I've done a quick search of the mailing list but haven't come across
anything: Has anyone been able to get a working installation on XP64?
It just so happens that this is the computer I need to get GRASS onto,
so I'd appreciate your thoughts on it. Specifically, I need to use the
3D Raster functions of the newer release.
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Hi All,
I have only used on WindowsXP (32bit), that too the old GRASS6.1.
Am eagerly waiting for the release of the latest as a Setup.exe file.
Ravi Kumar
I’ve done a quick search of the mailing list but haven’t come across
anything: Has anyone been able to get a working installation on XP64?
It just so happens that this is the computer I need to get GRASS onto,
so I’d appreciate your thoughts on it. Specifically, I need to use the
3D Raster functions of the newer release.
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I've done a quick search of the mailing list but haven't come across
anything: Has anyone been able to get a working installation on XP64?
It just so happens that this is the computer I need to get GRASS onto,
so I'd appreciate your thoughts on it. Specifically, I need to use
the 3D Raster functions of the newer release.
no idea if there are Win+64bit issues, but try it and see..
good luck,
Hamish
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X64 has a bug in it related to opening large files with 32 bit software. Worse yet, it is not very repeatable, but the bug crops up with programs like photoshop and open office calc. [Even CS3 isn't compiled for x64!) The problem is in gdi32.dll. I don't know if this will be a problem for GRASS, but I think it's likely to be.
That said, I really suggest installing suse 10.2 and just running grass in linux. It isn't very hard to compile. This way you will get real 64 bit performance. Probably not in memory space, but there are additional instructions used when running 64 bit code. Suse 10.2 will dual boot.
Hamish wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Hi Andrew,
I've done a quick search of the mailing list but haven't come across
anything: Has anyone been able to get a working installation on XP64?
It just so happens that this is the computer I need to get GRASS onto,
so I'd appreciate your thoughts on it. Specifically, I need to use
the 3D Raster functions of the newer release.
no idea if there are Win+64bit issues, but try it and see..
good luck,
Hamish
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I've been hearing about this large file bug in Windows, but I *routinely*
open files >> 10gb within RSI's ENVI, so I feel there is something else
going on here. Certainly there's a memory management issue due to the 32
bit memory calls, but that isn't the same as being able to read/write large
files. Most raster calculations need minimal memory anyway, since they are
most efficiently (memory-wise) done using tiled processing. GDAL's support
for large files under Windows has been sporadic, and my understanding was
that it had a lot to do with the cygwin environment and continuing LFS
issues with that.
I had a lot of success getting Debian linux running within a windows
environment using Virtual PC (which is now free !!!) and had flawless LFS
for GDAL (I was using it to run starspan).
--j
On 2/25/07 4:04 PM, "gary" <lists@lazygranch.com> wrote:
X64 has a bug in it related to opening large files with 32 bit software.
Worse yet, it is not very repeatable, but the bug crops up with
programs like photoshop and open office calc. [Even CS3 isn't compiled
for x64!) The problem is in gdi32.dll. I don't know if this will be a
problem for GRASS, but I think it's likely to be.
That said, I really suggest installing suse 10.2 and just running grass
in linux. It isn't very hard to compile. This way you will get real 64
bit performance. Probably not in memory space, but there are additional
instructions used when running 64 bit code. Suse 10.2 will dual boot.
Hamish wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Hi Andrew,
I've done a quick search of the mailing list but haven't come across
anything: Has anyone been able to get a working installation on XP64?
It just so happens that this is the computer I need to get GRASS onto,
so I'd appreciate your thoughts on it. Specifically, I need to use
the 3D Raster functions of the newer release.
no idea if there are Win+64bit issues, but try it and see..
good luck,
Hamish
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I should be clearer. Not every program under X64 has problems with large files. For instance, 7zip has a version compiled for x64 that can handle Gbytes. I also run sql. It is just the programs that use gdi32.dll.
I haven't had a gdi32 crash in about a month. The problem is a bugger to trace since it is not very consistent. One common thread is the programs crash at start up, presumably when requesting memory. I loaded the eval version of CS3 and had the same problem. [Don't even get me started on Adobe.]
I can't speak for virtual PC, but someone I know who used to work for VMware explained to me (and may I add it didn't sink in well since I'm not a programmer) that VPC and VMware cannot handle the "accelerated" features of fancy graphics cards. That is, you often need to turn off the hardware acceleration. This seems like a drawback to me for use with a graphical program.
All this said, I'm grateful for anyone writing opensource software and don't see the need to make their life any more difficult than need be. If the program requires linux, so be it. I have enough software running under linux that I can justify two PCs. Once you have samba installed, sharing files is easy. I haven't got aggressive enough to try to run GRASS via Xwindows on the PC, but if you don't like fooling with KVMs, that might be doable.
Jonathan Greenberg wrote:
I've been hearing about this large file bug in Windows, but I *routinely*
open files >> 10gb within RSI's ENVI, so I feel there is something else
going on here. Certainly there's a memory management issue due to the 32
bit memory calls, but that isn't the same as being able to read/write large
files. Most raster calculations need minimal memory anyway, since they are
most efficiently (memory-wise) done using tiled processing. GDAL's support
for large files under Windows has been sporadic, and my understanding was
that it had a lot to do with the cygwin environment and continuing LFS
issues with that.
I had a lot of success getting Debian linux running within a windows
environment using Virtual PC (which is now free !!!) and had flawless LFS
for GDAL (I was using it to run starspan).
--j
On 2/25/07 4:04 PM, "gary" <lists@lazygranch.com> wrote:
X64 has a bug in it related to opening large files with 32 bit software.
Worse yet, it is not very repeatable, but the bug crops up with
programs like photoshop and open office calc. [Even CS3 isn't compiled
for x64!) The problem is in gdi32.dll. I don't know if this will be a
problem for GRASS, but I think it's likely to be.
That said, I really suggest installing suse 10.2 and just running grass
in linux. It isn't very hard to compile. This way you will get real 64
bit performance. Probably not in memory space, but there are additional
instructions used when running 64 bit code. Suse 10.2 will dual boot.
Hamish wrote:
Hi Everyone,
Hi Andrew,
I've done a quick search of the mailing list but haven't come across
anything: Has anyone been able to get a working installation on XP64?
It just so happens that this is the computer I need to get GRASS onto,
so I'd appreciate your thoughts on it. Specifically, I need to use
the 3D Raster functions of the newer release.
no idea if there are Win+64bit issues, but try it and see..
good luck,
Hamish
ps-
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