This will be useful--especially if I teach another GRASS-based GIS class
next year. Thanks for the efforts.
Michael
__________________________________________
Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics and Complexity
Arizona State University
I agree, a dedicated site for teaching open source GIS would
be the best idea, since there are so many components involved
here: GRASS, QGIS, R, PostgreSQL, ParaView, ...
I have attached a draft text about GRASS and QGIS for archaeologists.
It also contains a general introduction to GIS concepts and file
formats.
I don't know how the various people who run these sites feel about it :),
but natural homes for Open-GIS-Edu documentation, video tutorials,
presentaions, PDFs, etc. could be:
If large video files etc are to be uploaded, access must be restricted
to known folks/caretakers in a CVS or SVN (or similar) system and hosts
have to be generous enough to serve the bandwidth.
I think the GRASS wiki is a fine place to collect links, text documents
and small still images until such time something more formal is set up.
regards,
Hamish
Otto Dassau wrote:
But I do not have the time or resource to set up an appropriate
website and administer this.
The GRASS wiki site is a perfect place for this development.
(can it serve PDF, presentation attachments?)
no, currently it doesn't support uploads, documents (pdf, images,
...) >> have to be stored somewhere else.
create a quasi-liberal access area in gforce GRASS svn? or better,
create a new project on gforge for "open_gis_edu" or similar. http://wald.intevation.org/projects/grass/
Thats a great idea.
Can we use this place to put video tutorials online?
I just created a very simple gui feature demo with grass63
to encourage all users and dev's to create video tutorials.
we could add another topic "GRASS education" to the GRASS wiki and start
collecting. I am not sure, where this topic should be placed (on top in the
navigation menue or community or documentation?)
I would propose to add it to community area.
what do you think?
regards,
Otto
> I don't know how the various people who run these sites feel about it :),
> but natural homes for Open-GIS-Edu documentation, video tutorials,
> presentaions, PDFs, etc. could be:
>
> OSGeo Library
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Library
> https://visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList
>
> A new open_gis_edu project on Intevation's Gforge server?
> http://wald.intevation.org/
>
> A new open_gis_edu area at freegis.org? (again hosted by Intevation)
> http://freegis.org/database/index_html?cat=3&full=n&order=i
>
> If large video files etc are to be uploaded, access must be restricted
> to known folks/caretakers in a CVS or SVN (or similar) system and hosts
> have to be generous enough to serve the bandwidth.
>
> I think the GRASS wiki is a fine place to collect links, text documents
> and small still images until such time something more formal is set up.
>
>
>
> regards,
> Hamish
Am Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2006 08:36 schrieb Otto Dassau:
Hi,
[...]
we could add another topic "GRASS education" to the GRASS wiki and start
collecting. I am not sure, where this topic should be placed (on top in the
navigation menue or community or documentation?)
I would propose to add it to community area.
what do you think?
Good idea. I like to see this as a separate entry inside the navigation. This
thread contains lots of usefull informtation which should definetly saved
somewhere!
Cheers
Stephan
regards,
Otto
> > I don't know how the various people who run these sites feel about it
> > :), but natural homes for Open-GIS-Edu documentation, video tutorials,
> > presentaions, PDFs, etc. could be:
> >
> > OSGeo Library
> > http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Library
> > https://visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList
> >
> > A new open_gis_edu project on Intevation's Gforge server?
> > http://wald.intevation.org/
> >
> > A new open_gis_edu area at freegis.org? (again hosted by Intevation)
> > http://freegis.org/database/index_html?cat=3&full=n&order=i
> >
> > If large video files etc are to be uploaded, access must be restricted
> > to known folks/caretakers in a CVS or SVN (or similar) system and hosts
> > have to be generous enough to serve the bandwidth.
> >
> > I think the GRASS wiki is a fine place to collect links, text documents
> > and small still images until such time something more formal is set up.
> >
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > Hamish
> we could add another topic "GRASS education" to the GRASS wiki and
> start collecting. I am not sure, where this topic should be placed
> (on top in the navigation menue or community or documentation?)
>
> I would propose to add it to community area.
>
> what do you think?
Stephan wrote:
Good idea. I like to see this as a separate entry inside the
navigation. This thread contains lots of usefull informtation which
should definetly saved somewhere!
A good place to start, but we still have two problems:
wrt GRASS-centric:
1) [minor] this isn't neccessarily GRASS specific. QGIS, GMT, Projection
tutorials, etc. Anything geospatial, educational, &/or OSS-Geo.
wrt "start collecting":
2) [major] people want to upload course material including PDFs,
powerpoint presentations, Flash tutorial movies, course material,
lecture notes..
The Wiki only supports text + simple graphics files. Upload of large
files must be password controlled and have the blessing of the server
host.
That's why I would opt for a decicated OSS GIS teaching site,
maybe as part of the freegis.org domain.
Hamish wrote:
Otto wrote:
we could add another topic "GRASS education" to the GRASS wiki and
start collecting. I am not sure, where this topic should be placed
(on top in the navigation menue or community or documentation?)
I would propose to add it to community area.
what do you think?
Stephan wrote:
Good idea. I like to see this as a separate entry inside the
navigation. This thread contains lots of usefull informtation which
should definetly saved somewhere!
