[GRASS-dev] mediawiki: recorded desktop sessions

Hi all,

I would like to allow uploading recorded desktop sessions to our
Mediawiki as embedded files in wiki pages.

I found recordMyDesktop [1] as a good choice for recording sessions.
This software produces OGV file [2].

At this point I have problem to find suitable mediawiki extension
which would enable embed OGV file into wiki pages. I found
TimedMediaHandler [3], see demo page [4] which is quite working.
Unfortunately it requires Mediawiki version 1.17. We are using stable
1.16. Would be acceptable for you to switch to 1.17 (well, wikipedia
ignores stable versions without any problems [5]). Or could you
suggest at this point another solution? Any experience with that?

Thanks in advance, Martin

[1] http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogv
[3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler
[4] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/Main_Page
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version

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Martin Landa <landa.martin gmail.com> * http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa

On 04/25/2011 03:25 AM, Martin Landa wrote:

Hi all,

I would like to allow uploading recorded desktop sessions to our
Mediawiki as embedded files in wiki pages.

I found recordMyDesktop [1] as a good choice for recording sessions.
This software produces OGV file [2].

At this point I have problem to find suitable mediawiki extension
which would enable embed OGV file into wiki pages. I found
TimedMediaHandler [3], see demo page [4] which is quite working.
Unfortunately it requires Mediawiki version 1.17. We are using stable
1.16. Would be acceptable for you to switch to 1.17 (well, wikipedia
ignores stable versions without any problems [5]). Or could you
suggest at this point another solution? Any experience with that?

Thanks in advance, Martin

[1] http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/about.php
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogv
[3] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TimedMediaHandler
[4] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/Main_Page
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version

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Martin Landa <landa.martin gmail.com> * http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa

Uploading videos can be problematic in all sorts of ways. My suggestion
is to take advantage of 3rd party video hosting options (ex: vimeo) and
then using their embed methods to include them in pages.

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EmbedVideo

Enjoy,
Alex

Hi,

2011/4/25 Alex Mandel <tech_dev@wildintellect.com>:

Uploading videos can be problematic in all sorts of ways. My suggestion
is to take advantage of 3rd party video hosting options (ex: vimeo) and
then using their embed methods to include them in pages.

well, you are right. Anyway the major drawback of using 3rd party
video hosts is that we will loose possibility to control/backup such
video files. If such hosting service remains unavailable we will lose
all videos, links to the video files became broken on our wiki.
Moreover the user will need to create his/her account on such video
hosting service.

Martin

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Martin Landa <landa.martin gmail.com> * http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/~landa

Martin wrote:

well, you are right. Anyway the major drawback of using 3rd
party video hosts is that we will loose possibility to
control/backup such video files. If such hosting service
remains unavailable we will lose all videos, links to the
video files became broken on our wiki.

I'd expect the likes of youtube to have better uptime, disk
space, & bandwidth than us :slight_smile:

Moreover the user will need to create his/her account on
such video hosting service.

a small cost? does simply having a gmail account allow you to
upload to youtube or picasa*, or is another acc't req'd for that?

[*] then you can have both images and movies in your tutorial,
imagine expanding Lorenzo's getting started guide with a
few movies in between slides.
  http://grass.bologna.enea.it/tutorial/

It's worth mentioning that some previous GRASS tutorial
screencasts have used flash video format,
  http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material#Video
  http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Movies#Q:_How_to_create_a_screencast_.28for_video_tutorials_etc.29.3F

I have no big opinion on the matter, but I wonder how Ogv (ogg
theora [+ vorbis]) stacks up against WebM [+ vorbis] for this
sort of thing? I guess you can upload WebM to youtube directly?

Hamish

Youtube makes a ton of sense. Why reinvent the wheel? Just let Youtube take care of it for you, and embed Youtube videos on appropriate Mediawiki pages.

Aren

On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Hamish <hamish_b@yahoo.com> wrote:

Martin wrote:

well, you are right. Anyway the major drawback of using 3rd
party video hosts is that we will loose possibility to
control/backup such video files. If such hosting service
remains unavailable we will lose all videos, links to the
video files became broken on our wiki.

I’d expect the likes of youtube to have better uptime, disk
space, & bandwidth than us :slight_smile:

Moreover the user will need to create his/her account on
such video hosting service.

a small cost? does simply having a gmail account allow you to
upload to youtube or picasa*, or is another acc’t req’d for that?

[*] then you can have both images and movies in your tutorial,
imagine expanding Lorenzo’s getting started guide with a
few movies in between slides.
http://grass.bologna.enea.it/tutorial/

It’s worth mentioning that some previous GRASS tutorial
screencasts have used flash video format,
http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material#Video
http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Movies#Q:How_to_create_a_screencast.28for_video_tutorials_etc.29.3F

I have no big opinion on the matter, but I wonder how Ogv (ogg
theora [+ vorbis]) stacks up against WebM [+ vorbis] for this
sort of thing? I guess you can upload WebM to youtube directly?

Hamish


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