[GRASS-dev] Re: grass-dev Digest, Vol 66, Issue 66

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On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, grass-dev-request@lists.osgeo.org wrote:

Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:20:17 +0200
From: Massimo Di Stefano <massimodisasha@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] Re: where to store GRASS settings: GISRC and
       wx settings
To: Margherita Di Leo <dileomargherita@gmail.com>
Cc: grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Message-ID: <9E9098FE-25C5-4B6A-AC29-2C751D3D5FBE@gmail.com>
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that's an other one ...

i'm using 6.5 for my daily job with really good satisfaction.

6.4 is out of date if compared with 6.5 and 7.0 is too much unstable beacouse of the gui (wx on osx is a pain)

--Massimo.

AFAICT, most of the bugs in 6.4.1 have been corrected in 6.4.2, and 6.4.2 also benefits from a number of updates/enhancements to the code. There is actually a pretty big difference between 6.4.1. and 6.4.2.

Have you tried the current 6.4.2 svn? If not, you can get it from my site for Snow Leopard at <http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton/files/grass_mac/OSX10.6-snowleopard/&gt;\. The "frameworks.txt" tells which of William's framworks are used in this. I've posted binaries for 6.4.2 svn, 6.5, and 7 compiled 28 August. So you can compare current versions.

While GRASS 7 was somewhat unstable for awhile (it IS a dev version), I am finding it very stable now. A lot of bugs have been fixed.

What is the problem you are having with wxGUI on the Mac? This is the default for 6.4.2 (though TclTk is still there for those who prefer it). It gets wonky if you install a 3rd party Python, but otherwise should be very stable in 6.4.2 and 7. If there are bugs, please report them.

Thanks
Michael
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I agree with Michael on this as well. I did not find any major issues with wxGUI on Mac ( I use it on mac every day,
both 6.4.1 and 7) and Martin just added zooming into drawn rectangle for setting up region interactively -
something that I still had to do using d.mon. There is always space for improvement but I find it very stable
and functional on Mac. But I am using only a small subset of GRASS functionality,
so Massimo if you have troubles with wxGUI, please report.

More serious issue with Mac is getting GRASS with wxGUI running on Lion,
I just got first student with new Mac running Lion and she is using MSWindows on Mac to run GRASS.
If anybody has any advice on running GRASS on Lion please let me know,

Helena

On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Michael Barton wrote:

On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, grass-dev-request@lists.osgeo.org wrote:

Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:20:17 +0200
From: Massimo Di Stefano <massimodisasha@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] Re: where to store GRASS settings: GISRC and
      wx settings
To: Margherita Di Leo <dileomargherita@gmail.com>
Cc: grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Message-ID: <9E9098FE-25C5-4B6A-AC29-2C751D3D5FBE@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

that's an other one ...

i'm using 6.5 for my daily job with really good satisfaction.

6.4 is out of date if compared with 6.5 and 7.0 is too much unstable beacouse of the gui (wx on osx is a pain)

--Massimo.

AFAICT, most of the bugs in 6.4.1 have been corrected in 6.4.2, and 6.4.2 also benefits from a number of updates/enhancements to the code. There is actually a pretty big difference between 6.4.1. and 6.4.2.

Have you tried the current 6.4.2 svn? If not, you can get it from my site for Snow Leopard at <http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton/files/grass_mac/OSX10.6-snowleopard/&gt;\. The "frameworks.txt" tells which of William's framworks are used in this. I've posted binaries for 6.4.2 svn, 6.5, and 7 compiled 28 August. So you can compare current versions.

While GRASS 7 was somewhat unstable for awhile (it IS a dev version), I am finding it very stable now. A lot of bugs have been fixed.

What is the problem you are having with wxGUI on the Mac? This is the default for 6.4.2 (though TclTk is still there for those who prefer it). It gets wonky if you install a 3rd party Python, but otherwise should be very stable in 6.4.2 and 7. If there are bugs, please report them.

Thanks
Michael
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Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-2402
USA

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Hi,

2011/8/31 Helena Mitasova <hmitaso@ncsu.edu>:

I agree with Michael on this as well. I did not find any major issues with wxGUI on Mac ( I use it on mac every day,
both 6.4.1 and 7) and Martin just added zooming into drawn rectangle for setting up region interactively -
something that I still had to do using d.mon. There is always space for improvement but I find it very stable

note that it's available in devbr6, not relbr64. I am not sure whether
to backport it to relbr64, it should probably go for 6.4.3, not 6.4.2.

Martin

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On Aug 31, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Martin Landa wrote:

Hi,

2011/8/31 Helena Mitasova <hmitaso@ncsu.edu>:

I agree with Michael on this as well. I did not find any major issues with wxGUI on Mac ( I use it on mac every day,
both 6.4.1 and 7) and Martin just added zooming into drawn rectangle for setting up region interactively -
something that I still had to do using d.mon. There is always space for improvement but I find it very stable

note that it's available in devbr6, not relbr64. I am not sure whether
to backport it to relbr64, it should probably go for 6.4.3, not 6.4.2.

I agree with that - it definitely needs more testing. This was to let people know that the functionality is there.

