[GRASS-dev] Website does not work with www for me

Howdie,

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the “Page not found” error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal? Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I should open an issue at [1] for?

Thank you,

Ondřej

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website

Hi Ondrej,

never tried that before and indeed it does not work when typing the www neither in firefox nor in Chrome. I’d say it is worth an issue, yes

Thanks
Vero

El jue., 13 ago. 2020 a las 23:50, Ondřej Pešek (<pesej.ondrek@gmail.com>) escribió:

Howdie,

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the “Page not found” error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal? Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I should open an issue at [1] for?

Thank you,

Ondřej

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website


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Hi,

Ondřej Pešek <pesej.ondrek@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:

Howdie,

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the “Page not found” error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal?

It’s expected as we don’t have a DNS record for that

Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I should open an issue at [1] for?

Thank you,

Ondřej

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website

Do we want that, too? I’d find it confusing, with and without www. But let’s hear opinions!

Markus


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On 2020-08-13 8:17 p.m., Markus Neteler wrote:

Hi,

Ondřej Pešek <pesej.ondrek@gmail.com <mailto:pesej.ondrek@gmail.com>> schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:

    Howdie,

    when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www
    (grass.osgeo.org <http://grass.osgeo.org>), I can load the page
    without a problem. However, when I want to try it with www
    (www.grass.osgeo.org <http://www.grass.osgeo.org>), I get the "Page
    not found" error message.

    Is it just me? Is it normal?

It's expected as we don't have a DNS record for that

    Is it internet mimicry? Is it something I should open an issue at
    [1] for?

    Thank you,
    Ondřej

    [1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website

Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But let's hear opinions!

Absolutely, a DNS record for www.grass.osgeo.org is still needed

-jeff

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pá 14. 8. 2020 v 1:17 odesílatel Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> napsal:

Ondřej Pešek <pesej.ondrek@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem. However, when I want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the “Page not found” error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal?

It’s expected as we don’t have a DNS record for that

Do we want that, too? I’d find it confusing, with and without www. But let’s hear opinions!

As so far more voices can be heard saying yes, I have opened an issue for that [1]. Feel free to tag the issue later with the wontfix label and close it, but at least there will be a record of that decision.

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/issues/219

On 8/14/20 1:17 AM, Markus Neteler wrote:

Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But
let's hear opinions!

I wouldn't bother, there is no need for www. www is appropriate for the
toplevel domain, not for the grass subdomain.

But if you do add support for www, make it redirect to grass.osgeo.org
to make it clear that that is the canonical URL, instead of adding www
as an alias.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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piektd., 2020. g. 14. aug., plkst. 02:17 — lietotājs Markus Neteler
(<neteler@osgeo.org>) rakstīja:

Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But let's hear opinions!

Markus

I would vote for setting up a wildcard DNS entry (*.grass.osgeo.org) +
redirect to grass.osgeo.org thus
any.domain.that.ends.with.grass.osgeo.org is a valid redirect to GRASS
main page. Subdomains with explicit DNS records are not affected by
wildcard entry.

Māris.

On 8/14/20 4:28 PM, Maris Nartiss wrote:

piektd., 2020. g. 14. aug., plkst. 02:17 — lietotājs Markus Neteler
(<neteler@osgeo.org>) rakstīja:

Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But let's hear opinions!

Markus

I would vote for setting up a wildcard DNS entry (*.grass.osgeo.org) +
redirect to grass.osgeo.org thus
any.domain.that.ends.with.grass.osgeo.org is a valid redirect to GRASS
main page. Subdomains with explicit DNS records are not affected by
wildcard entry.

Beware that these days this also implies that SSL certificates need to
be available for these subdomains as well. While Let's Encrypt has
wildcard support, it's much more limited than an explicit list of
subdomains.

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Hi all,

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 1:28 PM Ondřej Pešek <pesej.ondrek@gmail.com> wrote:

pá 14. 8. 2020 v 1:17 odesílatel Markus Neteler <neteler@osgeo.org> napsal:

Ondřej Pešek <pesej.ondrek@gmail.com> schrieb am Do., 13. Aug. 2020, 23:50:

when I go to the GRASS website the lazy way without typing www (grass.osgeo.org), I can load the page without a problem.
However, when I want to try it with www (www.grass.osgeo.org), I get the "Page not found" error message.

Is it just me? Is it normal?

It's expected as we don't have a DNS record for that

Do we want that, too? I'd find it confusing, with and without www. But let's hear opinions!

As so far more voices can be heard saying yes, I have opened an issue for that [1]. Feel free to tag the issue
later with the `wontfix` label and close it, but at least there will be a record of that decision.

[1] https://github.com/OSGeo/grass-website/issues/219

So, isse kindly solved by Regina, thanks!

From: Regina Obe:

Should be resolved at - https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2495

just redirected https://www.grass.osgeo.org and grass.osgeo.org to https://grass.osgeo.org.

Works smoothly now.

Markus