I have used grass gis 6.4 and I am happy with this version.
But I was wondering which are the advantages or disadvantages to move
or not grass 7.0
Any thoughts are very welcome.
cheers
--
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
I have used grass gis 6.4 and I am happy with this version.
But I was wondering which are the advantages or disadvantages to move
or not grass 7.0
Any thoughts are very welcome.
cheers
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or
improved/fixed ones), including the powerful contribution of python.
But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how stable are this
version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch
between them?
By the way, a grass GIS DB/Mapset can be used for both versions ?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Milton Cezar Ribeiro <
miltinho.astronauta@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all
I have used grass gis 6.4 and I am happy with this version.
But I was wondering which are the advantages or disadvantages to move
or not grass 7.0
Any thoughts are very welcome.
cheers
--
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
--
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or
improved/fixed ones), including the powerful contribution of python.
But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how stable are this
version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch
between them?
By the way, a grass GIS DB/Mapset can be used for both versions ?
I have used grass gis 6.4 and I am happy with this version.
But I was wondering which are the advantages or disadvantages to move
or not grass 7.0
Any thoughts are very welcome.
cheers
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
–
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
I am using GRASS 7.0 most of the time, only switching to 6.4 when I want to use it from QGIS as I don’t manage to get QGIS to work with GRASS 7.0 (that will need some work on the gdal-grass plugin I think). Switching is no problem, it requires rebuilding the topology from one to the other version, but that is easy and quick.
It is a development version, so you always run the risk something get’s broken. To minimize the risk, I am always keeping a backup of the latest build that worked well so I can always switch back to that build if something is not working after an update.
All in all, it has been very stable for me, with only a few issues after updates. These were always solved quickly and I never had to revert to a previous build. Your luck may vary of course, also depending on your operating system (I am working on Ubuntu), so I would recommend running the two version, trying out how it works for you.
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or
improved/fixed ones), including the powerful contribution of python.
But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how stable are this
version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch
between them?
By the way, a grass GIS DB/Mapset can be used for both versions ?
I have used grass gis 6.4 and I am happy with this version.
But I was wondering which are the advantages or disadvantages to move
or not grass 7.0
Any thoughts are very welcome.
cheers
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
–
Miltinho - mcr@rc.unesp.br
Laboratório de Ecologia Espacial e Conservação - LEEC
Depto de Ecologia - UNESP - Rio Claro
Av. 24A, 1515- Bela Vista
13506-900 Rio Claro, SP, Brasil
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 03:59:49PM -0200, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
Thanks Rashad,
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or
improved/fixed ones), including the powerful contribution of python.
But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how stable are this
version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch
between them?
I have seen quite a bit of bugs in grass 7, but the GRASS developpers
are very quick to fix a correctly reported bug.
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 03:59:49PM -0200, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
Thanks Rashad,
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or
improved/fixed ones), including the powerful contribution of python.
But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how stable are this
version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch
between them?
I have seen quite a bit of bugs in grass 7, but the GRASS developpers
are very quick to fix a correctly reported bug.
Some of the bugs reported by you were really helpful to improve new
functionality in GRASS 7. GRASS developers actually depend on this
kind of feedback, and the more power-users use GRASS 7 and report any
bugs, the better. In general, I estimate that GRASS 7 (on the command
line) is as robust, but if in doubt faster and less resource intensive
than GRASS 6.
Some of the bugs reported by you apply to GRASS 6 only, are fixed in
GRASS 7 and can not be backported to GRASS 6 because the required
changes would break GRASS 6 compatibility.
Other bugs that were present in GRASS 6 + 7 are only fixed in GRASS 7
and may or may not be backported to GRASS 6.
Obviously I am advocating the use of GRASS 7, but for production work
I would, like Paolo, recommend to have GRASS 6 on the side.
As a GRASS developer, I personally use only GRASS 7 for production work.
