[Gfoss] [geo-discuss] Todo, and what's next, for Open Geodata at OKFN

PER INFO
(scusate cross-posting)

Nel messaggio, Jo Walsh si parla del futuro di http://www.publicgeodata.org/ e di:

  • OKFN (Accesso libero ai dati cartografici raccolti dallo Stato > http://okfn.org/geo/manifesto.it.php)

  • … open geodata index and search service (somewhat like what they call a ‘GeoPortal’)

  • … open source GIS community response to the Metadata IR draft through OSGeo (Lorenzo … anche in OSGeo ci sono altri “tapini” che si entusiasmano ai metadati !!)

  • OAI-PMH… ‘mass market metadata’ extensions to Dublin Core using GeoRSS
    pg

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jo Walsh < jo@frot.org>
Date: Feb 27, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: [geo-discuss] Todo, and what’s next, for Open Geodata at OKFN
To: geo-discuss@lists.okfn.org
Cc: okfn-discuss@lists.okfn.org

dear all,

It’s been an interesting year since the start of the OKFN-supported
Public Peodata campaign. A sea changing in public geodata policy, and
an INSPIRE directive lean on meat but not poisonous to access either.

I have a todo list as long as my arm. I write it down here both for
tracking purposes and in hopes we may be able to raise offers of help.

  1. Closing the public geodata petition
  • We are still getting requests to sign and to add Romania and Bulgaria
    to the list. (The Romanian open source GIS/open geodata scene is kicking)
    As the petition is specific to INSPIRE which will irrevocably become law,
    it needs to be closed and these things should happen first.
  1. Replacing the signup system / UI for the original ‘Open Geodata Manifesto’,
    with either phpPetition or something better, setting up a redirect.
  • This involves a bit of php and css hacking. The setup work is done.
  1. Updating the publicgeodata.org wiki to reflect the current state of INSPIRE.
  • Roger wrote a really nice piece on EGIP about what public authorities
    INSPIRE will affect, i dumped this into the wiki but never linked it.
  1. Moving the current handwritten-html, dated pages at http://okfn.org/geo/
    into the OKFN wiki, and setting up redirects.

  2. Emailing the 8000 people who signed the petition, thanking them for their
    support and pointing them at the wiki.

  • Some of these people will want a way to help. What’s there to do?

These are my thoughts about “what next” for Public Geodata and OKFN/geo
for the rest of this year.

  1. I want to slowly turn publicgeodata.org into an open geodata index and
    search service (somewhat like what they call a ‘GeoPortal’).
  • In the short term we can have wiki links per country page to available
    local and regional and specialist sources
  • In the longer term it can become a ‘facet’ of a distributed data repository
    with metadata from GeoNetwork, as INSPIRE picks up speed and we get
    better access to geographic metadata.
  1. I want to carry on the process of open analysis of, and response to, the
    Implementing Rules drafts and the work of the Spatial Data Theme volunteer
    groups. I’m coordinating an open source GIS community response to the
    Metadata IR draft through OSGeo. The deadline for this is a month’s time.
    Metadata is the only area in which I feel Very Certain Of My Opinions And
    Keen to Express Them.
  • I can do a goodish amount of writing but could really use an editor
  • I’d love someone else to volunteer to be contact point for the FOSS SDIC.
  1. I want to connect the dots more with the CKAN (CPAN for open data) project
    that sits alongside Kforge, with Rufus’ work on a very lightweight
    implementation thereof. OAI-PMH… ‘mass market metadata’ extensions to
    Dublin Core using GeoRSS… all this sort of thing.

That’s it for now. It’s amazing that we’ve managed to do what we have with
so little time and resources available. Arresting the decay in the online
presence, adding a bit of spit and polish, we could be actually proud of it.

jo


geo-discuss mailing list
geo-discuss@lists.okfn.org
http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/geo-discuss


Piergiorgio Cipriano
pg.cipriano@gmail.com

Rispondo solo in lista GFOSS, visto che il discorso ruota intorno a OSGeo, rispetto alla quale GFOSS intende porsi come italian chapter (correggetemi se sbaglio visto che seguo la lista e la comunità da poco).

Soprattutto " open geodata" (ovvero okfn, ovvero l’idea geoportal, ovvero ecc…), ma anche “metadata”, sono temi su cui OsGeo batte parecchio (Jo Walsh in testa). Di riflesso dovrebbero costituire materia di lavoro dei local chapters.

Bisogna dunque, credo, investire tempo e risorse per perseguire gli obiettivi che sono elencati su http://www.osgeo.org/geodata, il che darebbe seguito anche ad un dichiarato obiettivo di GFOSS come associazione: " promuovere gli standard aperti per l’informazione geografica e il libero accesso ai dati geografici". Se non sbaglio proprio recentemente in questa lista qualcuno (pibinko forse? sono nuovo della lista ma piano piano cerco di conoscervi …) aveva riproposto l’attenzione sul tema geodati e sul monitoraggio già svolto del livello regionale italiano.

Il discorso metadata è altrettanto importante e se OsGeo, come dalle dichiarazioni di Walsh, pare voler concertare una risposta/commento alle Implementing Rules di INSPIRE per i metadati di dati e servizi, il contributo del chapter italiano potrebbe avere come base proprio il lavoro già svolto da Piergiorgio.

M

2007/2/27, Piergiorgio Cipriano <pg.cipriano@gmail.com>:

PER INFO
(scusate cross-posting)

Nel messaggio, Jo Walsh si parla del futuro di http://www.publicgeodata.org/ e di:

  • OKFN (Accesso libero ai dati cartografici raccolti dallo Stato > http://okfn.org/geo/manifesto.it.php)

  • … open geodata index and search service (somewhat like what they call a ‘GeoPortal’)

  • … open source GIS community response to the Metadata IR draft through OSGeo (Lorenzo … anche in OSGeo ci sono altri “tapini” che si entusiasmano ai metadati !!)

