[GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

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1

Hi all,

I think that there's a small *issue* with the new icons in Windows: I don't
know how is the story on Vista (it seems it's becoming to be a problem
developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests...), but on XP icons
must come as multiple icons to do a *good job*; on Linux that's not a
problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn't resample them (and that
matters if they need to be displayed in a size different from the original).
GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px size.

I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16, 24, 32
and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even at 32px size,
seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the originals. I attached
an example that shows how icons appear on windows at 32px size (the most
used, along with 16px size): on the left the original, on the right the
modified version (I resized the original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and 48px
images and saved all as multiple icon).

Best regards,

Marco

(attachments)

win-icons.PNG

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Marco Pasetti wrote:

I think that there's a small *issue* with the new icons in Windows: I
don't
know how is the story on Vista (it seems it's becoming to be a problem
developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests...), but on XP
icons
must come as multiple icons to do a *good job*; on Linux that's not a
problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn't resample them (and that
matters if they need to be displayed in a size different from the
original).
GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px
size.

I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16,
24, 32 and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even
at 32px size,
seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the originals. I
attached an example that shows how icons appear on windows at 32px
size (the most
used, along with 16px size): on the left the original, on the right the
modified version (I resized the original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and
48px images and saved all as multiple icon).

AFAIK lib/init/grass.ico is Windows specific, so Windows-ize it as
needed.
ISTR that Windows's .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Hamish

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Hi Hamish,

ISTR that Windows's .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same

file, yes?

Yes, right!
In the image I posted, the icon on the right is *multiple* icon, containig 4
icons: 16,24,36 and 48 px

Marco

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Hamish [mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com]
Inviato: lunedì 21 aprile 2008 23.44
A: Marco Pasetti; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Marco Pasetti wrote:

I think that there's a small *issue* with the new icons in Windows: I
don't know how is the story on Vista (it seems it's becoming to be a
problem developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests...),
but on XP icons must come as multiple icons to do a *good job*; on
Linux that's not a problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn't
resample them (and that matters if they need to be displayed in a size
different from the original).
GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px
size.

I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16,
24, 32 and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even
at 32px size, seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the
originals. I attached an example that shows how icons appear on
windows at 32px size (the most used, along with 16px size): on the
left the original, on the right the modified version (I resized the
original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and 48px images and saved all as
multiple icon).

AFAIK lib/init/grass.ico is Windows specific, so Windows-ize it as needed.
ISTR that Windows's .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Hamish

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Hi all,

if you want (and if you consider that appropriate) I could prepare multiple icons for windows, with the following format: 16,24,36,48 and 64 px
waiting for reply… :wink:

Regards,

Marco

Da: grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Marco Pasetti
Inviato: mar 22/04/2008 1.17
A: ‘Hamish’; ‘GRASS Developer Mailing List’
Oggetto: R: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi Hamish,

ISTR that Windows’s .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Yes, right!
In the image I posted, the icon on the right is multiple icon, containig 4
icons: 16,24,36 and 48 px

Marco

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Hamish [mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com]
Inviato: lunedì 21 aprile 2008 23.44
A: Marco Pasetti; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Marco Pasetti wrote:

I think that there’s a small issue with the new icons in Windows: I
don’t know how is the story on Vista (it seems it’s becoming to be a
problem developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests…),
but on XP icons must come as multiple icons to do a good job; on
Linux that’s not a problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn’t
resample them (and that matters if they need to be displayed in a size
different from the original).
GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px
size.

I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16,
24, 32 and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even
at 32px size, seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the
originals. I attached an example that shows how icons appear on
windows at 32px size (the most used, along with 16px size): on the
left the original, on the right the modified version (I resized the
original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and 48px images and saved all as
multiple icon).

AFAIK lib/init/grass.ico is Windows specific, so Windows-ize it as needed.
ISTR that Windows’s .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Hamish

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Hi,

2008/4/23, marco.pasetti@alice.it <marco.pasetti@alice.it>:

if you want (and if you consider that appropriate) I could prepare multiple
icons for windows, with the following format: 16,24,36,48 and 64 px
waiting for reply... :wink:

multiple sizes within the same icon file would be ok.