Il 10/01/2013 19:56, Paulo van Breugel ha scritto:
Hi Milton
I am using GRASS 7.0 most of the time, only switching to 6.4 when I want to use it
from QGIS as I don't manage to get QGIS to work with GRASS 7.0 (that will need some
work on the gdal-grass plugin I think).
I do not think it is much work to update the plugin to use grass7; it would be a nice
addition: any volunteer or supporter?
All the best.
--
Paolo Cavallini - Faunalia
www.faunalia.eu
Full contact details at www.faunalia.eu/pc
Nuovi corsi QGIS e PostGIS: http://www.faunalia.it/calendario
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 03:59:49PM -0200, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
Thanks Rashad,
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or improved/fixed ones), including
the powerful contribution of python. But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how
stable are this version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch between
them?
I have seen quite a bit of bugs in grass 7, but the GRASS developpers are very quick to fix a
correctly reported bug.
Some of the bugs reported by you were really helpful to improve new functionality in GRASS 7.
GRASS developers actually depend on this kind of feedback, and the more power-users use GRASS 7
and report any bugs, the better. In general, I estimate that GRASS 7 (on the command line) is
as robust, but if in doubt faster and less resource intensive than GRASS 6.
Some of the bugs reported by you apply to GRASS 6 only, are fixed in GRASS 7 and can not be
backported to GRASS 6 because the required changes would break GRASS 6 compatibility.
Other bugs that were present in GRASS 6 + 7 are only fixed in GRASS 7 and may or may not be
backported to GRASS 6.
Obviously I am advocating the use of GRASS 7, but for production work I would, like Paolo,
recommend to have GRASS 6 on the side.
Following the discussion, I would like to install GRASS 7 weekly snapshot. I relized the "Binary"
link (http://grass.osgeo.org/download/software/) but it points back to the Linux Download page,
but I could not find any binaries there for GRASS 7? Maybe this link should be removed?
Just wondering, but not a problem, as I am going to install from source anyway.
Thanks,
Rainer
As a GRASS developer, I personally use only GRASS 7 for production work.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> wrote:
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On 10/01/13 22:28, Markus Metz wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 03:59:49PM -0200, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
Thanks Rashad,
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or improved/fixed ones), including
the powerful contribution of python. But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how
stable are this version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch between
them?
I have seen quite a bit of bugs in grass 7, but the GRASS developpers are very quick to fix a
correctly reported bug.
Some of the bugs reported by you were really helpful to improve new functionality in GRASS 7.
GRASS developers actually depend on this kind of feedback, and the more power-users use GRASS 7
and report any bugs, the better. In general, I estimate that GRASS 7 (on the command line) is
as robust, but if in doubt faster and less resource intensive than GRASS 6.
Some of the bugs reported by you apply to GRASS 6 only, are fixed in GRASS 7 and can not be
backported to GRASS 6 because the required changes would break GRASS 6 compatibility.
Other bugs that were present in GRASS 6 + 7 are only fixed in GRASS 7 and may or may not be
backported to GRASS 6.
Obviously I am advocating the use of GRASS 7, but for production work I would, like Paolo,
recommend to have GRASS 6 on the side.
Following the discussion, I would like to install GRASS 7 weekly snapshot. I relized the "Binary"
link (http://grass.osgeo.org/download/software/) but it points back to the Linux Download page,
but I could not find any binaries there for GRASS 7? Maybe this link should be removed?
Hello,
as a (not so active) GRASS developer, I also use 7 for almost all my
daily needs. I agree about all nice things of using 7 previously
stated, still I also must give a fat warning - some code in 7 is not
yet tested enough. There are new bugs present in 7 only too.
Here is (infamous) example of it - output result is shifted by n
cells.[1] Issue was present only in 7 in not so well tested new code.
Bugs do happen and GRASS 7 contains new bugs yet unknown. Anyone is
welcome to use GRASS 7, but remember to check outputs and be ready to
report back issues.
