[GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

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Vincent,

Here is an extract of my post, replying to Yann Chemin suggestion for a replacement for the Medieval central European map that started this thread. I mentioned 2 historical maps and gave example links. I also like the idea of a cool map created with GRASS. I’m generally open if it is good design and conveys a powerful message about GRASS.

Michael

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Since GRASS is a global project, how about one of the first truly global like Mercator’s of 1569 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cartography#/image/File:Mercator_1569.png) or Ortelius’ of 1570 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cartography#/image/File:OrteliusWorldMap1570.jpg)?

Better images than these from Wikipedia probably exist.

With such a map, we could have a slightly different message on the splash screen too. Maybe something like

GRASS. Bringing advanced geospatial technologies to the world.

OR

GRASS. Advanced geospatial technology for everyone.

C. Michael Barton
Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-2402
USA

voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC)
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On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:16 PM, grass-dev-request@lists.osgeo.org wrote:

From: Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr>

To: grass-dev <grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org>

Date: January 21, 2015 at 1:47:42 PM MST

Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Hi,
thanks to all those who sent feedback on my strictly cosmetic contrib’.
Nikos & Luca: sorry for the flashy green tone, I’m daltonic…
Markus and Michael: do you think of a particular historical map ? would
a partial view on the map do the job ?

Well, to be continued then…

On the other hand of that surprisingly branchy thread: myself teaching
GRASS to students too, I deplore that many pretended GIS-aware students
(having skills with end-user oriented software) at the end of the day
show very poor knowledge in geodetics, projection systems, etc. Starting
with GRASS forces them to go back to basics: the quite unusual starting
process associated with the location/projection selector to my mind
is /very/ helpful !

Good night,
V.

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Nice maps, thank you. All that remains is to find a strong idea and some
spare time to achieve it.
V.

Le jeudi 22 janvier 2015 à 00:14 +0000, Michael Barton a écrit :

Vincent,

Here is an extract of my post, replying to Yann Chemin suggestion for
a replacement for the Medieval central European map that started this
thread. I mentioned 2 historical maps and gave example links. I also
like the idea of a cool map created with GRASS. I’m generally open if
it is good design and conveys a powerful message about GRASS.

Michael

======== cut here ==========

Since GRASS is a global project, how about one of the first truly
global like Mercator's of 1569
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cartography#/image/File:Mercator_1569.png) or Ortelius' of 1570 (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cartography#/image/File:OrteliusWorldMap1570.jpg)?

Better images than these from Wikipedia probably exist.

With such a map, we could have a slightly different message on the
splash screen too. Maybe something like

GRASS. Bringing advanced geospatial technologies to the world.

OR

GRASS. Advanced geospatial technology for everyone.

______________________________
C. Michael Barton
Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-2402
USA

voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC)
fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC)
www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu
http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:16 PM, grass-dev-request@lists.osgeo.org
> wrote:
>
> From: Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr>
>
> To: grass-dev <grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org>
>
> Date: January 21, 2015 at 1:47:42 PM MST
>
> Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?
>
>
>
> Hi,
> thanks to all those who sent feedback on my strictly cosmetic
> contrib'.
> Nikos & Luca: sorry for the flashy green tone, I'm daltonic...
> Markus and Michael: do you think of a particular historical map ?
> would
> a partial view on the map do the job ?
>
> Well, to be continued then...
>
> On the other hand of that surprisingly branchy thread: myself
> teaching
> GRASS to students too, I deplore that many pretended GIS-aware
> students
> (having skills with end-user oriented software) at the end of the
> day
> show very poor knowledge in geodetics, projection systems, etc.
> Starting
> with GRASS forces them to go back to basics: the quite unusual
> starting
> process associated with the location/projection selector to my mind
> is /very/ helpful !
>
> Good night,
> V.
>

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Dear Michael,

while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase GRASS' capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas GRASS can do stuff?

Why not have a splash that is GRASS' very unique identity? What it is, what it can do.

Nikos

On 22.01.2015 02:14, Michael Barton wrote:

Vincent,

Here is an extract of my post, replying to Yann Chemin suggestion for
a replacement for the Medieval central European map that started this
thread. I mentioned 2 historical maps and gave example links. I also
like the idea of a cool map created with GRASS. I’m generally open if
it is good design and conveys a powerful message about GRASS.

Michael

======== cut here ==========

Since GRASS is a global project, how about one of the first truly
global like Mercator's of 1569

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cartography#/image/File:Mercator_1569.png)
or Ortelius' of 1570

(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cartography#/image/File:OrteliusWorldMap1570.jpg)?

Better images than these from Wikipedia probably exist.

With such a map, we could have a slightly different message on the
splash screen too. Maybe something like

GRASS. Bringing advanced geospatial technologies to the world.

OR

GRASS. Advanced geospatial technology for everyone.

______________________________
C. Michael Barton
Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Head, Graduate Faculty in Complex Adaptive Systems Science
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-2402
USA

voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-965-8130/727-9746 (CSDC)
fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC)
www: http://csdc.asu.edu, http://shesc.asu.edu
http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton

On Jan 21, 2015, at 3:16 PM,

grass-dev-request@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:grass-dev-request@lists.osgeo.org>
wrote:

From: Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr<mailto:bain@toraval.fr>>
To: grass-dev <grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org>>
Date: January 21, 2015 at 1:47:42 PM MST
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] New splash screen for GRASS GIS 7?

Hi,
thanks to all those who sent feedback on my strictly cosmetic contrib'.
Nikos & Luca: sorry for the flashy green tone, I'm daltonic...
Markus and Michael: do you think of a particular historical map ? would
a partial view on the map do the job ?

