[GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler. I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

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I’ve tried a number of things without luck. Hopefully you can help.

Regards,

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Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by 'the graphic modeler'. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as '', even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: "While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information."

You have two options:

1) Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called 'cat') and where=ROUND=0.

2) Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don't hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

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Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I'll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "switching back". Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn't mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

- What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

- What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

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Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

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-----Original Message-----
From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM
To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by 'the graphic modeler'. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as '', even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: "While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information."

You have two options:

1) Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called 'cat') and where=ROUND=0.

2) Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don't hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

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Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
To: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “switching back”. Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn’t mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

  • What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

  • What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

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Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

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-----Original Message-----

From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <[joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.aumailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au](mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au)> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by ‘the graphic modeler’. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: “While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information.”

You have two options:

  1. Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called ‘cat’) and where=ROUND=0.

  1. Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don’t hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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Hi Joshua,

Am 24.11.2021 00:23 schrieb Joshua Geoghegan:

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and
close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload
and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked
to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

There is no v.db.connect in the commands you list in the attached image.

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being
cleaned up beforehand.

Please if in any way possible include the commands in a text (not image) form. That makes it much easier to add targeted comments and responses.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the
v.net.distance.

Your v.import and v.net seem ok (assuming that a threshold of 2 is enough to cover all points you want to connect).

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could
populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance
outputs that.

Yes. From the man page:

"A table is linked to output map containing various information about the relation. More specifically, the table has three columns: cat, tcat and dist storing category of each from feature, category of the nearest to feature and the distance between them respectively."

So, the important part is the v.net.distance call. Several remarks:

- Your from_layer and to_layer should be = 2 since that is where your points are.
- In your original mail you spoke about calculating shortest path between one point and all others. If that is still the case you have to either use from_cat and to_cat to select based on category values, or use from_where and to_where to select based on attributes.
- If you want to use attributes, you have to use v.db.connect to connect the table linked to your original point map to the node layer in your network map.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

When you say it didn't work, what exactly happened ?

Moritz

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Hi Moritz,

I was wondering if you got a chance to see my reply with my current Grass workflow.

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 1:57 PM
To: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

MPS

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “switching back”. Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn’t mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

  • What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

  • What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

[cid:image001.png@01D7E05F.93540130]

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

-----Original Message-----

From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <[joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.aumailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au](mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au)> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by ‘the graphic modeler’. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: “While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information.”

You have two options:

  1. Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called ‘cat’) and where=ROUND=0.

  1. Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don’t hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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[Consider the Environment]

Hi Moritz,

I was wondering if you got a chance to see my reply with my current Grass workflow.

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,

···

MPS

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 1:57 PM
To: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

MPS

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

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the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

We are committed to carbon neutrality.

From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “switching back”. Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn’t mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

  • What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

  • What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

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Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

-----Original Message-----

From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <[joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.aumailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au](mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au)> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by ‘the graphic modeler’. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: “While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information.”

You have two options:

  1. Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called ‘cat’) and where=ROUND=0.

  1. Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don’t hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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Apologies, I’ll take a look today.

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From: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 6:16 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Josh,

I sent you a reply:

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/2021-December/082742.html

I don’t think you sent anything since then.

Moritz

Le 5 décembre 2021 21:50:54 GMT+00:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Hi Moritz,

I was wondering if you got a chance to see my reply with my current Grass workflow.

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

Follow us on social media!

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,
the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

We are committed to carbon neutrality.

From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 1:57 PM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

Follow us on social media!

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,
the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

We are committed to carbon neutrality.

From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

-----Original Message-----
From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “switching back”. Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn’t mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

  • What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

  • What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

[cid:image001.png@01D7E05F.93540130]

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

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-----Original Message-----

From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <[joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.aumailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au](mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au)> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by ‘the graphic modeler’. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: “While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information.”

You have two options:

  1. Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called ‘cat’) and where=ROUND=0.

  1. Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don’t hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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Hi Moritz,

Regarding the last comment in your reply, with everything I have tried so far when I change the From and To layers to 2 it will always reverts back to layer 1 when I come back in to this form.

Also, when I change it to layer 2 and try to add a where clause I am told there is no layer linked to layer 2.

I’ve connected the points table to the network here.

