[GRASS-user] Re: GRASS Promotion Team

Hi.

I'm in, am I am comfortable with LaTeX, although maybe we could think
on using some illustration program, like Inkscape to make the poster
and folders.

Carlos

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 22:47, Milena Nowotarska <do.milenki@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,

my name is Milena and I would like to remake GRASS Promotion Team [1].
I found your emails there so here I am.
Are you still interested in promoting GRASS GIS?

We need a new catchy brochure, new web page layout and moreover we
need to deny statement that GRASS is difficult and not pleasant GIS to
use. My goal is to encourage Windows users to use GRASS - first with
GUI and then, silently brainwash [2] them to use command line to, in
the end, make them change the platform to one compatible with POSIX.

If you have different priorities now, of course no problem, just let
me know if you are still in.

Regards
Milena

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_promotion_team
[2] just kidding :slight_smile:

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http://www.qgis.org/wiki/4._QGIS_Hackfest_in_Wroclaw_2010

--
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Institute of Geosciences - Univ. of São Paulo, Brazil
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On 10/23/2010 09:04 PM, Carlos Grohmann wrote:

Hi.

I'm in, am I am comfortable with LaTeX, although maybe we could think
on using some illustration program, like Inkscape to make the poster
and folders.

Carlos

On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 22:47, Milena Nowotarska<do.milenki@gmail.com> wrote:
   

Hi Guys,

my name is Milena and I would like to remake GRASS Promotion Team [1].
I found your emails there so here I am.
Are you still interested in promoting GRASS GIS?

We need a new catchy brochure, new web page layout and moreover we
need to deny statement that GRASS is difficult and not pleasant GIS to
use. My goal is to encourage Windows users to use GRASS - first with
GUI and then, silently brainwash [2] them to use command line to, in
the end, make them change the platform to one compatible with POSIX.

Hello Milena:
Maybe it's time for an article in the OSGeo Journal focusing on GRASS for Windows users?

Regards,
Micha

If you have different priorities now, of course no problem, just let
me know if you are still in.

Regards
Milena

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_promotion_team
[2] just kidding :slight_smile:

--
Milena Nowotarska
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Milena_Nowotarska
http://quantum-gis.pl/
http://www.qgis.org/wiki/4._QGIS_Hackfest_in_Wroclaw_2010

--
Micha Silver
Arava Development Co. +972-52-3665918
http://surfaces.co.il

Hi Carlos, Micha et al.

Anyone who has a vision of a new catchy GRASS brochure, flayer or even
video commercial [1] is kindly asked to stood up and join the GRASS
Promotion Team [2].
We just gained a new contributor who is willing to proofread english
and german documents, welcome Daniel!
All the existing promotion materials are listed on the appropriate
wiki page [3].

Carlos Grohmann wrote:

I'm in, am I am comfortable with LaTeX, although maybe we could think
on using some illustration program, like Inkscape to make the poster
and folders.

Does Inkscape produce large files? I am asking because we already have
a very nice poster [4], translated to several languages, which weights
about 9MB for each language. Since it needs to be updated for every
GRASS stable release, Martin proposed to rewrite it in LaTeX to share
at least the graphics. If you could rewrite it for one language, I can
use the LaTeX layout and catch up with other languages.

I think the software we will use for promotional materials is to be
discussed. For sure LaTeX will be the lightest and good to deal with
localization but it will not gain many contributors. For smaller
materials than the poster we might use other solutions.
Chip has proposed Scribus [5]. Since my knowledge of Scribus is that
it exists, I am going to read & try and waiting for your opinions.

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass_movie_CERL_1987/
[2] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_promotion_team
[3] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material
[4] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material#GRASS_Poster
[5] http://www.scribus.net/

Micha Silver wrote:

Hello Milena:
Maybe it's time for an article in the OSGeo Journal focusing on GRASS for
Windows users?

Good idea, I am thinking about that and actually I am writing
something in Polish now. Some of the ideas might be true for the whole
world, too. Would you mind to co-author?

