[GRASS-dev] Soc - wxNviz proposal

Hi all,

probably it would be a good idea to continue in wxNviz [1] development
which started as Google SoC 2008 project [2]. Improved wxNviz should
completely replace TCL/TK-based Nviz in GRASS 7.0. The upcoming Soc
2010 is good occasion for that.

I wonder if there is a student who is interested to do the job. I
started working on wxNviz two years ago, the last year I participated
in the SoC program as a mentor. Some weeks ago I started thinking to
downgrade myself to be a student and to complete the unfinished job. I
know that student->mentor->student is acceptable for Google (but still
not "kosher" for me). So I would like to ask the community (you) first
if you agree that I submit the proposal. Please feel free to update
wiki page [3] and to add wanted features for fully-featured wxNviz (or
3D view wxGUI extension).

Cheers, Martin

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxNviz
[2] http://code.google.com/soc/2008/osgeo/appinfo.html?csaid=FB0A81AE65AEC356
[3] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:WxNviz#Proposal_for_Google_SoC_2010

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On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

probably it would be a good idea to continue in wxNviz [1] development
which started as Google SoC 2008 project [2]. Improved wxNviz should
completely replace TCL/TK-based Nviz in GRASS 7.0. The upcoming Soc
2010 is good occasion for that.

yes, it would be great to get wxNviz (somewhat) completed.

I wonder if there is a student who is interested to do the job. I
started working on wxNviz two years ago, the last year I participated
in the SoC program as a mentor. Some weeks ago I started thinking to
downgrade myself to be a student and to complete the unfinished job. I
know that student->mentor->student is acceptable for Google (but still
not "kosher" for me).

Since you are a PhD student, I don't see a problem here.

So I would like to ask the community (you) first
if you agree that I submit the proposal. Please feel free to update
wiki page [3] and to add wanted features for fully-featured wxNviz (or
3D view wxGUI extension).

Cheers, Martin

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxNviz
[2] http://code.google.com/soc/2008/osgeo/appinfo.html?csaid=FB0A81AE65AEC356
[3] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:WxNviz#Proposal_for_Google_SoC_2010

Especially the "New features" section there is promising - but of course the
completion of yet missing features is important, too.

Apparently nobody else speaks up to work on this, so please consider
to submit your proposal.

Markus

Martin wrote:

probably it would be a good idea to continue in wxNviz [1] development
which started as Google SoC 2008 project [2].

of course!

Improved wxNviz should completely replace TCL/TK-based Nviz in GRASS 7.0.

when the wx one is ready. I think it is slightly distracting for us to
think of them as in competition too much. they are passing the baton.

The upcoming Soc 2010 is good occasion for that.

absolutely.

I wonder if there is a student who is interested to do the job. I
started working on wxNviz two years ago, the last year I participated
in the SoC program as a mentor. Some weeks ago I started thinking to
downgrade myself to be a student and to complete the unfinished job. I
know that student->mentor->student is acceptable for Google (but still
not "kosher" for me). So I would like to ask the community (you) first
if you agree that I submit the proposal.

I see no problem or taint with you going back to student-mode. If anything
it will give you a better perspective on the process. The choice is open
to you. The one think you can not do is register to be a mentor for 2010
and then decide to be a student as well, I think that breaks Melange.

random food for thought:
One of the long-term goals of SoC is to bring new devels into projects.
You obviously do not tick that box, but I expect you would be 500-1000%
more productive than a random assignee who starts from zero, and the
chance of post-summer student retention might be only as high as 15-20%.
(I'm sure you wouldn't mind more wxPyGui experts around though :).

For my 2c the "add great code to FOSS projects" SoC goal probably outweighs
the gamble of gaining a new dev in this case. As there are other wxGUI
projects which a SoC student could be assigned to it does not make the
other goal impossible.

A question for all SoC post-grad students-
As PhD students do not really get any time off, would taking time out to
work on SoC be good or bad for you in the long term? Are your advisor(s)
supportive? Can the two run side by side? (e.g. I get a lot of small
side-tasks done while I wait for big model runs to complete. my little
rule is if the CPU monitor is not pegged at 100% I should not be working
on out-of-scope things until it is :wink:

?

Hamish

yes, Martin please submit the proposal.
I have added the point symbols to the list of missing features and wiki page

Helena

On Apr 1, 2010, at 2:17 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

probably it would be a good idea to continue in wxNviz [1] development
which started as Google SoC 2008 project [2]. Improved wxNviz should
completely replace TCL/TK-based Nviz in GRASS 7.0. The upcoming Soc
2010 is good occasion for that.

yes, it would be great to get wxNviz (somewhat) completed.

I wonder if there is a student who is interested to do the job. I
started working on wxNviz two years ago, the last year I participated
in the SoC program as a mentor. Some weeks ago I started thinking to
downgrade myself to be a student and to complete the unfinished job. I
know that student->mentor->student is acceptable for Google (but still
not "kosher" for me).

Since you are a PhD student, I don't see a problem here.

So I would like to ask the community (you) first
if you agree that I submit the proposal. Please feel free to update
wiki page [3] and to add wanted features for fully-featured wxNviz (or
3D view wxGUI extension).

Cheers, Martin

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxNviz
[2] http://code.google.com/soc/2008/osgeo/appinfo.html?csaid=FB0A81AE65AEC356
[3] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:WxNviz#Proposal_for_Google_SoC_2010

Especially the "New features" section there is promising - but of course the
completion of yet missing features is important, too.

Apparently nobody else speaks up to work on this, so please consider
to submit your proposal.

Markus
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Hi,

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:48, Martin Landa <landa.martin@gmail.com> wrote:

I wonder if there is a student who is interested to do the job. I
started working on wxNviz two years ago, the last year I participated
in the SoC program as a mentor. Some weeks ago I started thinking to
downgrade myself to be a student and to complete the unfinished job. I
know that student->mentor->student is acceptable for Google (but still
not "kosher" for me). So I would like to ask the community (you) first
if you agree that I submit the proposal. Please feel free to update
wiki page [3] and to add wanted features for fully-featured wxNviz (or
3D view wxGUI extension).

I think it's a great idea! However, as admin I hate to loose a good mentor. :wink:
On the other hand there seems to be strong support for you going
student, and a lot of good will come out of it, so I think it is a
good idea!

I'm also very supportive of this!

--Wolf

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/WxNviz
[2] http://code.google.com/soc/2008/osgeo/appinfo.html?csaid=FB0A81AE65AEC356
[3] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:WxNviz#Proposal_for_Google_SoC_2010

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Hi,

2010/4/2 Helena Mitasova <hmitaso@unity.ncsu.edu>:

yes, Martin please submit the proposal.
I have added the point symbols to the list of missing features and wiki page

OK, done. Proposal "wxNviz development for enhanced 3/4D visualization
and analysis" in progress.

Martin

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