Below is the setup for the command. I couldn’t seem to output the script into text so here is that function in the Python output. Notice the layer is set to 1. I keep changing that to 2 also but it reverts to 1.

run_command(“v.db.connect”,

flags=‘o’,

overwrite = True,

map=“myroads_net_Rosebud_Meals”,

driver=“sqlite”,

database=“$GISDBASE/$LOCATION_NAME/$MAPSET/sqlite/sqlite.db”,

table=“Meals_Rosebud_reproj”,

key=“cat”,

layer=“1”,

separator=“pipe”)

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Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 8:32 AM
To: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Apologies, I’ll take a look today.

Regards,

MPS

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 6:16 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Josh,

I sent you a reply:

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/2021-December/082742.html

I don’t think you sent anything since then.

Moritz

Le 5 décembre 2021 21:50:54 GMT+00:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Hi Moritz,

I was wondering if you got a chance to see my reply with my current Grass workflow.

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

Follow us on social media!

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,
the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

We are committed to carbon neutrality.

From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 1:57 PM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

Follow us on social media!

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,
the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

We are committed to carbon neutrality.

From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “switching back”. Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn’t mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

  • What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

  • What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

[cid:image001.png@01D7E05F.93540130]

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Private Bag 1000, Rosebud VIC 3939 | 90 Besgrove Street, Rosebud VIC 3939

www.mornpen.vic.gov.au | Twitter @MornPenShire | Facebook @MornPenShire

Mornington Peninsula Shire acknowledges and pays respect to the Bunurong/Boon Wurrung people,

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <[joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.aumailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au](mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au)> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by ‘the graphic modeler’. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: “While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information.”

You have two options:

  1. Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called ‘cat’) and where=ROUND=0.

  1. Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don’t hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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Hi Moritz,

I’m not sure if this email got through sorry. See below.

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 9:47 AM
To: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Regarding the last comment in your reply, with everything I have tried so far when I change the From and To layers to 2 it will always reverts back to layer 1 when I come back in to this form.

Also, when I change it to layer 2 and try to add a where clause I am told there is no layer linked to layer 2.

I’ve connected the points table to the network here.

Below is the setup for the command. I couldn’t seem to output the script into text so here is that function in the Python output. Notice the layer is set to 1. I keep changing that to 2 also but it reverts to 1.

run_command(“v.db.connect”,

flags=‘o’,

overwrite = True,

map=“myroads_net_Rosebud_Meals”,

driver=“sqlite”,

database=“$GISDBASE/$LOCATION_NAME/$MAPSET/sqlite/sqlite.db”,

table=“Meals_Rosebud_reproj”,

key=“cat”,

layer=“1”,

separator=“pipe”)

Regards,

MPS

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 8:32 AM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Apologies, I’ll take a look today.

Regards,

MPS

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 6:16 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Josh,

I sent you a reply:

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/2021-December/082742.html

I don’t think you sent anything since then.

Moritz

Le 5 décembre 2021 21:50:54 GMT+00:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Hi Moritz,

I was wondering if you got a chance to see my reply with my current Grass workflow.

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

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Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 1:57 PM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

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Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

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the Traditional Custodians of these lands and waters.

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “switching back”. Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn’t mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

  • What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

  • What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

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Regards,

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <[joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.aumailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au](mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au)> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by ‘the graphic modeler’. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: “While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information.”

You have two options:

  1. Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called ‘cat’) and where=ROUND=0.

  1. Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don’t hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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Happy holidays all.

Just wondering if you were able to help with the below when you have a chance. I’m hoping to have it working in the new year.

Regards,

Josh

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From: grass-user grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org on behalf of Joshua Geoghegan joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 9:47 AM
To: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Regarding the last comment in your reply, with everything I have tried so far when I change the From and To layers to 2 it will always reverts back to layer 1 when I come back in to this form.

Also, when I change it to layer 2 and try to add a where clause I am told there is no layer linked to layer 2.

I’ve connected the points table to the network here.

Below is the setup for the command. I couldn’t seem to output the script into text so here is that function in the Python output. Notice the layer is set to 1. I keep changing that to 2 also but it reverts to 1.

run_command(“v.db.connect”,

flags=‘o’,

overwrite = True,

map=“myroads_net_Rosebud_Meals”,

driver=“sqlite”,

database=“$GISDBASE/$LOCATION_NAME/$MAPSET/sqlite/sqlite.db”,

table=“Meals_Rosebud_reproj”,

key=“cat”,

layer=“1”,

separator=“pipe”)

Regards,

MPS

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

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Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 8:32 AM
To: Moritz Lennert mlennert@club.worldonline.be; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Apologies, I’ll take a look today.

Regards,

MPS

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 6:16 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Josh,

I sent you a reply:

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/2021-December/082742.html

I don’t think you sent anything since then.

