[GRASS-user] Draping map

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Hi,
I’ve a DEM with 90m resolution and a tif map (1 m res).

In draping the tif on my dem the resultant map in nviz has a very low quality.
I tried changing the resolution of the DEM (r.resamp) in order to have the same than tif, but I didn’t obtain improvements.

Any advice?

Thanks

regards

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Hi Edmondo,

If I get your question correctly:

Resampling data with a spatial resolution of 90m might increase the resolution of the DEM itself , but it will not increase the detail of the data, only the number of pixels in your DEM. For instance, when you downscale an image of 1 x 1 pixel by a factor 2 (both in x and y direction), the new image will consist of four pixels (2x2). Which all have the same value as the original 1 pixel. So although the number of pixels has been increased, the detail remains the same.

So in the end there is not much to do about it.

Regards, Tom

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Subject: [GRASS-user] Draping map

Hi,
I’ve a DEM with 90m resolution and a tif map (1 m res).

In draping the tif on my dem the resultant map in nviz has a very low quality.
I tried changing the resolution of the DEM (r.resamp) in order to have the same than tif, but I didn’t obtain improvements.

Any advice?

Thanks

regards

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Dear Tom,
thanks for your clear explanation.

I think I should obtain better results by this procedure:

  1. Building vector contours from dem 90 meters;
  2. Conversion contours to raster
  3. Running r.surf.rst in order to generate a new dem with higher resolution

can it be a good way?
Thanks
Regards

Edmondo

2009/1/20, Tom van der Putte <tom@vdputte.nl>:

Hi Edmondo,

If I get your question correctly:

Resampling data with a spatial resolution of 90m might increase the resolution of the DEM itself , but it will not increase the detail of the data, only the number of pixels in your DEM. For instance, when you downscale an image of 1 x 1 pixel by a factor 2 (both in x and y direction), the new image will consist of four pixels (2x2). Which all have the same value as the original 1 pixel. So although the number of pixels has been increased, the detail remains the same.

So in the end there is not much to do about it.

Regards, Tom

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Sent: dinsdag 20 januari 2009 9:50
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Subject: [GRASS-user] Draping map

Hi,
I’ve a DEM with 90m resolution and a tif map (1 m res).

In draping the tif on my dem the resultant map in nviz has a very low quality.
I tried changing the resolution of the DEM (r.resamp) in order to have the same than tif, but I didn’t obtain improvements.

Any advice?

Thanks

regards

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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:31:33PM +0100, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the <edmondo.elisei@gmail.com> flavor, containing:

Dear Tom,
thanks for your clear explanation.

I think I should obtain better results by this procedure:
1) Building vector contours from dem 90 meters;
2) Conversion contours to raster
3) Running r.surf.rst in order to generate a new dem with higher resolution

If you're only interested in improving the view in NVIZ, you might try instead
using bilinear interpolation of your DEM to higher resolution. The resulting
DEM won't be a good one to use for serious analytical work (or so I understand)
but will be smoother than the stair-step view you'll have merely by resampling.

Check out r.resamp.interp. Set your region to the resolution of the TIFF you
plan to use as the color map, and use r.resamp.interp on the DEM with the
bilinear interpolation option.

I use this technique often for draping 2m-per-pixel USGS topo quad maps over
the corresponding 10m-per-pixel DEMs when teaching topo map reading skills to
search and rescue volunteers. For visualization purposes, it is adequate and
produces pretty pictures without stairsteps. For other purposes it is probably
quite poor as I understand there are significant artifacts that can creep in.

2009/1/20, Tom van der Putte <tom@vdputte.nl>:
>
> Hi Edmondo,
>
> If I get your question correctly:
>
> Resampling data with a spatial resolution of 90m might increase the
> resolution of the DEM itself , but it will not increase the detail of the
> data, only the number of pixels in your DEM. For instance, when you
> downscale an image of 1 x 1 pixel by a factor 2 (both in x and y direction),
> the new image will consist of four pixels (2x2). Which all have the same
> value as the original 1 pixel. So although the number of pixels has been
> increased, the detail remains the same.
>
> *From:* grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
> grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Edmondo Elisei
> *Sent:* dinsdag 20 januari 2009 9:50
> *To:* GRASS user list
> *Subject:* [GRASS-user] Draping map
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I've a DEM with 90m resolution and a tif map (1 m res).
>
> In draping the tif on my dem the resultant map in nviz has a very low
> quality.
> I tried changing the resolution of the DEM (r.resamp) in order to have the
> same than tif, but I didn't obtain improvements.

--
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Indeed, you can smooth things out in multiple ways for visualization
purposes, but interpolating the data from 90, to 1 m resolution is not the
best way to go when you want to do important analyses.

Good luck,
Tom

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On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 03:31:33PM +0100, we recorded a bogon-computron
collision of the <edmondo.elisei@gmail.com> flavor, containing:

Dear Tom,
thanks for your clear explanation.

I think I should obtain better results by this procedure:
1) Building vector contours from dem 90 meters;
2) Conversion contours to raster
3) Running r.surf.rst in order to generate a new dem with higher

resolution

If you're only interested in improving the view in NVIZ, you might try
instead
using bilinear interpolation of your DEM to higher resolution. The
resulting
DEM won't be a good one to use for serious analytical work (or so I
understand)
but will be smoother than the stair-step view you'll have merely by
resampling.

Check out r.resamp.interp. Set your region to the resolution of the TIFF
you
plan to use as the color map, and use r.resamp.interp on the DEM with the
bilinear interpolation option.

I use this technique often for draping 2m-per-pixel USGS topo quad maps over
the corresponding 10m-per-pixel DEMs when teaching topo map reading skills
to
search and rescue volunteers. For visualization purposes, it is adequate
and
produces pretty pictures without stairsteps. For other purposes it is
probably
quite poor as I understand there are significant artifacts that can creep
in.

2009/1/20, Tom van der Putte <tom@vdputte.nl>:
>
> Hi Edmondo,
>
> If I get your question correctly:
>
> Resampling data with a spatial resolution of 90m might increase the
> resolution of the DEM itself , but it will not increase the detail of

the

> data, only the number of pixels in your DEM. For instance, when you
> downscale an image of 1 x 1 pixel by a factor 2 (both in x and y

direction),

> the new image will consist of four pixels (2x2). Which all have the same
> value as the original 1 pixel. So although the number of pixels has been
> increased, the detail remains the same.
>
> *From:* grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:
> grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Edmondo Elisei
> *Sent:* dinsdag 20 januari 2009 9:50
> *To:* GRASS user list
> *Subject:* [GRASS-user] Draping map
>
>
>
> Hi,
> I've a DEM with 90m resolution and a tif map (1 m res).
>
> In draping the tif on my dem the resultant map in nviz has a very low
> quality.
> I tried changing the resolution of the DEM (r.resamp) in order to have

the

> same than tif, but I didn't obtain improvements.

--
Tom Russo KM5VY SAR502 DM64ux http://www.swcp.com/~russo/
Tijeras, NM QRPL#1592 K2#398 SOC#236
http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?DDTNM
  In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.
                                  -- Ineffective daily affirmation

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