layer. Not what it’s designed for and it won’t work on external services (we have no control), but oh well.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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In uDig we have the same problem, and I ended up with a couple tricks …
I always ask for a 16x16 GetLegendGraphic, if there server gives me back something else it is usually because it has there is one of those “complicated” legend graphics - in that case I pull out a 16x16 square.
For your raster example I recommend getting a tile or overview, so at least the colours match the result, you could take the same approach with WMS.
Hi List,
Slightly offtopic, but maybe the GeoServer community can offer some thoughts.
We’re having some Open Source JavaScript functionality developed which allows a user to see a nice user-friendly list of WMS / WFS / TMS etc layers- based on the GetCapabilities - and then add them to an Open Layers project. You can see a prototype here - http://lib.heron-mc.org/heron/latest/examples/catalog/ (“Add Layers” button in the top left).
What we want is a nice pretty thumbnail image next to each entry to try and make it more user friendly than a spreadsheet list would be. An example of what it looks like so far:
For the images it’s currently using simple GetLegendGraphic requests. But there are a number of problems with this:
Not all WMS servers support it.
They don’t work with WFS
Doesn’t work for non-styled rasters.
Complicated legends simply don’t fit (as the below screenshot):
GetMap requests have been considered but that seems to be prone to killing poorly optimised WMS Servers (and/or ones with complicated layers).
Does the community have any thoughts on possible solutions to this? Some way of previewing WMS or WFS layers, ideally using something from the standards, but if necessary something GeoServer specific.
I’m aware that GeoNetwork/CSW includes thumbnail ability, but as we need the solution to work for servers we don’t control as well, requiring that is suboptimal.
Any thoughts welcome.
Cheers,
Jonathan
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Would love it if you could test.