Martin

Regards,

Marco

________________________________
Da: grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Marco
Pasetti
Inviato: mar 22/04/2008 1.17
A: 'Hamish'; 'GRASS Developer Mailing List'
Oggetto: R: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi Hamish,

>ISTR that Windows's .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Yes, right!
In the image I posted, the icon on the right is *multiple* icon, containig 4
icons: 16,24,36 and 48 px

Marco

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Hamish [mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com]
Inviato: lunedì 21 aprile 2008 23.44
A: Marco Pasetti; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Marco Pasetti wrote:
> I think that there's a small *issue* with the new icons in Windows: I
> don't know how is the story on Vista (it seems it's becoming to be a
> problem developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests...),
> but on XP icons must come as multiple icons to do a *good job*; on
> Linux that's not a problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn't
> resample them (and that matters if they need to be displayed in a size
> different from the original).
> GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px
> size.
>
> I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16,
> 24, 32 and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even
> at 32px size, seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the
> originals. I attached an example that shows how icons appear on
> windows at 32px size (the most used, along with 16px size): on the
> left the original, on the right the modified version (I resized the
> original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and 48px images and saved all as
> multiple icon).

AFAIK lib/init/grass.ico is Windows specific, so Windows-ize it as needed.
ISTR that Windows's .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Hamish

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Hi Martin,

could you give me the original images, please? When I extract them from the windows icons I have a significant quality reduction. The format doesn’t care, I can manage every image format.
Thanks,

Marco

PS: did you received my mail about wxPython location wizard?

Da: Martin Landa [mailto:landa.martin@gmail.com]
Inviato: mer 23/04/2008 12.03
A: marco.pasetti@alice.it
Cc: Hamish; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi,

2008/4/23, marco.pasetti@alice.it marco.pasetti@alice.it:

if you want (and if you consider that appropriate) I could prepare multiple
icons for windows, with the following format: 16,24,36,48 and 64 px
waiting for reply… :wink:

multiple sizes within the same icon file would be ok.

Martin

Regards,

Marco

Da: grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Marco
Pasetti
Inviato: mar 22/04/2008 1.17
A: ‘Hamish’; ‘GRASS Developer Mailing List’
Oggetto: R: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi Hamish,

ISTR that Windows’s .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Yes, right!
In the image I posted, the icon on the right is multiple icon, containig 4
icons: 16,24,36 and 48 px

Marco

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Hamish [mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com]
Inviato: lunedì 21 aprile 2008 23.44
A: Marco Pasetti; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Marco Pasetti wrote:

I think that there’s a small issue with the new icons in Windows: I
don’t know how is the story on Vista (it seems it’s becoming to be a
problem developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests…),
but on XP icons must come as multiple icons to do a good job; on
Linux that’s not a problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn’t
resample them (and that matters if they need to be displayed in a size
different from the original).
GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px
size.

I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16,
24, 32 and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even
at 32px size, seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the
originals. I attached an example that shows how icons appear on
windows at 32px size (the most used, along with 16px size): on the
left the original, on the right the modified version (I resized the
original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and 48px images and saved all as
multiple icon).

AFAIK lib/init/grass.ico is Windows specific, so Windows-ize it as needed.
ISTR that Windows’s .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Hamish

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Marco:

could you give me the original images, please? When I extract them from
the windows icons I have a significant quality reduction. The format
doesn't care, I can manage every image format.

eps, svg, more:
  http://grass.osgeo.org/download/logograms.php

Hamish

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Hi,

2008/4/23, marco.pasetti@alice.it <marco.pasetti@alice.it>:

Hi Martin,

could you give me the original images, please? When I extract them from the
windows icons I have a significant quality reduction. The format doesn't
care, I can manage every image format.

ico-files (64px) from svn are not enough?

Martin

Thanks,

Marco

PS: did you received my mail about wxPython location wizard?

________________________________
Da: Martin Landa [mailto:landa.martin@gmail.com]
Inviato: mer 23/04/2008 12.03
A: marco.pasetti@alice.it
Cc: Hamish; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi,

2008/4/23, marco.pasetti@alice.it <marco.pasetti@alice.it>:
> if you want (and if you consider that appropriate) I could prepare
multiple
> icons for windows, with the following format: 16,24,36,48 and 64 px
> waiting for reply... :wink:

multiple sizes within the same icon file would be ok.