Best,
Milena
--
Milena Nowotarska
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Milena_Nowotarska
http://quantum-gis.pl/ || http://grass-gis.pl/
http://www.qgis.org/wiki/4._QGIS_Hackfest_in_Wroclaw_2010

Hello

I was looking the GRASS Poster and I think it will be a lot easier to
make and keep it updated using Inkscape[1]. Since it is an
illustration program (like CorelDraw or Illustrator), it can handle
any page size (A0, A1, etc) and can produce large files. The native
file format is SVG[2], but it can export as PDF, high-res PNG or many
others. The poster I presented in the last Brazilian Geological
Congress was made in Inkscape and the resulting pdf is about 50Mb.
The SVG file itself is usually small, since the images are only
llinked. This makes easy to distribute the 'source'. Also, it has way
more tools for creating nice graphics than OpenOffice Impress or
LaTeX.

I will make a version of the poster in Inskcape and then we can see if
it fits our needs.

Carlos

[1] http://inkscape.org/
[2] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/

Does Inkscape produce large files? I am asking because we already have
a very nice poster [4], translated to several languages, which weights
about 9MB for each language. Since it needs to be updated for every
GRASS stable release, Martin proposed to rewrite it in LaTeX to share
at least the graphics. If you could rewrite it for one language, I can
use the LaTeX layout and catch up with other languages.

--
Prof. Carlos Henrique Grohmann - Geologist D.Sc.
Institute of Geosciences - Univ. of São Paulo, Brazil
http://www.igc.usp.br/pessoais/guano
http://lattes.cnpq.br/5846052449613692
Linux User #89721
________________
Can’t stop the signal.

Hi,

I am just commenting on the software.

Inkscape is a vector graphics editor based on SVG (for single pages
currently), similar to Illustrator or CorelDraw (although those may also
support multipage documents).

Inkscape, does not, per se produce large files if you stay with text and
vector graphics. The files can only get large if you embed a lot of raster
graphics. Embedding raster files can result in large files.

Scribus is more a DTP software than a graphics editor, similar to InDesign.

LaTeX is an entirely different beast with it's own strengths, best suited
for writing scientific papers and articles. I don't think it is very well
suited to design posters.

For posters, flyers, clipart and vector graphics I would go with Inkscape,
for multipage brochures I would go with Scribus and for manuals I would go
with LaTeX.

Btw: Inkscape can be used to produce and edit vector graphics that can
later be embedded in Scribus (as SVG) and in LaTeX (I think best as PDF or
PNG, or maybe also SVG in more recent versions).

Andreas

On Sun, October 24, 2010 12:35 pm, Milena Nowotarska wrote:

Hi Carlos, Micha et al.

Anyone who has a vision of a new catchy GRASS brochure, flayer or even
video commercial [1] is kindly asked to stood up and join the GRASS
Promotion Team [2].
We just gained a new contributor who is willing to proofread english
and german documents, welcome Daniel!
All the existing promotion materials are listed on the appropriate
wiki page [3].

Carlos Grohmann wrote:

I'm in, am I am comfortable with LaTeX, although maybe we could think
on using some illustration program, like Inkscape to make the poster
and folders.

Does Inkscape produce large files? I am asking because we already have
a very nice poster [4], translated to several languages, which weights
about 9MB for each language. Since it needs to be updated for every
GRASS stable release, Martin proposed to rewrite it in LaTeX to share
at least the graphics. If you could rewrite it for one language, I can
use the LaTeX layout and catch up with other languages.

I think the software we will use for promotional materials is to be
discussed. For sure LaTeX will be the lightest and good to deal with
localization but it will not gain many contributors. For smaller
materials than the poster we might use other solutions.
Chip has proposed Scribus [5]. Since my knowledge of Scribus is that
it exists, I am going to read & try and waiting for your opinions.

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass_movie_CERL_1987/
[2] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_promotion_team
[3] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material
[4] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material#GRASS_Poster
[5] http://www.scribus.net/

Micha Silver wrote:

Hello Milena:
Maybe it's time for an article in the OSGeo Journal focusing on GRASS
for
Windows users?

Good idea, I am thinking about that and actually I am writing
something in Polish now. Some of the ideas might be true for the whole
world, too. Would you mind to co-author?

