Hi devs,
time to think about getting RC2 out:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass7Planning#Planningongoing
The todo list includes:
- #2409 - last call for options/flags/parameters consolidation
- ...
- Update Splash screen
- Simplify Welcome screen
To be backported:
- r64280, r64279, r64278, r64277 (mmetz)
- r64270 raster3d (wenzeslaus)
- r64226 --interface-description (glynn)
Markus
Hi,
2015-01-26 20:45 GMT+01:00 Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org>:
[...]
- r64226 --interface-description (glynn)
I took liberty to backported, the rest I would leave to the colleagues. Martin
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> wrote:
Hi devs,
time to think about getting RC2 out:
http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/Grass7Planning#Planningongoing
The todo list includes:
- #2409 - last call for options/flags/parameters consolidation
- ...
- Update Splash screen
- Simplify Welcome screenTo be backported:
- r64280, r64279, r64278, r64277 (mmetz)
Done in r64389-91.
Markus M
- r64270 raster3d (wenzeslaus)
- r64226 --interface-description (glynn)Markus
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Hi all,
2015-02-02 9:12 GMT+01:00 Markus Metz <markus.metz.giswork@gmail.com>:
To be backported:
- r64280, r64279, r64278, r64277 (mmetz)
Done in r64389-91.
thanks, the last issue for RC2 which I can see is the new startup
banner and splash screen. Any objections to backport r64455 and
r64447. Than we could hopefully move towards RC2 (it's ~20 days since
RC1 has been released).
Martin
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On 4 February 2015 at 10:03, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Hi all,
thanks, the last issue for RC2 which I can see is the new startup
banner and splash screen. Any objections to backport r64455 and
r64447. Than we could hopefully move towards RC2 (it's ~20 days since
RC1 has been released).
sorry but should we vote or not?
Maybe I lost some emails, but I understood that we should vote to
choose banner and splash screen...
Martin
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Hi Luca,
2015-02-04 10:10 GMT+01:00 Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com>:
sorry but should we vote or not?
Maybe I lost some emails, but I understood that we should vote to
choose banner and splash screen...
we don't have any clear procedure for voting. So I would leave
decision on Markus as the project leader. Otherwise GRASS 7 will be
out probably in the next year 
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On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 February 2015 at 10:03, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Hi all,
thanks, the last issue for RC2 which I can see is the new startup
banner and splash screen. Any objections to backport r64455 and
r64447. Than we could hopefully move towards RC2 (it's ~20 days since
RC1 has been released).sorry but should we vote or not?
Maybe I lost some emails, but I understood that we should vote to
choose banner and splash screen...
I don't think that we should start a poll now (voting is happening on
PSC, for other cases we have no voting infrastructure in place).
Setting up a proper poll system is not that easy and requires time
(who can participate, keep poll open for some week(s) etc).
At time it is for RC2 only anyway which we need to get out asap.
Is that acceptable?
Markus
+1 to go ahead, devs will see the difference on their next built. They can react if needed we decide to change before final.
I am happy about the new splash and the new stylish banner.
PS: I just updated ISIS-GRASS banner too.
On 4 February 2015 at 15:11, Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4 February 2015 at 10:03, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Hi all,
thanks, the last issue for RC2 which I can see is the new startup
banner and splash screen. Any objections to backport r64455 and
r64447. Than we could hopefully move towards RC2 (it’s ~20 days since
RC1 has been released).sorry but should we vote or not?
Maybe I lost some emails, but I understood that we should vote to
choose banner and splash screen…I don’t think that we should start a poll now (voting is happening on
PSC, for other cases we have no voting infrastructure in place).
Setting up a proper poll system is not that easy and requires time
(who can participate, keep poll open for some week(s) etc).At time it is for RC2 only anyway which we need to get out asap.
Is that acceptable?
Markus
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On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> wrote:
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Luca Delucchi <lucadeluge@gmail.com>
wrote:
> On 4 February 2015 at 10:03, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>
> Hi all,
>
>>
>> thanks, the last issue for RC2 which I can see is the new startup
>> banner and splash screen. Any objections to backport r64455 and
>> r64447. Than we could hopefully move towards RC2 (it's ~20 days since
>> RC1 has been released).
>>
>
> sorry but should we vote or not?
> Maybe I lost some emails, but I understood that we should vote to
> choose banner and splash screen...I don't think that we should start a poll now (voting is happening on
PSC, for other cases we have no voting infrastructure in place).
Setting up a proper poll system is not that easy and requires time
(who can participate, keep poll open for some week(s) etc).
I don't think we have to keep it open for weeks, 3 days is enough.
At time it is for RC2 only anyway which we need to get out asap.
I am just afraid the banner and the splash screen will stay that way... Did
you try to get any feedback on the new splash screen on FOSSDEM? The
feedback on the grassy world splash screen I get here is negative...
Is that acceptable?
Yes, it's just a splash screen, but we have to get back to it.
Anna
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Hi,
prior to plan or not voting, maybe everyone could give his/her opinions
on the talk page Martin set up last friday:
http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Identity
(I made an update of the proposal this morning)
Thanks,
Vincent.
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:18 AM, Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr> wrote:
Hi,
prior to plan or not voting, maybe everyone could give his/her opinions
on the talk page Martin set up last friday:http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Identity
(I made an update of the proposal this morning)
what an amazing range of proposals, is really difficult to choose. Thank you for your work !
Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut.
Is there particular reason why “grass” is in bold and “gis” not? I would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the diversity.
Thank you again!
madi
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Hello Madi,
[moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous
message on the wrong topic]
Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be
slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut.
You are right, these vignettes are quick&dirty layouts, just there to
help people choose between different styles.
