Hi All,
Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input.
Thanks, Matt
Of course you can. If you want to use the apt rememer that the ubuntu
dapper repository has these releases:
Grass: 6.0.1
Gdal: 1.2.6
Proj: 4.4.9
If you want to use newer releases (and I suggest you to) you should
update to Feisty. It's the latest Ubuntu release supported by
http://les-ejk.cz/ubuntu/, Jáchym Èepický repository dedicated to
Ubuntu & GIS.
If you upgrade to Gutsy you'll find an up-to-date repository directly
in the official one... Take a look at here: http://les-ejk.cz/
Giovanni
2007/11/3, M Jones <chohnz@gmail.com>:
Hi All,
Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and
am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If
anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you
have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte
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Hi Matt,
currently on my Ubuntu Distro this GRASS Versions are running:
GRASS6.0.2
GRASS6.2
GRASS6.3
GRASS 6.2 and 6.3 are compiled from source. As you can see, GRASS runs
on this distro and there's not a proposed Distro.
Malte
GRASS6
M Jones schrieb:
Hi All,
Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX
and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily
open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please
let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux
system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input.
Thanks, Matt
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Hi Matt,
I've run Grass on every version of Ubuntu from 5.10 to 7.10, with no problems (other than those attributed to user error 
)
There are users on this list running Grass on every flavor of *nix, so it all comes down to your own preference.
~ Eric.
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Subject: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Hi All,
Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and
am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If
anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you
have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte
any input.
Thanks, Matt
I am currently running GRASS on Ubuntu 7.04 in a virtual machine using
virtual box (also free) running under Vista x64 ultimate- not free :).
This is a great way to run GRASS if you want seemless integration with a
windows host. They can share directories.
I have built an Ubuntu/GRASS6.3/QGIS VM for virtual box which I could
upload to my website for downloading if anyone is interested?
I'm assuming I can do this legally?
Cheers
Darrel
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Hi Matt,
I've run Grass on every version of Ubuntu from 5.10 to 7.10, with no
problems (other than those attributed to user error )
There are users on this list running Grass on every flavor of *nix, so
it all comes down to your own preference.
~ Eric.
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To: grassuser@grass.itc.it
Subject: [GRASS-user] GRASS on Ubuntu
Hi All,
Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX
and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source.
If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or
if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id
appreciatte any input.
Thanks, Matt
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Darrel Maddy wrote:
I am currently running GRASS on Ubuntu 7.04 in a virtual machine using
virtual box (also free) running under Vista x64 ultimate- not free :).This is a great way to run GRASS if you want seemless integration with a
windows host. They can share directories.I have built an Ubuntu/GRASS6.3/QGIS VM for virtual box which I could
upload to my website for downloading if anyone is interested?I'm assuming I can do this legally?
The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is
that the source code is available "from the same place" as the
binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a
different site).
If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the
requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous.
The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue.
--
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On Nov 5, 2007, at 3:03 PM, Glynn Clements wrote:
The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is
that the source code is available "from the same place" as the
binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a
different site).If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the
requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous.
I've been a bit lazy about this myself with my OSX binaries. I used to have a GRASS source snapshot download on my site, but it got tiresome, especially now that I update from CVS instead of using the weekly snapshots.
Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS site?
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Dear Glynn,
"The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is
that the source code is available "from the same place" as the binaries
(i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a different site).
If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the
requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous.
The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue."
Thanks for the info - I suspected it might be an issue. I just thought
it might be useful, alas it is not to be.
I would still recommend the Virtual route though as I have already
managed to screw-up one clone but care - I do not!
Darrel
William Kyngesburye wrote:
Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS
site?
If you have write access to the grass6/ CVS, you also have write access to the
web/ dirs.
http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/web/grass63/binary/macosx/
remember to do "cvs add -kb"
I need to reread the GPL before commenting further.
Hamish
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On Nov 5, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Hamish wrote:
William Kyngesburye wrote:
Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS
site?If you have write access to the grass6/ CVS, you also have write access to the
web/ dirs.http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/web/grass63/binary/macosx/
Ah, right. It's been a while since I worked in the web area.
So, using the linux downloads as a sample, it appears that if there is a README.html, the folder contents are shown before the README.html. Though I don't see any binaries in CVS, is that really where I would put them?
Or is there a definitive description of how that works?
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This is probably a dumb comment, but I assume users should be running the released revision of grass, not the current CVS, so I don't see the need to provide binaries for a moving target. Or does the development team believe users should run the CVS?
William Kyngesburye wrote:
On Nov 5, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Hamish wrote:
William Kyngesburye wrote:
Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS
site?If you have write access to the grass6/ CVS, you also have write access to the
web/ dirs.http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/web/grass63/binary/macosx/
Ah, right. It's been a while since I worked in the web area.
So, using the linux downloads as a sample, it appears that if there is a README.html, the folder contents are shown before the README.html. Though I don't see any binaries in CVS, is that really where I would put them?
Or is there a definitive description of how that works?
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Gary wrote:
This is probably a dumb comment, but I assume users should be running
the released revision of grass, not the current CVS, so I don't see the
need to provide binaries for a moving target. Or does the development
team believe users should run the CVS?
IMO,
Users should use the stable branch.
Curious users who don't mind bugs and power users who require the latest
greatest features are encouraged to try the development branch. The more
testing the development branch gets, the fewer bugs it will have when stable
users start to use it. Also for new development like the native MS Windows
port, some important features are only available in the devel version, so it is
the only choice.