Moritz

Le 5 décembre 2021 21:50:54 GMT+00:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Hi Moritz,

I was wondering if you got a chance to see my reply with my current Grass workflow.

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Friday, 26 November 2021 1:57 PM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

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Phone: 03 5950 1321

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From: Joshua Geoghegan
Sent: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
To: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist | MORNINGTON PENINSULA SHIRE

Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>; grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I’ll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches back to layer 1.

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “switching back”. Most modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn’t mean that the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

  • What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the points ?

  • What is the output of v.category with option=report on the resulting file ?

Moritz

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Regards,

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Phone: 03 5950 1321

Email: joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au

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From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan <[joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.aumailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au](mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au)> a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by ‘the graphic modeler’. I assume you connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point (ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as ‘’, even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: “While the arcs created with v.net will retain any attribute information associated with the input vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information.”

You have two options:

  1. Find out what to the category number of the point is that has ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the column containing the cat values is called ‘cat’) and where=ROUND=0.

  1. Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don’t hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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Hi Josh,

I would really suggest that we go back to the basics in order to really understand where your problem lies. So first of all, are you able to do what you are planning to do using simple command line, or calling the respective modules one by one from the GUI ?

Using the basic NC demo data set, this is what I do:

# connect streets and schools (snapping the school points to the existing road network)
v.net -s in=streets points=schools op=connect threshold=200 output=streets_schools_network
# copy the original schools attribute table into my current mapset
db.copy from_database=/home/mlennert/grassdata/nc_basic_spm_grass7/PERMANENT/sqlite/sqlite.db from_table=schools to_table=schools_network
# connect this table to the network map
v.db.connect streets_schools_network layer=2 table=schools_network

# Now, get the shortest path of the school with the attribute TAG = 548 to its closest neighbor
v.net.distance in=streets_schools_network output=path_548 from_layer=2 from_where=TAG=548 to_layer=2 to_where="TAG <> 548"

# Or get all shortest paths between all schools
v.net.allpairs streets_schools_network out=paths_all

# Get all the shortest paths of the school with TAG=548
# As the TAG attribute is not part of the shortest paths table, but the from category is, get that first
v.db.select paths_all layer=2 where=TAG=548 col=cat
v.db.select paths_all layer=1 where=from_cat=20

# Display only those paths, using random colors for the different paths
d.vect -c map=paths_all@user1 where=from_cat=20 color=255:165:0:255 width=2

# To make selection using the TAG variable easier, I can add it to the attribute table of the paths through a table join

# Find out names of tables of the paths_all map
v.db.connect paths_all -p

# Join TAG attribute from the points layer table to the arc layer table using the cat of the points layer table and the from_cat of the arc layer table as keys
v.db.join paths_all column=from_cat other_table=paths_all_schools_network other_column=cat subset_columns=TAG

# Now select using TAG
v.db.select paths_all layer=1 where=TAG=548

If all this works for you either on command line or using the individual module GUIs, then we can check whether there are particular issues in the graphical modeler.

Moritz

Am 30.12.2021 03:52 schrieb Joshua Geoghegan:

Happy holidays all.

Just wondering if you were able to help with the below when you have
a chance. I'm hoping to have it working in the new year.

Regards,

Josh

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FROM: grass-user <grass-user-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of
Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>
SENT: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 9:47 AM
TO: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>;
grass-user@lists.osgeo.org <grass-user@lists.osgeo.org>
SUBJECT: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not
Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Regarding the last comment in your reply, with everything I have tried
so far when I change the From and To layers to 2 it will always
reverts back to layer 1 when I come back in to this form.

Also, when I change it to layer 2 and try to add a where clause I am
told there is no layer linked to layer 2.

I’ve connected the points table to the network here.

Below is the setup for the command. I couldn’t seem to output the
script into text so here is that function in the Python output. Notice
the layer is set to 1. I keep changing that to 2 also but it reverts
to 1.

run_command("v.db.connect",

flags='o',

overwrite = True,

map="myroads_net_Rosebud_Meals",

driver="sqlite",

database="$GISDBASE/$LOCATION_NAME/$MAPSET/sqlite/sqlite.db",

table="Meals_Rosebud_reproj",

key="cat",

layer="1",

separator="pipe")

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FROM: Joshua Geoghegan
SENT: Wednesday, 8 December 2021 8:32 AM
TO: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>;
grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
SUBJECT: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not
Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Apologies, I’ll take a look today.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

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FROM: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
SENT: Tuesday, 7 December 2021 6:16 PM
TO: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>;
grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
SUBJECT: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not
Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Josh,

I sent you a reply:

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/grass-user/2021-December/082742.html
[10]

I don't think you sent anything since then.

