[GRASS-user] Any freely available topographical maps for (South-) Germany ?

Dear all,

I was asked about freely available geo-data concerning the South of
Germany.

AFAIK, best available elevation data are the SRTM3 data. About
topographical data I am aware of some commercial data (1:25.000). The
friend who asked me is satisfied with a 1:50.000 topo-map.

Any "secret" sources?

Thank you,

Nikos

On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 19:57 +0200, Nikos Alexandris wrote:

Dear all,

I was asked about freely available geo-data concerning the South of
Germany.

AFAIK, best available elevation data are the SRTM3 data. About
topographical data I am aware of some commercial data (1:25.000). The
friend who asked me is satisfied with a 1:50.000 topo-map.

Any "secret" sources?

Thank you,

Nikos

Besides the following links:

(topo-maps for Bavaria)

1.

http://www.gdi.bayern.de/Geowebdienste/geowebdienste.htm#TK50

I can't get following web-service running on my firefox under ubuntu
http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/ogc/getogc.cgi?request=getcapabilities

2.

some test data available here
http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/bvv_web/blva/index_direkt.html?navi=navi_fach.html&content=service/download.html

Nikos Alexandris pisze:

I was asked about freely available geo-data concerning the South of Germany.

AFAIK, best available elevation data are the SRTM3 data. About topographical data I am aware of some commercial data (1:25.000). The
friend who asked me is satisfied with a 1:50.000 topo-map.

Any "secret" sources?

I don't know how secret these are, but:

http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php?country=55
http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php?country=130

*How* free these are varies from map to map. As well as the quality.

These are in so called Polish format. Most complete description is
available in cGPSmapper manual AFAIK [1]. There is a freeware (closed)
program for converting them into Shapefiles [2]. Some other converter
[3]. Mateusz Loskot has worked on an OGR driver, but I don't know
details (CCing him).

[1]http://www.cgpsmapper.com/manual.htm
[2]http://www.msh-tools.com/Ptxt2shp.html
[3]http://www.gpslib.net/services/Polish-to-Google.Earth/

Maciek

P.S.
Please better ask generic free GIS data questions on FreeGIS ML.

--
Maciej Sieczka
www.sieczka.org

On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 23:10 +0200, Maciej Sieczka wrote:

Nikos Alexandris pisze:

> I was asked about freely available geo-data concerning the South of
> Germany.
>
> AFAIK, best available elevation data are the SRTM3 data. About
> topographical data I am aware of some commercial data (1:25.000). The
> friend who asked me is satisfied with a 1:50.000 topo-map.
>
> Any "secret" sources?

I don't know how secret these are, but:

http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php?country=55
http://mapcenter2.cgpsmapper.com/catalogue.php?country=130

*How* free these are varies from map to map. As well as the quality.

These are in so called Polish format. Most complete description is
available in cGPSmapper manual AFAIK [1]. There is a freeware (closed)
program for converting them into Shapefiles [2]. Some other converter
[3]. Mateusz Loskot has worked on an OGR driver, but I don't know
details (CCing him).

[1]http://www.cgpsmapper.com/manual.htm
[2]http://www.msh-tools.com/Ptxt2shp.html
[3]http://www.gpslib.net/services/Polish-to-Google.Earth/

Maciek

P.S.
Please better ask generic free GIS data questions on FreeGIS ML.

Thank you a lot for the information.

Nikos:

> I was asked about freely available geo-data concerning
> the South of Germany.

....

(topo-maps for Bavaria)

1.
http://www.gdi.bayern.de/Geowebdienste/geowebdienste.htm#TK50

I can't get following web-service running on my firefox
under ubuntu
http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/ogc/getogc.cgi?request=getcapabilities

you can access WMS servers with the r.in.wms module.
this will give you a raster map. If you want data not just a pretty picture make sure the server supports the GeoTiff format. (???)

SERVER="http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/ogc/getogc.cgi?"
r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" -l
# adding --verbose to that will show you a working URL for firefox

r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria ....

Hamish

On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 18:53 -0700, Hamish wrote:

you can access WMS servers with the r.in.wms module.
this will give you a raster map. If you want data not just a pretty
picture make sure the server supports the GeoTiff format. (???)

SERVER="http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/ogc/getogc.cgi?"
r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" -l
# adding --verbose to that will show you a working URL for firefox

r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria ....

Hamish

Thank you for the tips Hamish.

Is it correct to have downloaded files with the ".geotiff" extension ?

And the error (below)?