Martin

>
> Regards,
>
> Marco
>
> ________________________________
> Da: grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Marco
> Pasetti
> Inviato: mar 22/04/2008 1.17
> A: 'Hamish'; 'GRASS Developer Mailing List'
> Oggetto: R: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Hamish,
>
> >ISTR that Windows's .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
> file, yes?
>
> Yes, right!
> In the image I posted, the icon on the right is *multiple* icon, containig
4
> icons: 16,24,36 and 48 px
>
> Marco
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: Hamish [mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com]
> Inviato: lunedì 21 aprile 2008 23.44
> A: Marco Pasetti; GRASS Developer Mailing List
> Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows
>
>
> Marco Pasetti wrote:
> > I think that there's a small *issue* with the new icons in Windows: I
> > don't know how is the story on Vista (it seems it's becoming to be a
> > problem developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests...),
> > but on XP icons must come as multiple icons to do a *good job*; on
> > Linux that's not a problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn't
> > resample them (and that matters if they need to be displayed in a size
> > different from the original).
> > GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px
> > size.
> >
> > I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16,
> > 24, 32 and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even
> > at 32px size, seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the
> > originals. I attached an example that shows how icons appear on
> > windows at 32px size (the most used, along with 16px size): on the
> > left the original, on the right the modified version (I resized the
> > original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and 48px images and saved all as
> > multiple icon).
>
>
> AFAIK lib/init/grass.ico is Windows specific, so Windows-ize it as needed.
> ISTR that Windows's .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
> file, yes?
>
>
> Hamish
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Martin and Hamish,

ico-files (64px) from svn are not enough?

sorry, but not. When extracted from ico file they present a significant quality reduction. To do a good job I need the original files. The image quality is very important, because when I reduce the original 64px size to lower sizes I need the best resolution as possible (that is the original one).

eps, svg, more:

I need not only the offcial GRASS logo, but also the images with the SQL text, the gear and the world image…

Thanks,

Marco

Da: Martin Landa [mailto:landa.martin@gmail.com]
Inviato: mer 23/04/2008 12.26
A: marco.pasetti@alice.it
Cc: Hamish; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: R: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi,

2008/4/23, marco.pasetti@alice.it marco.pasetti@alice.it:

Hi Martin,

could you give me the original images, please? When I extract them from the
windows icons I have a significant quality reduction. The format doesn’t
care, I can manage every image format.

ico-files (64px) from svn are not enough?

Martin

Thanks,

Marco

PS: did you received my mail about wxPython location wizard?

Da: Martin Landa [mailto:landa.martin@gmail.com]
Inviato: mer 23/04/2008 12.03
A: marco.pasetti@alice.it
Cc: Hamish; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi,

2008/4/23, marco.pasetti@alice.it marco.pasetti@alice.it:

if you want (and if you consider that appropriate) I could prepare
multiple
icons for windows, with the following format: 16,24,36,48 and 64 px
waiting for reply… :wink:

multiple sizes within the same icon file would be ok.

Martin

Regards,

Marco

Da: grass-dev-bounces@lists.osgeo.org per conto di Marco
Pasetti
Inviato: mar 22/04/2008 1.17
A: ‘Hamish’; ‘GRASS Developer Mailing List’
Oggetto: R: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Hi Hamish,

ISTR that Windows’s .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Yes, right!
In the image I posted, the icon on the right is multiple icon, containig
4
icons: 16,24,36 and 48 px

Marco

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: Hamish [mailto:hamish_b@yahoo.com]
Inviato: lunedì 21 aprile 2008 23.44
A: Marco Pasetti; GRASS Developer Mailing List
Oggetto: Re: [GRASS-dev] New GRASS Icons and Windows

Marco Pasetti wrote:

I think that there’s a small issue with the new icons in Windows: I
don’t know how is the story on Vista (it seems it’s becoming to be a
problem developing on Windows and not having Vista to do tests…),
but on XP icons must come as multiple icons to do a good job; on
Linux that’s not a problem, but XP just resizes icons and doesn’t
resample them (and that matters if they need to be displayed in a size
different from the original).
GRASS icons are in 64px size, while windows commonly uses 16 and 32px
size.

I usually make icons in multiple format with the following sizes: 16,
24, 32 and 48 px. Using only the 64px size the icons on windows, even
at 32px size, seem less definite and, surely, not beautiful as the
originals. I attached an example that shows how icons appear on
windows at 32px size (the most used, along with 16px size): on the
left the original, on the right the modified version (I resized the
original 64px icon to 16,24,32, and 48px images and saved all as
multiple icon).

AFAIK lib/init/grass.ico is Windows specific, so Windows-ize it as needed.
ISTR that Windows’s .ico files could store multiple sizes within the same
file, yes?

Hamish

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