Moritz

Le 5 décembre 2021 21:50:54 GMT+00:00, Joshua Geoghegan
<joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Hi Moritz,

I was wondering if you got a chance to see my reply with my current
Grass workflow.

Hope it makes sense.

Regards,

JOSHUA GEOGHEGAN | GIS Specialist

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FROM: Joshua Geoghegan
SENT: Friday, 26 November 2021 1:57 PM
TO: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>;
grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
SUBJECT: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not
Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

Does the below make sense?

Perhaps I have connected the point and line vectors incorrectly?

Regards,

Josh

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FROM: Joshua Geoghegan
SENT: Wednesday, 24 November 2021 10:24 AM
TO: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>;
grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
SUBJECT: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not
Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Moritz,

When I set it to layer 2 (which is the point layer I connected) and
close the v.net.distance dialog, and reopen it I see the form reload
and it switches back to 1.

I also try to create the where clause and now it says no table
linked to layer 2 even though I linked it with v.db.connect.

I tried connecting the attribute table to the same vector for the
points, as well as trying connecting to the linked point/network
vector.

Am I missing a step perhaps? Is the attribute table coming straight
from the shapefile I am importing?

Below are the steps up until v.net.distance, with my network being
cleaned up beforehand.

The highlighted section is where I import the points up until the
v.net.distance.

I probably don’t need the v.db.addtable. That was there so I could
populate the distance for each route but I guess v.net.distance
outputs that.

It still didn’t work when I removed that.

Hopefully that makes sense.

Regards,

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-----Original Message-----
From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>
Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2021 6:07 PM
To: Joshua Geoghegan <joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>;
grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
Subject: RE: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not
Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 23 novembre 2021 01:45:14 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan
<joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au> a écrit :

Thanks Moritz,

What would be the reason behind the point layer switching back to

layer 1 in v.net.distance if I have linked the point and network?

I'll test your two options in the meantime, but it still switches

back to layer 1.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "switching back". Most
modules have layer=1as the default setting. That doesn't mean that
the specific layer you work on does not have other layers. Have you
checked whether you can set it to layer=2 ?

To help you, we would need some more info:

- What is the exact command you use to connect the lines and the
points ?

- What is the output of v.category with option=report on the
resulting file ?

Moritz

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-----Original Message-----

From: Moritz Lennert <mlennert@club.worldonline.be>

Sent: Monday, 22 November 2021 6:32 PM

To: grass-user@lists.osgeo.org; Joshua Geoghegan

<joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>

Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Grass Graphic Model v.net.distance Not

Accepting point layer in From or To fields

Hi Joshua,

Le 21 novembre 2021 22:12:42 GMT+01:00, Joshua Geoghegan

<joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au<mailto:joshua.geoghegan@mornpen.vic.gov.au>>

a écrit :

Hi there,

I have been stuck on a problem and I was hoping you could help, as

I had no luck on GIS Stack Exchange.

I have a point and network layer connected in Grass GIS via the

graphic modeler.

What exactly do you mean by 'the graphic modeler'. I assume you

connect the two using v.net ?

I am trying to find the shortest path between the first point

(ROUND=0) and every other point (ROUND != 0) on the same point
layer. For some reason I can select this layer (layer 2) in both
From and To tabs and add category 1-500 (which is more than the
number of points), but when I try the where clause and test for
values in the ROUND field on the SQL Builder the results show up as
'', even though the imported shp file has values. When I hit OK and
come back into the form it has reverted back to layer 1 in the From
and To tabs, which is road network layer.

What could be the issue here?

As the v.net man page states: "While the arcs created with v.net

will retain any attribute information associated with the input
vector line/boundary file in data layer 1, nodes created and stored
in data layer 2 will not have any associated attribute information."

You have two options:

1) Find out what to the category number of the point is that has

ROUND=0 and use that as from_cats, and all the others as to_cats.

This could be done with v.db.select using columns=cat (assuming the

column containing the cat values is called 'cat') and where=ROUND=0.

2) Connect the attribute table of your original point map to the

point layer of the connected network map using v.db.connect and the
use the from_where and to_where parameters as you did.

If any of that is not clear, don't hesitate to come back to us.

Moritz

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