Best,
Milena
--
Milena Nowotarska
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Milena_Nowotarska
http://quantum-gis.pl/ || http://grass-gis.pl/
http://www.qgis.org/wiki/4._QGIS_Hackfest_in_Wroclaw_2010
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http://www.svgopen.org/

Hello all

I made a version of the GRASS poster in Inkscape. I tweaked a little
bit the layout
(just changed the position of some parts) and included Daniel's
changes in English.

Since the zip file with the svg (14Mb) and the pdf (10Mb) is a bit
big, I put in here:

http://www.igc.usp.br/pessoais/guano/temp/grass_poster_A0_inkscape_svg_pdf.zip

See what you think.

best

Carlos

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 05:49, Andreas Neumann <a.neumann@carto.net> wrote:

Hi,

I am just commenting on the software.

Inkscape is a vector graphics editor based on SVG (for single pages
currently), similar to Illustrator or CorelDraw (although those may also
support multipage documents).

Inkscape, does not, per se produce large files if you stay with text and
vector graphics. The files can only get large if you embed a lot of raster
graphics. Embedding raster files can result in large files.

Scribus is more a DTP software than a graphics editor, similar to InDesign.

LaTeX is an entirely different beast with it's own strengths, best suited
for writing scientific papers and articles. I don't think it is very well
suited to design posters.

For posters, flyers, clipart and vector graphics I would go with Inkscape,
for multipage brochures I would go with Scribus and for manuals I would go
with LaTeX.

Btw: Inkscape can be used to produce and edit vector graphics that can
later be embedded in Scribus (as SVG) and in LaTeX (I think best as PDF or
PNG, or maybe also SVG in more recent versions).

Andreas

On Sun, October 24, 2010 12:35 pm, Milena Nowotarska wrote:

Hi Carlos, Micha et al.

Anyone who has a vision of a new catchy GRASS brochure, flayer or even
video commercial [1] is kindly asked to stood up and join the GRASS
Promotion Team [2].
We just gained a new contributor who is willing to proofread english
and german documents, welcome Daniel!
All the existing promotion materials are listed on the appropriate
wiki page [3].

Carlos Grohmann wrote:

I'm in, am I am comfortable with LaTeX, although maybe we could think
on using some illustration program, like Inkscape to make the poster
and folders.

Does Inkscape produce large files? I am asking because we already have
a very nice poster [4], translated to several languages, which weights
about 9MB for each language. Since it needs to be updated for every
GRASS stable release, Martin proposed to rewrite it in LaTeX to share
at least the graphics. If you could rewrite it for one language, I can
use the LaTeX layout and catch up with other languages.

I think the software we will use for promotional materials is to be
discussed. For sure LaTeX will be the lightest and good to deal with
localization but it will not gain many contributors. For smaller
materials than the poster we might use other solutions.
Chip has proposed Scribus [5]. Since my knowledge of Scribus is that
it exists, I am going to read & try and waiting for your opinions.

[1] http://grass.osgeo.org/grass_movie_CERL_1987/
[2] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_promotion_team
[3] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material
[4] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Promotional_material#GRASS_Poster
[5] http://www.scribus.net/

Micha Silver wrote:

Hello Milena:
Maybe it's time for an article in the OSGeo Journal focusing on GRASS
for
Windows users?

Good idea, I am thinking about that and actually I am writing
something in Polish now. Some of the ideas might be true for the whole
world, too. Would you mind to co-author?

Best,
Milena
--
Milena Nowotarska
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Milena_Nowotarska
http://quantum-gis.pl/ || http://grass-gis.pl/
http://www.qgis.org/wiki/4._QGIS_Hackfest_in_Wroclaw_2010
_______________________________________________
grass-user mailing list
grass-user@lists.osgeo.org
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/grass-user

--
Andreas Neumann
http://www.carto.net/neumann/
http://www.svgopen.org/

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Institute of Geosciences - Univ. of São Paulo, Brazil
http://www.igc.usp.br/pessoais/guano
http://lattes.cnpq.br/5846052449613692
Linux User #89721
________________
Can’t stop the signal.