Thank you,

Nikos

r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria

[...]
Downloading data
15:33:55 URL:http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/ogc/getogc.cgi? [378] ->
"/home/nik/grassdb/rlp_fgaps/wms_download/TK50_Bavaria__0.geotiff" [1]
All tiles downloaded successfully
#################################
<?xml version='1.0' encoding="ISO-8859-1" standalone="no" ?>
<!DOCTYPE ServiceExceptionReport SYSTEM
"http://schemas.opengis.net/wms/1.1.1/exception_1_1_1.dtd&quot;&gt;
<ServiceExceptionReport version="1.1.1">
<ServiceException code="InvalidFormat">
msWMSLoadGetMapParams(): Image handling error. Unsupported output format
(image/geotiff).
</ServiceException>
</ServiceExceptionReport>

Hamish:

> you can access WMS servers with the r.in.wms module.
> this will give you a raster map. If you want data not
> just a pretty picture make sure the server supports the GeoTiff
> format. (???)
>
> SERVER="http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/ogc/getogc.cgi?&quot;
> r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" -l
> # adding --verbose to that will show you a working
> URL for firefox
>
> r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria ....

Nikos:

Is it correct to have downloaded files with the
".geotiff" extension ?

I think if you look in them you will see an error message not an image.
?

And the error (below)?

>r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria
[...]
Downloading data
15:33:55 URL:http://www.geodaten.bayern.de/ogc/getogc.cgi?
[378] ->
"/home/nik/grassdb/rlp_fgaps/wms_download/TK50_Bavaria__0.geotiff" [1]
All tiles downloaded successfully
#################################
<?xml version='1.0'
encoding="ISO-8859-1" standalone="no"
?>
<!DOCTYPE ServiceExceptionReport SYSTEM
"http://schemas.opengis.net/wms/1.1.1/exception_1_1_1.dtd&quot;&gt;
<ServiceExceptionReport version="1.1.1">
<ServiceException code="InvalidFormat">
msWMSLoadGetMapParams(): Image handling error. Unsupported
output format (image/geotiff).
</ServiceException>
</ServiceExceptionReport>

"Unsupported output format (image/geotiff)."

downloading the capabilities file by hand it shows:

<!-- MapServer version 5.0.0 OUTPUT=GIF OUTPUT=PNG OUTPUT=JPEG OUTPUT=WBMP OUTPUT=SVG SUPPORTS=PROJ SUPPORTS=FREETYPE SUPPORTS=WMS_SERVER SUPPORTS=W
MS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WFS_SERVER SUPPORTS=WFS_CLIENT SUPPORTS=WCS_SERVER SUPPORTS=GEOS INPUT=EPPL7 INPUT=POSTGIS INPUT=OGR INPUT=GDAL INPUT=SHAPEFILE -
->
....
    <GetMap>
      <Format>image/jpg</Format>
      <Format>image/gif</Format>
      <Format>image/png</Format>
      <Format>image/png; mode=24bit</Format>
      <Format>image/jpeg</Format>
      <Format>image/wbmp</Format>
      <Format>image/tiff</Format>
      <Format>image/svg+xml</Format>

no geotiff support. set format= to one of the above.

I tried in a WGS84 lat/lon loc:

g.region n=50:30N s=47:15N w=9E e=13:45E res=0:00:30
r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria format=png -g

it seemed to work, but I only got a blank map. Maybe you will have better luck. Using "-g" I got a "(c) Bayerische ..." in the image, without "-g" I didn't. shrug.

maybe you can get something from v.in.wfs?
or try QGIS's or GDAL 1.5+'s WMS import tools?

Hamish

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On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 07:49 -0700, Hamish wrote:

Hamish:

[...]

Thank you for the details.

no geotiff support. set format= to one of the above.

I tried in a WGS84 lat/lon loc:

g.region n=50:30N s=47:15N w=9E e=13:45E res=0:00:30
r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria format=png -g

Can't get it working. Is the "-g" flag in svn 63release or 63dev? I
don't have it.

it seemed to work, but I only got a blank map. Maybe you will have better luck. Using "-g" I got a "(c) Bayerische ..." in the image, without "-g" I didn't. shrug.

maybe you can get something from v.in.wfs?

But this concerns only vector data, no?

or try QGIS's or GDAL 1.5+'s WMS import tools?

QGIS seems gets the "layers" but doesn't connect/download.

(I didn't try the GDAL_wms yet)

Hamish

> r.in.wms mapserver="$SERVER" layer=TK50 out=TK50_Bavaria format=png -g

Nikos:

Can't get it working. Is the "-g" flag in svn 63release or 63dev? I
don't have it.

Sorry, it is not in 6.3.0. It was added to trunk and develbranch_6 a month ago*. In this case POST data seems to be allowed by the server, so don't worry about that. You can grab a new copy of scripts/r.in.wms/* from SVN if you'd like to try.
[*] http://trac.osgeo.org/grass/changeset/31329

> maybe you can get something from v.in.wfs?
But this concerns only vector data, no?

correct. (I assume this is the SVG+XML output option)

Hamish