Helena

Martin

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2011/8/31 Helena Mitasova <hmitaso@ncsu.edu>:

I agree with Michael on this as well. I did not find any major issues with wxGUI on Mac ( I use it on mac every day,
both 6.4.1 and 7) and Martin just added zooming into drawn rectangle for setting up region interactively -
something that I still had to do using d.mon. There is always space for improvement but I find it very stable

note that it's available in devbr6, not relbr64. I am not sure whether
to backport it to relbr64, it should probably go for 6.4.3, not 6.4.2.

I agree with that - it definitely needs more testing. This was to let people know that the functionality is there.

Map Display statusbar -> Display mode -> uncheck "Align extent to display size"

Martin

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Hi All,

I'm on lion too,
but before lion my problem with wx and snow leopard was that i'm using python 64 bit (and wx is not ready yet)
The last time i tried to update my wx to 2.9.x to be able to have all running as 64bit i had lot of problems
so i switched to the old tcltk gui for a stable usage.

i'll provide as soon as possible all the issue i'm having running wxpython (using python.org) in 64 bit mode
on both snow leopard and lion.

--Massimo.
.
Il giorno 31/ago/2011, alle ore 22.01, Helena Mitasova ha scritto:

I agree with Michael on this as well. I did not find any major issues with wxGUI on Mac ( I use it on mac every day,
both 6.4.1 and 7) and Martin just added zooming into drawn rectangle for setting up region interactively -
something that I still had to do using d.mon. There is always space for improvement but I find it very stable
and functional on Mac. But I am using only a small subset of GRASS functionality,
so Massimo if you have troubles with wxGUI, please report.

More serious issue with Mac is getting GRASS with wxGUI running on Lion,
I just got first student with new Mac running Lion and she is using MSWindows on Mac to run GRASS.
If anybody has any advice on running GRASS on Lion please let me know,

Helena

On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Michael Barton wrote:

On Aug 31, 2011, at 12:59 PM, grass-dev-request@lists.osgeo.org wrote:

Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 11:20:17 +0200
From: Massimo Di Stefano <massimodisasha@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] Re: where to store GRASS settings: GISRC and
     wx settings
To: Margherita Di Leo <dileomargherita@gmail.com>
Cc: grass-dev@lists.osgeo.org
Message-ID: <9E9098FE-25C5-4B6A-AC29-2C751D3D5FBE@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

that's an other one ...

i'm using 6.5 for my daily job with really good satisfaction.

6.4 is out of date if compared with 6.5 and 7.0 is too much unstable beacouse of the gui (wx on osx is a pain)

--Massimo.

AFAICT, most of the bugs in 6.4.1 have been corrected in 6.4.2, and 6.4.2 also benefits from a number of updates/enhancements to the code. There is actually a pretty big difference between 6.4.1. and 6.4.2.

Have you tried the current 6.4.2 svn? If not, you can get it from my site for Snow Leopard at <http://www.public.asu.edu/~cmbarton/files/grass_mac/OSX10.6-snowleopard/&gt;\. The "frameworks.txt" tells which of William's framworks are used in this. I've posted binaries for 6.4.2 svn, 6.5, and 7 compiled 28 August. So you can compare current versions.

While GRASS 7 was somewhat unstable for awhile (it IS a dev version), I am finding it very stable now. A lot of bugs have been fixed.

What is the problem you are having with wxGUI on the Mac? This is the default for 6.4.2 (though TclTk is still there for those who prefer it). It gets wonky if you install a 3rd party Python, but otherwise should be very stable in 6.4.2 and 7. If there are bugs, please report them.

Thanks
Michael
______________________________
C. Michael Barton
Director, Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Professor of Anthropology, School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-2402
USA

voice: 480-965-6262 (SHESC), 480-727-9746 (CSDC)
fax: 480-965-7671(SHESC), 480-727-0709 (CSDC)
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From my tests, the problem is not 64bit wxpython, it's wxpython 2.9 Cocoa. The GUI crashes on startup for both 64bit and 32bit modes.

The 2.9 Cocoa build is an absolute must for Lion because (as I understand it) all the last deprecated Carbon APIs have been removed. wxpython 2.8 (Carbon) built for the python 2.6 on Snow *seems* to work on Lion, though there may be some hidden Carbon dependencies that won't cause trouble until they're used. And for some it crashes when quitting the GUI.

On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Massimo Di Stefano wrote:

Hi All,

I'm on lion too,
but before lion my problem with wx and snow leopard was that i'm using python 64 bit (and wx is not ready yet)
The last time i tried to update my wx to 2.9.x to be able to have all running as 64bit i had lot of problems
so i switched to the old tcltk gui for a stable usage.

i'll provide as soon as possible all the issue i'm having running wxpython (using python.org) in 64 bit mode
on both snow leopard and lion.

--Massimo.
.
Il giorno 31/ago/2011, alle ore 22.01, Helena Mitasova ha scritto:

More serious issue with Mac is getting GRASS with wxGUI running on Lion,
I just got first student with new Mac running Lion and she is using MSWindows on Mac to run GRASS.
If anybody has any advice on running GRASS on Lion please let me know,

Helena

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