  • OAI-PMH… ‘mass market metadata’ extensions to Dublin Core using GeoRSS
    pg

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jo Walsh < jo@frot.org>
Date: Feb 27, 2007 2:05 PM
Subject: [geo-discuss] Todo, and what’s next, for Open Geodata at OKFN
To: geo-discuss@lists.okfn.org
Cc: okfn-discuss@lists.okfn.org

dear all,

It’s been an interesting year since the start of the OKFN-supported
Public Peodata campaign. A sea changing in public geodata policy, and
an INSPIRE directive lean on meat but not poisonous to access either.

I have a todo list as long as my arm. I write it down here both for
tracking purposes and in hopes we may be able to raise offers of help.

  1. Closing the public geodata petition
  • We are still getting requests to sign and to add Romania and Bulgaria
    to the list. (The Romanian open source GIS/open geodata scene is kicking)
    As the petition is specific to INSPIRE which will irrevocably become law,
    it needs to be closed and these things should happen first.
  1. Replacing the signup system / UI for the original ‘Open Geodata Manifesto’,
    with either phpPetition or something better, setting up a redirect.
  • This involves a bit of php and css hacking. The setup work is done.
  1. Updating the publicgeodata.org wiki to reflect the current state of INSPIRE.
  • Roger wrote a really nice piece on EGIP about what public authorities
    INSPIRE will affect, i dumped this into the wiki but never linked it.
  1. Moving the current handwritten-html, dated pages at http://okfn.org/geo/
    into the OKFN wiki, and setting up redirects.

  2. Emailing the 8000 people who signed the petition, thanking them for their
    support and pointing them at the wiki.

  • Some of these people will want a way to help. What’s there to do?

These are my thoughts about “what next” for Public Geodata and OKFN/geo
for the rest of this year.

  1. I want to slowly turn publicgeodata.org into an open geodata index and
    search service (somewhat like what they call a ‘GeoPortal’).
  • In the short term we can have wiki links per country page to available
    local and regional and specialist sources
  • In the longer term it can become a ‘facet’ of a distributed data repository
    with metadata from GeoNetwork, as INSPIRE picks up speed and we get
    better access to geographic metadata.
  1. I want to carry on the process of open analysis of, and response to, the
    Implementing Rules drafts and the work of the Spatial Data Theme volunteer
    groups. I’m coordinating an open source GIS community response to the
    Metadata IR draft through OSGeo. The deadline for this is a month’s time.
    Metadata is the only area in which I feel Very Certain Of My Opinions And
    Keen to Express Them.
  • I can do a goodish amount of writing but could really use an editor
  • I’d love someone else to volunteer to be contact point for the FOSS SDIC.
  1. I want to connect the dots more with the CKAN (CPAN for open data) project
    that sits alongside Kforge, with Rufus’ work on a very lightweight
    implementation thereof. OAI-PMH… ‘mass market metadata’ extensions to
    Dublin Core using GeoRSS… all this sort of thing.

That’s it for now. It’s amazing that we’ve managed to do what we have with
so little time and resources available. Arresting the decay in the online
presence, adding a bit of spit and polish, we could be actually proud of it.

jo


geo-discuss mailing list
geo-discuss@lists.okfn.org
http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/geo-discuss


Piergiorgio Cipriano
pg.cipriano@gmail.com

Rispondo solo in lista GFOSS, visto che il discorso ruota intorno a OSGeo,
rispetto alla quale GFOSS intende porsi come italian chapter (correggetemi
se sbaglio visto che seguo la lista e la comunità da poco).

Soprattutto "open geodata" (ovvero okfn, ovvero l'idea geoportal, ovvero
ecc...), ma anche "metadata", sono temi su cui OsGeo batte parecchio (Jo
Walsh in testa). Di riflesso dovrebbero costituire materia di lavoro dei
local chapters.

Bisogna dunque, credo, investire tempo e risorse per perseguire gli
obiettivi che sono elencati su http://www.osgeo.org/geodata, il che darebbe
seguito anche ad un dichiarato obiettivo di GFOSS come associazione:
"promuovere
gli standard aperti per l'informazione geografica e il libero accesso ai
dati geografici". Se non sbaglio proprio recentemente in questa lista
qualcuno (pibinko forse? sono nuovo della lista ma piano piano cerco di
conoscervi ...) aveva riproposto l'attenzione sul tema geodati e sul
monitoraggio già svolto del livello regionale italiano.

Il discorso metadata è altrettanto importante e se OsGeo, come dalle
dichiarazioni di Walsh, pare voler concertare una risposta/commento alle
Implementing Rules di INSPIRE per i metadati di dati e servizi, il
contributo del chapter italiano potrebbe avere come base proprio il lavoro
già svolto da Piergiorgio.

Marco,
la tua analisi è impeccabile.
Si scontra attualmente con una coda di impegni che riguardano un po' tutti (pensa che il comunicato ufficiale di come è fatta l'associazione non è ancora uscito), per cui non c'è ancora chi sia in grado di gestire in prima persona questa faccenda.
Le vostre osservazioni e le vostre analisi sono molto importanti e io le uso come fonte di aggiornamento.
Jo Walsh (zool) sta portando avanti una dura battaglia ma anche in OSGeo non sono in molti che reggano il passo.
Un motivo prima di tutti: è un affare europeo.
E gli europei, ora come ora, in osgeo sono pochi.
Vi invito a continuare a mantenerci informati che al momento giusto arriveremo a massa critica e qualcosa si muoverà.

grazie
Lorenzo