A good place to start, but we still have two problems:
wrt GRASS-centric:
1) [minor] this isn't neccessarily GRASS specific. QGIS, GMT, Projection
tutorials, etc. Anything geospatial, educational, &/or OSS-Geo.
wrt "start collecting":
2) [major] people want to upload course material including PDFs,
powerpoint presentations, Flash tutorial movies, course material,
lecture notes.. The Wiki only supports text + simple graphics files. Upload of large
files must be password controlled and have the blessing of the server
host.
--
Benjamin Ducke, M.A.
Archäoinformatik
(Archaeoinformation Science)
Institut für Ur- und Frühgeschichte
(Inst. of Prehistoric and Historic Archaeology)
Christian-Albrechts-Universität zu Kiel
Johanna-Mestorf-Straße 2-6
D 24098 Kiel
Germany
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 21:03:10 +1300
Hamish <hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
Otto wrote:
> > we could add another topic "GRASS education" to the GRASS wiki and
> > start collecting. I am not sure, where this topic should be placed
> > (on top in the navigation menue or community or documentation?)
> >
> > I would propose to add it to community area.
> >
> > what do you think?
Stephan wrote:
> Good idea. I like to see this as a separate entry inside the
> navigation. This thread contains lots of usefull informtation which
> should definetly saved somewhere!
A good place to start, but we still have two problems:
wrt GRASS-centric:
1) [minor] this isn't neccessarily GRASS specific. QGIS, GMT, Projection
tutorials, etc. Anything geospatial, educational, &/or OSS-Geo.
right, but from the thread I got the impression, that it would make sense to
start it within each project first and then move it (or at least common topics
and material) to OSGEO, FreeGIS or another site, if they want it.
wrt "start collecting":
2) [major] people want to upload course material including PDFs,
powerpoint presentations, Flash tutorial movies, course material,
lecture notes..
The Wiki only supports text + simple graphics files. Upload of large
files must be password controlled and have the blessing of the server
host.
yes, we need another host. The wiki isn't working here. What
about FreeGIS or OSGeo? Are they interested and would they offer an upload area
and maybe website? This would be the best solution from the start.
Michael
__________________________________________
Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University
From: Otto Dassau <otto.dassau@gmx.de>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:36:56 +0200
To: Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu>
Cc: Hamish <hamish_nospam@yahoo.com>, <grassuser@grass.itc.it>, Isaac Ullah
<isaac.ullah@asu.edu>
Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Re: [Qgis-user] Basic GIS course ideas
Hi,
[...]
we could add another topic "GRASS education" to the GRASS wiki and start
collecting. I am not sure, where this topic should be placed (on top in the
navigation menue or community or documentation?)
I would propose to add it to community area.
what do you think?
regards,
Otto
I don't know how the various people who run these sites feel about it :),
but natural homes for Open-GIS-Edu documentation, video tutorials,
presentaions, PDFs, etc. could be:
If large video files etc are to be uploaded, access must be restricted
to known folks/caretakers in a CVS or SVN (or similar) system and hosts
have to be generous enough to serve the bandwidth.
I think the GRASS wiki is a fine place to collect links, text documents
and small still images until such time something more formal is set up.
please add missing arguments from the mails and/or delete/correct what's already
there and contribute your ideas and concepts. I guess I missed a lot within this
thread.
regards,
Otto
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:33:24 -0700
Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu> wrote:
Sounds good to me.
Michael
__________________________________________
Michael Barton, Professor of Anthropology
School of Human Evolution & Social Change
Center for Social Dynamics & Complexity
Arizona State University
> From: Otto Dassau <otto.dassau@gmx.de>
> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:36:56 +0200
> To: Michael Barton <michael.barton@asu.edu>
> Cc: Hamish <hamish_nospam@yahoo.com>, <grassuser@grass.itc.it>, Isaac Ullah
> <isaac.ullah@asu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] Re: [Qgis-user] Basic GIS course ideas
>
> Hi,
>
> [...]
>
> we could add another topic "GRASS education" to the GRASS wiki and start
> collecting. I am not sure, where this topic should be placed (on top in the
> navigation menue or community or documentation?)
>
> I would propose to add it to community area.
>
> what do you think?
>
> regards,
> Otto
>
>>> I don't know how the various people who run these sites feel about it :),
>>> but natural homes for Open-GIS-Edu documentation, video tutorials,
>>> presentaions, PDFs, etc. could be:
>>>
>>> OSGeo Library
>>> http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Library
>>> https://visibilitycommittee.osgeo.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList
>>>
>>> A new open_gis_edu project on Intevation's Gforge server?
>>> http://wald.intevation.org/
>>>
>>> A new open_gis_edu area at freegis.org? (again hosted by Intevation)
>>> http://freegis.org/database/index_html?cat=3&full=n&order=i
>>>
>>> If large video files etc are to be uploaded, access must be restricted
>>> to known folks/caretakers in a CVS or SVN (or similar) system and hosts
>>> have to be generous enough to serve the bandwidth.
>>>
>>> I think the GRASS wiki is a fine place to collect links, text documents
>>> and small still images until such time something more formal is set up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> regards,
>>> Hamish
>