Is there particular reason why "grass" is in bold and "gis" not? I
would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a
different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the
diversity.
Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually
multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a
same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software.
I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the "serious" image of
this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but
still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with
single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text.
Thanks for participating,
Vincent
In addition to latest changes in
http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identity
you can find several banner images.Images are all 618x150 PNG8 files.
Anna : each is available with/without alpha channel, still in 8-bit depth.
Yours,
Vincent.
Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 12:20 +0100, Vincent Bain a écrit :
Hello Madi,
[moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous
message on the wrong topic]> Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be
> slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut.You are right, these vignettes are quick&dirty layouts, just there to
help people choose between different styles.> Is there particular reason why "grass" is in bold and "gis" not? I
> would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a
> different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the
> diversity.Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually
multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a
same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software.I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the "serious" image of
this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but
still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with
single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text.Thanks for participating,
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On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 9:42 AM, Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr> wrote:
Hi Vaclav,
do you know which width will finally be the welcome window ?
Markus asked me to upload to the ML a set of banners, and it would be
nice that it fits the window's dimensions.It will never fit perfectly. We might be able to deal with some
border/padding issues but the width may differ for platforms, translations
and fonts. The window may often get the same size but it is not guaranteed
(and it should not be, it should rather respect the system settings,
consider for example a high-res screen and system font set to 250% of usual
size).
626px is the current window width according to wx widget inspector on my
computer. It is hard to say if the image should be few pixels smaller.
This might be a reason to prefer single color background (we can then make
it transparent or color the widget background to the same color as image to
get the similar effect but with our color, this might be more challenging,
however).
Vaclav
Right now I did a try at 618x150px, 8 bit depth PNG.
Thnx,
Vincent.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr> wrote:
In addition to latest changes in
http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identityyou can find several banner images.Images are all 618x150 PNG8 files.
Anna : each is available with/without alpha channel, still in 8-bit depth.
Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or
transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous
when changing the width of the start up window.
Anna
Yours,
Vincent.Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 12:20 +0100, Vincent Bain a écrit :
> Hello Madi,
> [moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous
> message on the wrong topic]
>
> > Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be
> > slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut.
>
> You are right, these vignettes are quick&dirty layouts, just there to
> help people choose between different styles.
>
> > Is there particular reason why "grass" is in bold and "gis" not? I
> > would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a
> > different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the
> > diversity.
>
> Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually
> multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a
> same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software.
>
> I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the "serious" image of
> this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but
> still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with
> single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text.
>
> Thanks for participating,
> Vincent
>
>
>
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Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 11:18 -0500, Anna Petrášová a écrit :
which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up
window
My knowledge of wxpython is nearly nul. Do you consider a solution based
on two separate transparent images, packing respectively the logo
flushleftt and the text flushright in a wxframe ?
(forget it if I'm completely mistaken...)
V.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Anna Petrášová <kratochanna@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr> wrote:
In addition to latest changes in
http://grasswiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Identityyou can find several banner images.Images are all 618x150 PNG8 files.
Anna : each is available with/without alpha channel, still in 8-bit depth.
Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or
transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous
when changing the width of the start up window.
I like the transparent with the capital letters. 
Doug
Anna
Yours,
Vincent.Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 12:20 +0100, Vincent Bain a écrit :
> Hello Madi,
> [moved the reply back to the correct thread, I posted the previous
> message on the wrong topic]
>
> > Perhaps in D1 the grass symbol and the writing perhaps should be
> > slightly moved to right, because the symbol appears cut.
>
> You are right, these vignettes are quick&dirty layouts, just there to
> help people choose between different styles.
>
> > Is there particular reason why "grass" is in bold and "gis" not? I
> > would like it better to have the same rule for both words, because a
> > different style is already applied to the slogan, I would reduce the
> > diversity.
>
> Once again a matter of typographic trick; here we don't actually
> multiply fontfaces, we only play with various strokes weights from a
> same family. It is a way to slightly emphasise the name of the software.
>
> I guess many of you (so do I) really care about the "serious" image of
> this project: maybe I (or you) should propose a radically sober but
> still elegant splash screen, without any flourish, e.g. the A row with
> single fontface, single weight, green and black logo+text.
>
> Thanks for participating,
> Vincent
>
>
>
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On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Vincent Bain <bain@toraval.fr> wrote:
Le jeudi 05 février 2015 à 11:18 -0500, Anna Petrášová a écrit :
> which seems to be advantageous when changing the width of the start up
> windowMy knowledge of wxpython is nearly nul. Do you consider a solution based
on two separate transparent images, packing respectively the logo
flushleftt and the text flushright in a wxframe ?
I am not sure if I understand, the image will be horizontally centered on
the welcome screen, but the screen can be resized (either by user, or when
using different language), so the image will have then some space on both
sides. In case of transparent background, the border of the image won't be
so visible.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u4oip9iojivyo6j/AAC0r3S35cBuLNhYC7UPV0uNa?dl=0
(forget it if I'm completely mistaken...)
V.
Hi,
2015-02-05 17:18 GMT+01:00 Anna Petrášová <kratochanna@gmail.com>:
Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or
transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous when
changing the width of the start up window.
I have taken liberty to update startup banner to transparent one in r64480.
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On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
2015-02-05 17:18 GMT+01:00 Anna Petrášová <kratochanna@gmail.com>:
Thank you, do people like more the versions with the white background or
transparent? I like the transparent one, which seems to be advantageous when
changing the width of the start up window.I have taken liberty to update startup banner to transparent one in r64480.
Despite all the take this take that discussions and a potential extra
simplified startup it gets into good shape now for RC2.
Should we consider the backport of these changes?
Markus