On 21/05/15 18:11, Vaclav Petras wrote:
On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 11:01 AM, William Hargrove <hnw@geobabble.org
<mailto:hnw@geobabble.org>> wrote:
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> This is for old GRASS codgers like me who run GRASS commands
*outside* the GRASS shell, by setting all of the environment variables.
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> This is the way that we change active mapsets as well.
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> I do this to have all of the *nix commands integrated seamlessly with
GRASS commands.
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Hi Bill,
it's good to have this feedback. I understand what you are doing but I'm
not sure about the details.
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> If a particular GRASS command aborts or dies, the temp files in the
.tmp directory are left behind.
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> Since we never run the shell, .tmp is never deleted, and they build
up, eating disk space.
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So you are using clean_temp in your scripts?
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> This thread is also germane with respect to the current discussion of
GRASS environment variables.
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> Currently I shift between GRASS 6 and 7 by sourcing an alternative
.bashrc file that makes use of the strippath function to clean GRASS 6
stuff from the existing paths ...
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> Please don't eliminate env variables or alter them too significantly ...
It would be best if you send the scripts and .bashrc you are using. If
you have there too much private stuff and you don't want to clean it,
please send it to me, I'll should be able to understand. It's hard to
tell which parts of interface people are actually using (or what they
consider as an interface). The actual code is thus necessary.
Note also that there is a new interface (in trunk) which removes the
need for setting up the (fake) GRASS session manually [1]. But changes
to user's scripts are needed.
[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/ticket/2579#comment:14
I think this new interface is really great and will be really useful for many of us. Thanks Vaclav !
However, if you write a script calling many different GRASS commands, it might still be more convenient to just set a few variables at the beginning of the script (or source a specific rc files as Bill) and then just be able to call grass commands as any other shell command, instead of having to type 'grass71 ~/grassdata/nc_spm_08_grass7/user1/ --exec' every time you want to run a module.
I think that more generally, unless a feature really causes trouble, it is safer to just leave it instead of trying to remove it for reasons of "code cleanliness" or aesthetics. Or said more simply: if it's not clearly broken, don't fix it.
GRASS GIS is so old that many different use forms have developed over the decades and it would be very difficult to know about all of them. And even though many new users (and sometimes developers) approach GRASS GIS as a monolothic GUI application, many older users use it in the form it was conceived in, i.e. a collection of command line tools that integrate into the *nix environment. Please don't make life harder for those.
Moritz