Well, to be continued then...

On the other hand of that surprisingly branchy thread: myself teaching
GRASS to students too, I deplore that many pretended GIS-aware students
(having skills with end-user oriented software) at the end of the day
show very poor knowledge in geodetics, projection systems, etc. Starting
with GRASS forces them to go back to basics: the quite unusual starting
process associated with the location/projection selector to my mind
is /very/ helpful !

Good night,
V.

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nikos Alexandris
<nik@nikosalexandris.net> wrote:

Dear Michael,

while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase
GRASS' capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas
GRASS can do stuff?

Why not have a splash that is GRASS' very unique identity? What it is, what
it can do.

Yes, perhaps it could be an image in which an old map is warped into
something volumetric? So, from old to new?

Markus

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nikos Alexandris
<nik@nikosalexandris.net> wrote:
> Dear Michael,
>
> while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase
> GRASS' capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas
> GRASS can do stuff?
>
> Why not have a splash that is GRASS' very unique identity? What it is,
what
> it can do.

Yes, perhaps it could be an image in which an old map is warped into
something volumetric? So, from old to new?

If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you
want to move it to 7.0.1?

I would like to see Vincent's grass (with CC BY image and perhaps an easy
to get font) as splash and then the simple one with logo with white or
transparent backgroud but the smaller version I posted (where image height
is just the height of GRASS GIS and motto texts). Vincent, or some other
artists, are you able to work on that, or some other suggestions?

With the picture for startup screen, it would be nice to have an
alternative for cases where GRASS is on a machine with ISIS. I'm not sure
how many users it is targeting but we have this functionality now, so I
would keep it.

Vaclav

http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner.png?rev=52438
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner_isis.png?rev=57090

Markus
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Happy to help for ISIS banner modification,

we first need a main banner though.

What are the working options so far? Is there a consensus on something we can submit now as a first try?

I am happy to give a +1 to Vincent’s banner most people preferred (see earlier emails), and we modify it once or twice according to reactions on this discussion.

Comments anyone?

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On 23 January 2015 at 09:11, Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:25 AM, Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:10 AM, Nikos Alexandris
<nik@nikosalexandris.net> wrote:

Dear Michael,

while the maps linked below are very nice, why and how do they showcase
GRASS’ capabilities? Or is it about, only, to represent in which areas
GRASS can do stuff?

Why not have a splash that is GRASS’ very unique identity? What it is, what
it can do.

Yes, perhaps it could be an image in which an old map is warped into
something volumetric? So, from old to new?

If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you want to move it to 7.0.1?

I would like to see Vincent’s grass (with CC BY image and perhaps an easy to get font) as splash and then the simple one with logo with white or transparent backgroud but the smaller version I posted (where image height is just the height of GRASS GIS and motto texts). Vincent, or some other artists, are you able to work on that, or some other suggestions?

With the picture for startup screen, it would be nice to have an alternative for cases where GRASS is on a machine with ISIS. I’m not sure how many users it is targeting but we have this functionality now, so I would keep it.

Vaclav

http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner.png?rev=52438
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/browser/grass/trunk/gui/images/startup_banner_isis.png?rev=57090

Markus

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I've followed this discussion as closely as I could but might have
missed some steps..., so to put it in a nutshell:

* Right now, for the release, we propose:
   - a new splash with a "neutral/temporary/free" banner image (e.g.
grass);
   - for the welcome screen, I make up a simple banner according to
Vaclav's suggestion i.e. small GRASS logo+motto on transparent bg (or
white bg to handle dark windows desktop themes).

* Later on I can work on the historical map suggestion --or any other
idea.

I can do it between today and sunday.

        With the picture for startup screen, it would be nice to have
        an alternative for cases where GRASS is on a machine with
        ISIS.

What is ISIS ?

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On 23 January 2015 at 11:58, Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr> wrote:

I've followed this discussion as closely as I could but might have
missed some steps..., so to put it in a nutshell:

* Right now, for the release, we propose:
   - a new splash with a "neutral/temporary/free" banner image (e.g.
grass);
   - for the welcome screen, I make up a simple banner according to
Vaclav's suggestion i.e. small GRASS logo+motto on transparent bg (or
white bg to handle dark windows desktop themes).

* Later on I can work on the historical map suggestion --or any other
idea.

I can do it between today and sunday.

> With the picture for startup screen, it would be nice to have
> an alternative for cases where GRASS is on a machine with
> ISIS.

What is ISIS ?

ISIS [1] is a software from USGS that reads space mission data from the

PDS [2]
there is now a script to create menus from ISIS into the GRASS menu [3], to
use them together.
For more Planetary GRASS see [4]

[1] http://isis.astrogeology.usgs.gov/
[2] http://pds-geosciences.wustl.edu (other mirrors exist)
[3]
https://sites.google.com/site/geosnipets/Downhome/Topic2/creatinganisismenuentryingrass/mk_isis_menu.sh
[4] http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Planetary_mapping

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On Jan 23, 2015 4:41 AM, “Vaclav Petras” <wenzeslaus@gmail.com> wrote:

If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you want to move it to 7.0.1?

Definitely for 7.0.0.
A new major release must come with a new splash screen.

Thanks
Markus

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Hi,

2015-01-23 4:41 GMT+01:00 Vaclav Petras <wenzeslaus@gmail.com>:

Yes, perhaps it could be an image in which an old map is warped into
something volumetric? So, from old to new?

If we want this for the release, we should proceed with this. Or do you want
to move it to 7.0.1?

+1 Even hard freeze, this change is somehow important (from marketing
POV). So please go ahead, ideally before RC2.

[...]

Martin

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