2013/1/10 Markus Metz <markus.metz.giswork@gmail.com>:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 03:59:49PM -0200, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
Thanks Rashad,
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or
improved/fixed ones), including the powerful contribution of python.
But I would like to hear from grass7 users about how stable are this
version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we need to switch
between them?
I have seen quite a bit of bugs in grass 7, but the GRASS developpers
are very quick to fix a correctly reported bug.
Some of the bugs reported by you were really helpful to improve new
functionality in GRASS 7. GRASS developers actually depend on this
kind of feedback, and the more power-users use GRASS 7 and report any
bugs, the better. In general, I estimate that GRASS 7 (on the command
line) is as robust, but if in doubt faster and less resource intensive
than GRASS 6.
Some of the bugs reported by you apply to GRASS 6 only, are fixed in
GRASS 7 and can not be backported to GRASS 6 because the required
changes would break GRASS 6 compatibility.
Other bugs that were present in GRASS 6 + 7 are only fixed in GRASS 7
and may or may not be backported to GRASS 6.
Obviously I am advocating the use of GRASS 7, but for production work
I would, like Paolo, recommend to have GRASS 6 on the side.
As a GRASS developer, I personally use only GRASS 7 for production work.
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> wrote: On 10/01/13 22:28,
Markus Metz wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Patrice Dumas <pertusus@free.fr> wrote:
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 03:59:49PM -0200, Milton Cezar Ribeiro wrote:
Thanks Rashad,
I understand that grass 7 have a lot of new features (or improved/fixed ones),
including the powerful contribution of python. But I would like to hear from grass7
users about how stable are this version. Anyone survive using only grass7 our we
need to switch between them?
I have seen quite a bit of bugs in grass 7, but the GRASS developpers are very quick to
fix a correctly reported bug.
Some of the bugs reported by you were really helpful to improve new functionality in
GRASS 7. GRASS developers actually depend on this kind of feedback, and the more
power-users use GRASS 7 and report any bugs, the better. In general, I estimate that
GRASS 7 (on the command line) is as robust, but if in doubt faster and less resource
intensive than GRASS 6.
Some of the bugs reported by you apply to GRASS 6 only, are fixed in GRASS 7 and can not
be backported to GRASS 6 because the required changes would break GRASS 6 compatibility.
Other bugs that were present in GRASS 6 + 7 are only fixed in GRASS 7 and may or may not
be backported to GRASS 6.
Obviously I am advocating the use of GRASS 7, but for production work I would, like
Paolo, recommend to have GRASS 6 on the side.
Following the discussion, I would like to install GRASS 7 weekly snapshot. I relized the
"Binary" link (http://grass.osgeo.org/download/software/) but it points back to the Linux
Download page, but I could not find any binaries there for GRASS 7? Maybe this link should be
removed?
I have used grass gis 6.4 and I am happy with this version.
But I was wondering which are the advantages or disadvantages to move
or not grass 7.0
Any thoughts are very welcome.
I use both, grass64 and grass70 -- still, for production I am attached to
grass64. I use(d) grass70 for some tasks which, indeed run faster (one recent
example was v.to.rast -- while it did not complete on grass64, it did so in
grass70).
Seeing so many positive feebacks concerning grass70, I'll switch probably soon
to it. I have, however, one concern:
is it possible to "revert" a grass70 vector back to a grass64 vector, just in
case this is required, for whatsoever may be the reason?
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> wrote:
...
Following the discussion, I would like to install GRASS 7 weekly snapshot. I relized the "Binary"
link (http://grass.osgeo.org/download/software/) but it points back to the Linux Download page,
but I could not find any binaries there for GRASS 7? Maybe this link should be removed?
Just wondering, but not a problem, as I am going to install from source anyway.
In the past days I have cleaned up several of the Web pages.
I hope they are much clearer now. GRASS 7 downloads are now properly
mentioned as well.