There is no official recommended version, use what is best for you. Or use a
mix of both if you like.
As for development branch binaries- The development branch is usually usable
for day to day work, so it is a nice service for packagers to provide a
snapshot version if they like to. As long as there is a stable version too, it
doesn't hurt to have the extra choice.
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gary wrote:
This is probably a dumb comment, but I assume users should be running
the released revision of grass, not the current CVS, so I don't see the
need to provide binaries for a moving target. Or does the development
team believe users should run the CVS?
As Hamish says, it's up to the users whether they want to use a
release or the CVS version. The CVS version has the latest features,
but is subject to change without notice.
It's hard to say which version has fewer bugs; bug fixes will appear
in the CVS version before they appear in a release. OTOH, any new bugs
will also appear in CVS first.
Obviously, it's better for GRASS development if people use the CVS
versions. We need all the beta-testers that we can get.
It's debatable whether users should be using binaries from CVS.
If you're going to use a CVS version, you may as well take advantage
of the ability to update it regularly without having to download a
completely new binary package each time.
OTOH, native Windows and MacOSX support will typically be
significantly further advanced in the CVS version compared to the
latest release, and building from source on those platforms is
probably more problematic than it is on Linux.
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On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, William Kyngesburye wrote:
On Nov 5, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Hamish wrote:
William Kyngesburye wrote:
Would it be possible to get upload access for binaries on the GRASS
site?If you have write access to the grass6/ CVS, you also have write access to the
web/ dirs.http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/web/grass63/binary/macosx/
Ah, right. It's been a while since I worked in the web area.
So, using the linux downloads as a sample, it appears that if there is a README.html, the folder contents are shown before the README.html. Though I don't see any binaries in CVS, is that really where I would put them?
No - in general only text files and small images and such go in the web CVS. When I've prepared binaries and source tarballs in the past I used to upload them to Markus' FTP server and ask him to copy them over to the webserver, but AFAIK it isn't running any more so the last time (5.4.1 release in the summer) I put the files on my own FTP server and asked him to copy them across.
Or is there a definitive description of how that works?
There's not sure but there's at least a convention as to which files go in the CVS and which are manually copied over - look at some of the other binaries directories in CVS and compare them to what's actually there on the webserver to get an idea.
Hope that points you in the right direction.
Paul
Hi,
as English is not my native language, I was not able to find place
where in GPL is such requirement. GPL 2.5 section 3. only says
something about providing source with binary version OR provide source
on request for next 3. years OR this part I was not able fully
understand, but it seemed to me, that if I distribute Debian
(binary)+add-ons, I have to provide source for add-ons only. Correct
me if I'm wrong, but IMHO Darrel needs to keep only GRASS/QGIS source
at hand or inside VM image, no download servers et.al.
Sorry for disturbia, me do not spik inglis.
Maris.
2007/11/5, Glynn Clements <glynn@gclements.plus.com>:
The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is
that the source code is available "from the same place" as the
binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a
different site).If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the
requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous.The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue.
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Maris Nartiss wrote:
> The main requirement with providing binaries of GPL/LGPL software is
> that the source code is available "from the same place" as the
> binaries (i.e. you can't just provide a URL to the source on a
> different site).
>
> If you're providing a complete VM image including the OS, the
> requirement to provide full source code could be fairly onerous.
>
> The fact that the software runs on a proprietary OS isn't an issue.as English is not my native language, I was not able to find place
where in GPL is such requirement. GPL 2.5 section 3. only says
something about providing source with binary version OR provide source
on request for next 3. years OR this part I was not able fully
understand, but it seemed to me, that if I distribute Debian
(binary)+add-ons, I have to provide source for add-ons only.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but IMHO Darrel needs to keep only
GRASS/QGIS source at hand or inside VM image, no download servers
et.al.
No. Note that Darrel was talking about providing a "VM image", i.e. a
complete system including the OS as well as GRASS/QGIS:
" I have built an Ubuntu/GRASS6.3/QGIS VM for virtual box which I
" could upload to my website for downloading if anyone is interested?
The contents would be roughly similar to an ISO image for a LiveCD,
except that it's designed to be used directly rather than as a source
from which to install.
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On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote:
Hi All,
Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input.
On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote:
> Hi All,
> Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX
> and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily
> open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please
> let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system
> to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input.
I created grass 6.2.2 packages for Dapper for our student computer lab. I can make them available to you if you still need them (just don't have access to the machine where they are at the moment).
Moritz
Hi,
I could add your packages to les-ejk's repository, if you don't might
jachym
Moritz Lennert píše v Út 06. 11. 2007 v 17:08 +0100:
On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote:
> Hi All,
> Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX
> and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily
> open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please
> let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system
> to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input.On 03/11/07 01:08, M Jones wrote:
> Hi All,
> Can I run GRASS on Ubuntu 6.06? Im new to the world of GRASS and UNIX
> and am hoping to create a home GIS system that is primarily
> open-source. If anyone has experience running GRASS on Ubuntu please
> let me know. Or if you have other suggestions for the best Linux system
> to run GRASS Id appreciatte any input.I created grass 6.2.2 packages for Dapper for our student computer lab.
I can make them available to you if you still need them (just don't have
access to the machine where they are at the moment).Moritz
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